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4:30 p.m.
Anyone know what's the newest model of HP Programmer's Calculator? One
with number system conversion and stuff like that?
Peace... Sridhar
17 Nov
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6:41 p.m.
programmers calc is the 16 c.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Duell" <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: HP Programmer's Calculators
Anyone know what's the newest model of HP Programmer's Calculator? One
with number system conversion and stuff like that?
Well, the HP48 and HP49 (and their descendants) have binary/octal/hex
numbers, boolean (bitwise) functions, shifts, rotates, etc. But the true
HP 'Programmers Calculator' is still the 16C.... Pity it's so hard to find
-tony
7:49 p.m.
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Tony Duell wrote:
Well, I'm specifically *not* looking for a graphing calculator, and
certainly I'm not looking for a 3D graphing calculator like the 48/49.
Peace... Sridhar
Anyone know
what's the newest model of HP Programmer's Calculator?
One with number system conversion and stuff like that?
Well, the HP48 and HP49 (and their descendants) have binary/octal/hex
numbers, boolean (bitwise) functions, shifts, rotates, etc. But the true
HP 'Programmers Calculator' is still the 16C.... Pity it's so hard to
find 
18 Nov
18 Nov
2:01 a.m.
At 01:49 AM 11/18/03 -0500, you wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Tony Duell wrote:
Well, I'm specifically *not* looking for a graphing calculator, and
certainly I'm not looking for a 3D graphing calculator like the 48/49.
You can use the HP-41 calculators and write your own conversions or some
of the optional ROMs contain number conversions. I THINK the Advantage ROM
contained some, the HP-IL Developement ROM contains some, I believe the
Extended IO ROM contained some. It's too bad no one put a good collection
of them in one ROM. The 16C is still the best programmers calculator that
HP ever made and probably the best anyone ever made.
Joe
Anyone
know what's the newest model of HP Programmer's Calculator?
One with number system conversion and stuff like that?
Well, the HP48 and HP49 (and their descendants) have binary/octal/hex
numbers, boolean (bitwise) functions, shifts, rotates, etc. But the true
HP 'Programmers Calculator' is still the 16C.... Pity it's so hard to
find 
5:09 a.m.
I agree, I use mine several times a week. It's a shame that they are so hard
to find - I'd buy another in a flash.... It is a wonder that no one else has
seen a market for a programmers calculator....
Lyle
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:01, Joe wrote:
---snip---snip---
The 16C is still the best programmers calculator that
HP ever made and probably the best anyone ever made.
Joe
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
Mountain View, CA 94040
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
8:10 a.m.
New subject: Programmer's Calculators
If you aren't obsessed with HP, and are looking for a calculator for
relatively trivial tasks encountered while PROGRAMMING, (not general
scientific needs), then the TI Programmer is probably the best suited
for the task.
There were two models of it:
The first one had LED display, and hardly any battery life.
The second one had LCD display, with incredibly long battery life,
and very short keyboard life.
But, the most CONVENIENT one of all, if your presbyopia hasn't gotten
too bad, is the Casio CFX-40 and CFX-400 ("scientific calculator"
wrist watch)
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
9:49 a.m.
New subject: Programmer's Calculators
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Fred Cisin wrote:
If you aren't obsessed with HP, and are looking
for a calculator for
relatively trivial tasks encountered while PROGRAMMING, (not general
scientific needs), then the TI Programmer is probably the best suited
for the task.
There were two models of it:
The first one had LED display, and hardly any battery life.
The second one had LCD display, with incredibly long battery life,
and very short keyboard life.
Other people have said that about the battery life on the LED model but the
one I have on my desk has had the same 9V battery for more than a year, and is
still working fine. It does power-off fairly quickly if left idle. I normally
use it only a couple of times a day but I have no complaints about battery
life...
But, the most CONVENIENT one of all, if your presbyopia hasn't gotten
too bad, is the Casio CFX-40 and CFX-400 ("scientific calculator"
wrist watch)
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
12:45 p.m.
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4:04 a.m.
The elCheapo HP 6s (ca. 1999. $11 IIRC) has decimal - binary
- hex - oct casts in it also 'and','or','xor','not'. No
self programming
feature. Next time I strike it rich I'm going to eBay for a 16c
though. I had my 41C programmed to do these things but
it could be slow, esp. using alpha to display hex strings.
John A.
6:04 a.m.
In message <002a01c3ade5$48eb44c0$8a0101ac@ibm23xhr06>
"John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com> wrote:
Next time I strike it rich I'm going to eBay for a
16c
though.
I think I'll probably end up buying a Texas Instruments programmable
calculator - the TI-83 Plus Silver Edition looks pretty neat. Then there's
the coolness factor - hook it up to a computer, hack together a few addons
and upload them to the '83's internal memory. Has anyone ever used a TI-83?
Are they any good, i.e. can they do base-conversion as standard?
Later.
--
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philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, Ethernet (Acorn AEH62),
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He's DEAD, Jim. You get the Tricorder, I'll get his wallet!
12:51 p.m.
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7:38 p.m.
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Tony Duell wrote:
Problem is, TI (and Casio, and ...) calculators are not RPN. Having got
used to RPN and RPL machines, I find it a serious strain to use anything
else (RPN is _so_ logical...)
You can reprogram a TI-92+ or TI-89 to do RPN. It's actually pretty easy.
Peace... Sridhar
Next time I strike it rich I'm going to eBay for a
16c though.
I think I'll probably end up buying a Texas Instruments
programmable
calculator - the TI-83 Plus Silver Edition looks pretty neat. Then
there's
12:33 p.m.
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7:39 p.m.
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Tony Duell wrote:
Why not? You don't have to use the graphing functions, and the fact that
the machine displays several stack levels (4 on the 48, 5 on the 49) is
a definite bonus.
One reason only: physical size.
Peace... Sridhar
Well, the HP48 and HP49 (and their descendants) have
binary/octal/hex
numbers, boolean (bitwise) functions, shifts, rotates, etc. But the true
HP 'Programmers Calculator' is still the 16C.... Pity it's so hard to
find
Well, I'm specifically *not* looking for a graphing calculator, and 
12:46 a.m.
At 04:54 AM 11/18/03 +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
numbers, boolean (bitwise) functions, shifts, rotates,
etc. But the true
HP 'Programmers Calculator' is still the 16C.... Pity it's so hard to find
-tony
Not if you look in my left hand desk drawer. ;) Its still about the only
calculator I use.
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