6 Sep
2011
6 Sep
'11
12:18 p.m.
Hi all,
where could I find media for Pascal and basic for them?
Preferably .iso images?
Any chance, to find HP-UX for them?
Cheers & Thanks
6 Sep
6 Sep
12:41 p.m.
On 9/6/11 12:18 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
Hi all,
where could I find media for Pascal and basic for them?
Preferably .iso images?
The HP Museum should have floppy images. I would be interested
in CD images if they exist for Pascal and Basic for the 382.
I've only ever seen floppies and 9844 tapes.
Any chance, to find HP-UX for them?
CHM did get a release from HP for all 68000 9000 series
software, so that should include Unix. There was some question
about Rocky Mountain BASIC, since it was sold to
Test & Measurement Systems, Inc. in 1998
1:30 p.m.
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
Namens Al Kossow
Verzonden: dinsdag 6 september 2011 21:42
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: hp 9000/382
On 9/6/11 12:18 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
images
Hi all,
where could I find media for Pascal and basic for them?
Preferably .iso images?
The HP Museum should have floppy images. I would be interested in CD if they exist for Pascal and Basic for the 382.
I've only ever seen floppies and 9844 tapes.
should
Any chance, to find HP-UX for them?
CHM did get a release from HP for all 68000 9000 series software, so that include Unix. There was some question about Rocky
Mountain BASIC, since it
was sold to Test & Measurement Systems, Inc. in 1998
I do have the HP-UX CD 9.XX and I think 10.X but I have to check that.
-Rik
2:24 p.m.
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Namens emanuel stiebler
Verzonden: dinsdag 6 september 2011 22:42
Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Onderwerp: Re: hp 9000/382
On 2011-09-06 14:30, Rik Bos wrote:
No it's HP-UX 9.10 and you can use it at the 300/400 series.
The 10.x is the latest for the 700 series.
-Rik
I do have the HP-UX CD 9.XX and I think 10.X but
I have to check that.
I think the 8.x was the last supporting the 68k architecture? 
7 Sep
7 Sep
11 a.m.
I do have the HP-UX CD 9.XX and I think 10.X but I
have to check that.
Quick qeustion, which I suspect has a long answer...
I have a couiple of HP9000/200 machines that I believe are capable of
running HP-UX. One is an HP9836CU, the other an HP9817. Both have 68010
processors with HP's own MMU circuitry
What more do I need to run HP-UX on them (I believe at least a DMA
contoller board, which I probably have and an HP98625 high-speed HPIB
board which I certainly have), what sort of drive(s) do I need, where can
I get the HP-UX software, and how do I install it?
-tony
1:51 p.m.
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Namens Tony Duell
Verzonden: woensdag 7 september 2011 20:01
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: hp 9000/382
running
I do have the HP-UX CD 9.XX and I think 10.X but
I have to check that.
Quick qeustion, which I suspect has a long answer...
I have a couiple of HP9000/200 machines that I believe are capable of HP-UX. One is an HP9836CU, the other an HP9817. Both
have 68010 processors
with HP's own MMU circuitry
What more do I need to run HP-UX on them (I believe at least a DMA
contoller
board, which I probably have and an HP98625 high-speed
HPIB board which I
certainly have), what sort of drive(s) do I need, where can I get the
HP-UX
software, and how do I install it?
-tony
Tony,
For as far I know you need a lot of RAM 1 or 2 MB the more the better, and
you will need a CS80 drive and the obvious fast HP-IB controller with DMA
installed or a SCSI controller with the DMA option installed...
You also need a tape or CD with HP-UX 2.X or 5.1 on it because I don't think
HP-UX 9.xx will run on a 68010.
You can try to install 9.XX, but the HP-UX media I have is a CD, you can get
the images from me or if needed I can send you the CD's.
You can find some info at :
http://www.pimpworks.org/hp/hpuxfaq.html
and better at :
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/
a quote :\
Series 100 Motorola 680x0? n/a
Series 200 Motorola 680x0 2.x, 5.1
Series 300 Motorola 680x0 6.x, 7.x, 8.0/01/05/07, 9.0/01/03/10
Series 400 Motorola 680x0 7.x, 8.0/01/05/07
Series 500 HP Focus 1.x, 5.x
Series 600 HP PA-RISC 2.x, 3.x, 7.0, 8.0/02/06, 9.0/02/04
Series 700 HP PA-RISC 7.03/05/09, 8.0/01/05/07,
9.01/03/05/07/09, 10.x, 11.x
Series 800 HP PA-RISC 1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 7.0, 8.0/02/06,
9.0/02/04, 10.x, 11.0/10/11/23, 11.30?
Itanium Intel IPF 11.2x, 11.30
-Rik
3:09 p.m.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rik Bos <hp-fix at xs4all.nl> wrote:
You also need a tape or CD with HP-UX 2.X or 5.1 on it
because I don't think
HP-UX 9.xx will run on a 68010.
I have a 9000/310 which has a 68010 in it, yet the FAQs say all of the
300 series machines should run 6.x - 9.10. Do you have other
information that indicates that 6.x - 9.10 won't run on my box? I only
have BASIC on mine and would like to run HP-UX, but am not sure which
version I should be trying to track down.
You can try to install 9.XX, but the HP-UX media I
have is a CD, you can get
the images from me or if needed I can send you the CD's.
Series 200 ? ?Motorola 680x0 ? ? 2.x, 5.1
Series 300 ? ?Motorola 680x0 ? ? 6.x, 7.x, 8.0/01/05/07, 9.0/01/03/10
-Jon
8 Sep
8 Sep
12:56 p.m.
For as far I know you need a lot of RAM 1 or 2 MB the
more the better, and
That's not a problem. My 9836CU has 4M in it, I think there's 2M in the
9817, but I have some odd 1M boards around anyway.
you will need a CS80 drive and the obvious fast HP-IB
controller with DMA
installed or a SCSI controller with the DMA option installed...
You also need a tape or CD with HP-UX 2.X or 5.1 on it because I don't think
HP-UX 9.xx will run on a 68010.
I think that's the problem. I've nevre heard of anyone having said
version. I beleiv the problem is the DMA controller and MMU, which are
both very different from thsse in later machines.
You can try to install 9.XX, but the HP-UX media I
have is a CD, you can get
the images from me or if needed I can send you the CD's.
You can find some info at :
http://www.pimpworks.org/hp/hpuxfaq.html
and better at :
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/
a quote :\
Series 100 Motorola 680x0? n/a
What's the 'seriwes 100' here? I know of the HP series 100 machines (the
CP/M nd MS-DOS ones), but I've not heard of those classed as HP9000s.
Series 200 Motorola 680x0 2.x, 5.1
One of the FAQs you mention claims that the series 200s don't run HP-UX
at all. This is clearly nonsense, sinces that's what the 'U' in
'9836CU'
means. But having seen the source of that comment, I know to treat it
with a large dose of NaCL...
-tony
2:05 p.m.
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Namens Tony Duell
Verzonden: donderdag 8 september 2011 21:57
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: hp 9000/382
9817, but
For as far I know you need a lot of RAM 1 or 2 MB
the more the better,
and
That's not a problem. My 9836CU has 4M in it, I think there's 2M in the
I have some odd 1M boards around anyway.
version.
I
you will need a CS80 drive and the obvious fast
HP-IB controller with
DMA installed or a SCSI controller with the DMA option installed...
You also need a tape or CD with HP-UX 2.X or 5.1 on it because I don't
think HP-UX 9.xx will run on a 68010.
I think that's the problem. I've nevre heard of anyone having said beleiv the problem is the DMA controller and MMU,
which are both very
different from thsse in later machines.
Yes that's why I think it's doubtful a 68010 will run HP-UX 9.XX
You can try to
install 9.XX, but the HP-UX media I have is a CD, you
can get the images from me or if needed I can send you the CD's.
You can find some info at :
http://www.pimpworks.org/hp/hpuxfaq.html
and better at :
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/
a quote :\
Series 100 Motorola 680x0? n/a
What's the 'seriwes 100' here? I know of the HP series 100 machines (the
nd MS-DOS ones), but I've not heard of those
classed as HP9000s.
all.
Series 200 Motorola 680x0 2.x, 5.1
One of the FAQs you mention claims that the series 200s don't run HP-UX at
This is clearly nonsense, sinces that's what the
'U' in '9836CU'
means.
Yep, true...
But having seen the source of that comment, I know to treat it with a
large dose of NaCL...
-tony
-Rik
7 Sep
7 Sep
12:55 a.m.
You could find raw sector images (non compressed) and python tool
to deal with TD0 images in the archives of my 98x6 emulator at
http://sites.google.com/site/olivier2smet2/hp_projects/hp98x6
TD0 images are somewhat disturbing, as they can record data from
previous writing if format parameters changed between uses.
Olivier
2011/9/6 Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>:
On 9/6/11 12:18 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
Hi all,
where could I find media for Pascal and basic for them?
Preferably .iso images?
The HP Museum should have floppy images. I would be interested
in CD images if they exist for Pascal and Basic for the 382.
I've only ever seen floppies and 9844 tapes.
Any chance, to find HP-UX for them?
CHM did get a release from HP for all 68000 9000 series
software, so that should include Unix. There was some question
about Rocky Mountain BASIC, since it was sold to
Test & Measurement Systems, Inc. in 1998
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