30 Apr
2018
30 Apr
'18
7:54 p.m.
So someone mentioned this to me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222941705847
Now, the crazy thing is that I religously do a search for "PDP-11" for newly
listed items on eBait at least once a day - and this never showed up! I just
did a search for sold "PDP-11" items, and it's not showing up there either
-
although a search for sold "PDP-11 parts" turns it up!
Anyone have any idea why it didn't turn up? That is a regular '-', not an
mdash or anything, and those are 1's, not lower-case l's. And it does show up
in the search for "PDP-11 parts". So I can only conclude that somehow
eBait's
search function blew out somehow?
Anyway, someone got a total steal: at least _3_ H960's, a TU10, and an -11/45
(can't tell if there's an FP11) - and who knows what else is hidden!
Noel
30 Apr
30 Apr
8:20 p.m.
I search only for "PDP" (not -11) but I filter on category
"Computers/tablets & Networking." It might not have shown up in your search
if you searching in "Vintage Computing" category. This one looks like it
wasn't listed there
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Subject: eBay search fail
So someone mentioned this to me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222941705847
Now, the crazy thing is that I religously do a search for "PDP-11" for newly
listed items on eBait at least once a day - and this never showed up! I just did a search
for sold "PDP-11" items, and it's not showing up there either - although a
search for sold "PDP-11 parts" turns it up!
Anyone have any idea why it didn't turn up? That is a regular '-', not an
mdash or anything, and those are 1's, not lower-case l's. And it does show up in
the search for "PDP-11 parts". So I can only conclude that somehow eBait's
search function blew out somehow?
Anyway, someone got a total steal: at least _3_ H960's, a TU10, and an -11/45
(can't tell if there's an FP11) - and who knows what else is hidden!
Noel
8:41 p.m.
I think "crap on a cracker" is fitting expression here. A few hours drive
from me too. Wow. Hope it found a good home.
b
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:20 PM, W2HX via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
I search only for "PDP" (not -11) but I
filter on category
"Computers/tablets & Networking." It might not have shown up in your
search
if you searching in "Vintage Computing" category. This one looks like it
wasn't listed there
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel
Chiappa via cctalk
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:55 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Cc: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: eBay search fail
So someone mentioned this to me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222941705847
Now, the crazy thing is that I religously do a search for "PDP-11" for
newly listed items on eBait at least once a day - and this never showed up!
I just did a search for sold "PDP-11" items, and it's not showing up there
either - although a search for sold "PDP-11 parts" turns it up!
Anyone have any idea why it didn't turn up? That is a regular '-', not an
mdash or anything, and those are 1's, not lower-case l's. And it does show
up in the search for "PDP-11 parts". So I can only conclude that somehow
eBait's search function blew out somehow?
Anyway, someone got a total steal: at least _3_ H960's, a TU10, and an
-11/45 (can't tell if there's an FP11) - and who knows what else is hidden!
Noel
10 p.m.
On 2018-05-01 04:54, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
So someone mentioned this to me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222941705847
it is a "desktop system" ;-)
10:12 p.m.
So someone
mentioned this to me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222941705847
it is a "desktop system" ;-)
13 Jun
13 Jun
12:16 p.m.
Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
So someone mentioned this to me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222941705847
Now, the crazy thing is that I religously do a search for "PDP-11" for newly
listed items on eBait at least once a day - and this never showed up! I just
did a search for sold "PDP-11" items, and it's not showing up there either
-
although a search for sold "PDP-11 parts" turns it up!
Anyone have any idea why it didn't turn up? That is a regular '-', not an
mdash or anything, and those are 1's, not lower-case l's. And it does show up
in the search for "PDP-11 parts". So I can only conclude that somehow
eBait's
search function blew out somehow?
Anyway, someone got a total steal: at least _3_ H960's, a TU10, and an -11/45
(can't tell if there's an FP11) - and who knows what else is hidden!
Noel
Ebay's search engine is unusable here in europe for years now.
I don't even get te item when I do a search for "222941705847", the item
number of your link above. Maybe that's since it isn't listet for
international buyers, but you could'nt even find it to see pictures.
another thing are many chinese items that's listed for international
buyers, they simply don't get listed here. I can find them with ebay.com
and I can buy them, no problem.
My answer to this? Use Aliexpress, the Americans (Ebay) doesn't want my
money. If you don't care for your customers, anyone else will.
I do habe an ebay.com account too since I've done some businnes with us
customers years before, beu I have stopped any selling over ebay for
some years, provisions from ebay and paypal + costs to insert articles where
higer then the the income.
If you do a search for AM298* to get eome of the old AM 29xx Chipset
devices, you currently get 2 items where AM298-43 is in the description,
do a search for am29821 and you get many items.
Don't know what they want, for sure they don't want you to find items
you need...
Regards,
Holm
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12:45 p.m.
New subject: eBay search fails
Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
So someone mentioned this to me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222941705847
Now, the crazy thing is that I religously do a search for "PDP-11" for newly
listed items on eBait at least once a day - and this never showed up! I just
did a search for sold "PDP-11" items, and it's not showing up there either
-
although a search for sold "PDP-11 parts" turns it up!
Anyone have any idea why it didn't turn up? That is a regular '-', not an
mdash or anything, and those are 1's, not lower-case l's. And it does show up
in the search for "PDP-11 parts". So I can only conclude that somehow
eBait's
search function blew out somehow?
Anyway, someone got a total steal: at least _3_ H960's, a TU10, and an -11/45
(can't tell if there's an FP11) - and who knows what else is hidden!
> Ebay's search engine is unusable here in
europe for years now.
The URL works for me.
Then, to SEARCH for it, I need to go to "Advanced", and include
"completed".
It does NOT come up using "PDP-11".
BUT, it comes up with "Digital PDP-11"!
Yes, eBait's search function blows.
I have experienced a number of cases where adding an "OR" (eBay's
punctuation for that is a comma delimited list in parentheses), will
REDUCE the number of hits, which it absolutely shouldn't do.
And, I have encountered situations (like this), where an extra ANDed term
increases the number of hits.
Yes, it IS broken. You can still make it work. Most of the time. But,
several aspects of it do NOT work as they are intended to.
It also, like Amazon, will try to be "helpful", and include synonyms that
you did NOT want.
They discontinued wildcards ("comput*"), so you now have to include both
singular and plural. SOMETIMES. Sometimes it will "helpfully" match with
the other that you didn't include for you. Sometimes not.
If the bulk of the hits are in one category, it may switch from "ALL
CATEGORIES" to that category, in defiance of your request. For example, a
search for "Nextec" switches from a requested "All Categoires" to a
category of "Power Tools", cutting out numerous legitimate hits. (I have
been looking for the POLE PRUNER that was very briefly part of the Nextec
(Sears) line, and in the rare cases where there is one, it is usually NOT
in "Power Tools".)
I suspect that ONE of the problems stems from use of the same character
to mean both hyphen and minus sign, depending on apaces, other puntuation,
or context.
Could it be that when using "Digital PDP-11" or "PDP-11 parts", it is
functioning correctly, but "PDP-11" by itself is causing it to
misinterpret as a minus sign, to exclude "11". It certainly SHOULDN'T be
doing that, but that screw-up coulod account for the behavior.
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