29 Aug
2011
29 Aug
'11
1:27 p.m.
At 03:00 PM 8/29/2011, William Donzelli wrote:
What about the virtual worlds? You can have a virtual machine running
the original software, and maybe even connected to an emulated server
- but it won't be much fun playing in an endless void.
"World" meaning the 3D landscape? Or the players and their stuff?
It's all in databases on servers. It's probably all in virtual
appliances today. Appliance images are probably all they are
backing-up today. No doubt some other earlier examples exist where
they quaintly put one and only OS on one physical server, but if
you have the hard drive image, it could be virtualized.
- John
How will the archivists handle these?
Virtual machine images. 
29 Aug
29 Aug
2:22 p.m.
"World" meaning the 3D landscape? ?Or the
players and their stuff?
Yes, the content. Yes, we can probably archive the game engine, but I
doubt anyone is capturing and archiving the world as they play*.
It's all in databases on servers.
The issue is archiving the databases. For the games that have died
out, did anyone bother to save these databases? Or even just the
format and structure?
* now waiting for the link for the WoW Real Time World Archive Project.
--
Will
5:07 p.m.
On 29/08/11 5:22 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
You might enjoy this short story:
http://www.cubeyterra.com/2010/10/the-oldbie/
(I think Second Life inspired)
"World" meaning the 3D landscape? Or the players and their stuff?
Yes, the content. Yes, we can probably archive the game engine, but I
doubt anyone is capturing and archiving the world as they play*.
It's all
in databases on servers.
The issue is archiving the databases. For the games that have died
out, did anyone bother to save these databases? Or even just the
format and structure?
* now waiting for the link for the WoW Real Time World Archive Project.
--
Will
30 Aug
30 Aug
8:27 a.m.
At 07:07 PM 8/29/2011, Toby Thain wrote:
You might enjoy this short story:
http://www.cubeyterra.com/2010/10/the-oldbie/
(I think Second Life inspired)
The problem is, you're interacting with stuff that other users have
consented to place in that world. You might've enjoyed SecondLife's
Gardens of Apollo, but when that space's creator can no longer afford
to pay for their portion of the virtual world, it'll disappear.
Maybe the fine print of the user agreement would allow SL or its
intellectual property successors to revive what you created, but
that could trigger a cascade of subsequent IP disputes.
- John
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