Enough people are asking about the P112 that I think I can justify taking preorders. I don't know exactly how much it'll cost for this run, but I'm fairly sure it'll be decently similar to how it was last time, which was US$165. I'll have the parts costs calculated out in a couple days. Then I'll know how many preorders will be needed to get things rolling. Stand by for more info. I anticipate three visible changes in the kit. 1) Depending on how many 32k chips I have left, I may go ahead and make 1M modules of the sort that Terry made up a while ago. 512k chips in DIP packages is very expensive, but for SMT packages, it's very cheap. The 1M module is nothing more than a daughterboard that plugs into the P112 and behaves exactly like a pair of DIPs. 2) Add two holes near the RTC crystal. I think it would be cleaner to use a loop of wire to hold the crystal down instead of a blob of epoxy. 3) Change the battery holder to something more compatible with add-on boards. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?