18 Sep
2011
18 Sep
'11
11:19 p.m.
Just arrived to PLATO World, I've encountered this while lurking:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-Control-Data-CDC-PLATO-Pascal-CBE-CAI-Course…
Regards
SPc.
18 Sep
18 Sep
11:32 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:19 AM, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
Just arrived to PLATO World, I've encountered this
while lurking:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-Control-Data-CDC-PLATO-Pascal-CBE-CAI-Course…
I have purchased PLATO disks from this seller before. He is a
reliable seller, packages well and knows much of PLATO.
I might go for these disks as well, if I can figure out if I have them
already or not :) My concern is archiving - I don't have a way to
read these 8" floppies and image them. Is anyone out there (Al K?)
doing so? If so, as it is with documents, I'd defer to that party as
long as they are going to make their images/scans public.
--
jht
19 Sep
19 Sep
12:16 a.m.
Mmm... Perhaps a PC system with one 8" inch. floppy unit connected (I think
that there was some information available about this matter in
www.dbit.comor in Dave Dunfield's site).
Later, one system with DTCyber and PLATO (as you can see in www.cyber1.org).
But don't think this is the case. In the description of the item appears one
reference to MicroPLATO. And the almost unique reference that I've
encountered in the Internet is this one, in the Wikipedia article dedicated
to PLATO:
"An attempt to mass-market the PLATO system was introduced in 1980 as
Micro-PLATO, which ran the basic
TUTOR<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUTOR_%28programming_language%29>s…
on a CDC "Viking-721" terminal and various home computers. Versions
were built for the Texas Instruments
TI-99/4A<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TI-99/4A>4A>,
Atari 8-bit family <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family>, Zenith
Z-100 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-100_bus> and, later, Radio
Shack<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Shack>
TRS-80 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80> and IBM Personal
Computer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer>
"
Regards
SPc.
2011/9/19 Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com>
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-Control-Data-CDC-PLATO-Pascal-CBE-CAI-Course…
[...]
I might go for these disks as well, if I can figure out if I have them
already or not :) My concern is archiving - I don't have a way to
read these 8" floppies and image them. Is anyone out there (Al K?)
doing so? If so, as it is with documents, I'd defer to that party as
long as they are going to make their images/scans public.
12:40 a.m.
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:16 AM, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
Mmm... Perhaps a PC system with one 8" inch.
floppy unit connected (I think
that there was some information available about this matter in
www.dbit.comor in Dave Dunfield's site).
Yep, Dave's utility is indispensable. I have no idea what format
those MicroPLATO floppies may be, however. I thought I remember
either Al K or Richard had successfully imaged some.
Now someone needs to write an emulator to run MicroPLATO (or was it
called MicroTutor?)
-j
10:35 a.m.
On 9/19/11 7:20 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 19 Sep 2011 at 2:40, Jason T wrote:
yes, which also could run CP/M, as you know
I bought a 721 from the same guy, and forgot to bid on the companion
floppy unit, which he apparently now doesn't want to sell.
The 721 has a bad power supply, so I dumped the firmware and scanned
the pcb
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/terminal/721/
Yep, Dave's utility is indispensable. I have
no idea what format
those MicroPLATO floppies may be, however. I thought I remember
either Al K or Richard had successfully imaged some.
CDC 110 perhaps?
10:31 a.m.
On 9/18/11 11:32 PM, Jason T wrote:
My concern is archiving - I don't have a way to
read these 8" floppies and image them. Is anyone out there (Al K?)
doing so?
Yes. There is an issue which may be copy protection on one of the tracks.
I've imaged a few sets, and they all fail on the same track in the middle.
These 8" disks are for the stand-alone terminal (CDC 110), aren't they?
2 Oct
2 Oct
10:05 p.m.
In article <4E777C67.5060909 at bitsavers.org>,
Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> writes:
These 8" disks are for the stand-alone terminal
(CDC 110), aren't they?
Yes.
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18 Sep
18 Sep
11:46 p.m.
New subject: PLATO for C64 (was: MicroPLATO Pascal Course)
This reminds me, when I was attending UIUC in 89-93, PLATO was still in
use, and someone (not sure who) had created a PLATO emulator for the
C64. It did everything, as I recall, and connected to the PLATO system
using the UIUC dialup network (333-something, but time has erased it
from memory... You could access all of the machines
from that dialup
system) It used 1200 bps as I recall, and worked well.
Sadly, I cannot find the disk with the SW any more. I wish I could, as
I think the PLATO archivers would want a copy. I don't know if other
8-bit machines had ports of the emu.
Jim
19 Sep
19 Sep
12:04 a.m.
New subject: PLATO for C64 (was: MicroPLATO Pascal Course)
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Jim Brain <brain at jbrain.com> wrote:
This reminds me, when I was attending UIUC in 89-93,
PLATO was still in use,
and someone (not sure who) had created a PLATO emulator for the C64. ?It did
everything, as I recall, and connected to the PLATO system using the UIUC
dialup network (333-something, but time has erased it from memory... You
could access all of the machines from that dialup system) ?It used 1200 bps
as I recall, and worked well.
Sadly, I cannot find the disk with the SW any more. ?I wish I could, as I
think the PLATO archivers would want a copy. ?I don't know if other 8-bit
machines had ports of the emu.
Wow...I have never heard of this. Would love to find a copy as well.
It did exist for some 8-bit systems, as I have the PLATO cartridge for
the Atari 400/800 series. Have never tried it out :( I'd bet that if
one had the necessary serial adapters on the Atari, one could hook up
to Cyber1 with it. That would be a real hoot.
Way cool that you were at UIUC at the same time I (briefly) was. I
dialed into the dorms (remember what the terminal servers were named
after?) with my Amiga 500. Somewhere in the vast stacks, I have the
"Computing at UIUC" book given out to students from the CSO. It
probably lists those dial-in numbers, along with many artifacts of
early-90s computing. I'll scan it if I ever find it...
--
jht
12:20 a.m.
New subject: PLATO for C64 (was: MicroPLATO Pascal Course)
Interesting. In the original thread of this message I pasted this excerpt
from the Wikipedia articla about PLATO:
"An attempt to mass-market the PLATO system was introduced in 1980 as
Micro-PLATO, which ran the basic
TUTOR<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUTOR_%28programming_language%29>s…
on a CDC "Viking-721" terminal and various home computers. Versions
were built for the Texas Instruments
TI-99/4A<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TI-99/4A>4A>,
Atari 8-bit family <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family>, Zenith
Z-100 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-100_bus> and, later, Radio
Shack<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Shack>
TRS-80 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80> and IBM Personal
Computer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer>
"
Would you like to expand this paragraph ? If you are sure about this matter,
I think that would be a good idea to indicate it there. Or some kind of
reference.
Regards
SPc.
2011/9/19 Jim Brain <brain at jbrain.com>
This reminds me, when I was attending UIUC in 89-93,
PLATO was still in
use, and someone (not sure who) had created a PLATO emulator for the C64.
It did everything, as I recall, and connected to the PLATO system using the
UIUC dialup network (333-something, but time has erased it from memory...
You could access all of the machines from that dialup system) It used 1200
bps as I recall, and worked well.
Sadly, I cannot find the disk with the SW any more. I wish I could, as I
think the PLATO archivers would want a copy. I don't know if other 8-bit
machines had ports of the emu.
Jim
4:21 p.m.
New subject: PLATO for C64
On 9/19/2011 2:20 AM, SPC wrote:
Interesting. In the original thread of this message I
pasted this excerpt
from the Wikipedia articla about PLATO:
"An attempt to mass-market the PLATO system was introduced in 1980 as
Micro-PLATO, which ran the basic
TUTOR<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUTOR_%28programming_language%29>s…
on a CDC "Viking-721" terminal and various home computers. Versions
were built for the Texas Instruments
TI-99/4A<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TI-99/4A>4A>,
Atari 8-bit family<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family>ly>, Zenith
Z-100<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-100_bus> and, later, Radio
Shack<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Shack>
TRS-80<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80> and IBM Personal
Computer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer>
"
Would you like to expand this paragraph ? If you are sure about this matter,
I think that would be a good idea to indicate it there. Or some kind of
reference.
I am not sure my information fits. My C64 emu ran against the actual
PLATO installation at UIUC, as far as I know, not MicroPLATO.
Jim
11:13 p.m.
New subject: PLATO for C64
Mmm... Well, I shall try to review this weekend all the information of this
message thread (and the other two related) and shall try to do a resume to
incorporate in the article in Wikipedia. I shall try to send it too to
Cyber1.org to know their opinion.
Regards
SPc.
2011/9/20 Jim Brain <brain at jbrain.com>
On 9/19/2011 2:20 AM, SPC wrote:
Interesting. In the original thread of this
message I pasted this excerpt
from the Wikipedia articla about PLATO:
"An attempt to mass-market the PLATO system was introduced in 1980 as
Micro-PLATO, which ran the basic
TUTOR<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/TUTOR_%28programming_**language%29&…
TRS-80<http://en.wikipedia.**org/wiki/TRS-80<http://en.wikipedia.org/…
and IBM Personal
Computer<http://en.wikipedia.**org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer<http://…
**>
"
Would you like to expand this paragraph ? If you are sure about this
matter,
I think that would be a good idea to indicate it there. Or some kind of
reference.
I am not sure my information fits. My C64 emu ran against the actual PLATO
installation at UIUC, as far as I know, not MicroPLATO.
Jim
system
on a CDC "Viking-721"
terminal and various home computers. Versions
were built for the Texas Instruments
TI-99/4A<http://en.wikipedia.**org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TI-**99/4A<…
,
Atari 8-bit
family<http://en.wikipedia.**org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family<http://en.wi…mily>>,
Zenith
Z-100<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/S-100_bus<http://en.wikipedia.or…
and, later, Radio
Shack<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Radio_Shack<http://en.wikipedia.…
22 Sep
22 Sep
7:24 a.m.
New subject: RL02 Disks available...
Hi,
Cleaning house a bit and I've got a substantial amount of RL02 disk's
available. Anyone interested in trading/buying please contact me off
list curt (at) atarimuseum (dot) com
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