29 Jan
2006
29 Jan
'06
5:56 a.m.
I did a search on an intel iup201a EPROM programmer , and noticed that you may have one ,
or did in 2003.....
Was wondering if you still have it , or if you got rid of it .. I am looking for an EPROM
burner that will do 2716's-32's-64's - and 27128's ........
Please advise ...
Thank you
Graham ( VE1FC)
29 Jan
29 Jan
8:32 a.m.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:56:30 -0500
"GrahamWarrington" <graham.warrington at gmail.com> wrote:
I did a search on an intel iup201a EPROM programmer ,
and noticed that you may have one , or did in 2003.....
Was wondering if you still have it , or if you got rid of it .. I am looking for an EPROM
burner that will do 2716's-32's-64's - and 27128's ........
Please advise ...
Almost any common EPROM burner will program 2716-128 parts. The
'hard barrier' is at the 2708, which is significantly different.
The cheapest, most common programmers from the mid-80s onward
should fill your need. Nothing special from Intel is needed.
Though collecting Intel development hardware as an end unto
itself is a worthy pursuit...
Thank you
Graham ( VE1FC)
1:48 p.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits (was: iUP201)
In article <20060129113221.0f1a2355.sastevens at earthlink.net>,
Scott Stevens <sastevens at earthlink.net> writes:
The cheapest, most common programmers from the mid-80s
onward
should fill your need. Nothing special from Intel is needed.
Though collecting Intel development hardware as an end unto
itself is a worthy pursuit...
How many of you collect development kit stuff like evaluation boards,
in circuit emulators, cross compilers, etc.
I have used ICEs for a 6809 and they were pretty expensive iron for
the time (1986) and most companies I know rented them for the duration
of a project rather than purchase them. Which makes me wonder...
where do the rental companies discard their outdated inventory?
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1:54 p.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits
Richard wrote:
In article <20060129113221.0f1a2355.sastevens at
earthlink.net>,
Scott Stevens <sastevens at earthlink.net> writes:
<raises hand> I DO! </raises hand>
I have a few Intel MDS Series II systems. All but one work. And I
recently actually used one of them with an ICE-80 to troubleshoot a cpu
board.
The cheapest, most common programmers from the
mid-80s onward
should fill your need. Nothing special from Intel is needed.
Though collecting Intel development hardware as an end unto
itself is a worthy pursuit...
How many of you collect development kit stuff like evaluation boards,
in circuit emulators, cross compilers, etc.
I have used ICEs for a 6809 and they were pretty
expensive iron for
the time (1986) and most companies I know rented them for the duration
of a project rather than purchase them. Which makes me wonder...
where do the rental companies discard their outdated inventory?
The ICE hardware certainly was expensive. And I know that at one time I
used to get "for sale" flyers from some of the rental companies with
their old development hardware. Prices were affordable by the time they
were getting rid of them, but still not "by the pound" prices that some
folks here find.
2:21 p.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits
I also have a few boards and some Intel development equipment.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Collecting development kits
Richard wrote:
In article <20060129113221.0f1a2355.sastevens
at earthlink.net>,
Scott Stevens <sastevens at earthlink.net> writes:
<raises hand> I DO! </raises hand>
I have a few Intel MDS Series II systems. All but one work. And I
recently actually used one of them with an ICE-80 to troubleshoot a cpu
board.
The cheapest, most common programmers from the
mid-80s onward
should fill your need. Nothing special from Intel is needed.
Though collecting Intel development hardware as an end unto
itself is a worthy pursuit...
How many of you collect development kit stuff like evaluation boards,
in circuit emulators, cross compilers, etc.
I have used ICEs for a 6809 and they were pretty
expensive iron for
the time (1986) and most companies I know rented them for the duration
of a project rather than purchase them. Which makes me wonder...
where do the rental companies discard their outdated inventory?
The ICE hardware certainly was expensive. And I know that at one time I
used to get "for sale" flyers from some of the rental companies with their
old development hardware. Prices were affordable by the time they were
getting rid of them, but still not "by the pound" prices that some folks
here find.
7:40 a.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits
At 04:54 PM 1/29/06 -0500, you wrote:
Richard wrote:
>In article <20060129113221.0f1a2355.sastevens at earthlink.net>,
> Scott Stevens <sastevens at earthlink.net> writes:
>
>
>
>>The cheapest, most common programmers from the mid-80s onward
>>should fill your need. Nothing special from Intel is needed.
>>Though collecting Intel development hardware as an end unto
>>itself is a worthy pursuit...
>>
>>
>
>How many of you collect development kit stuff like evaluation boards,
>in circuit emulators, cross compilers, etc.
I have a BUNCH of Intel MDSs, at least 8 working 800s, 2 working 235s, a
working 235 and two i201s and a BUNCH of intel Multibus cards. I also have
a couple Tektronix developement systems, a TI system, an early Zilog system
but never used them. I've been working on webpages for the Intel stuff but
this is all I have up so far.
Multibus boards > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/multibus/multibus.html>
Intel MDS-800 #1 > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds-800/mds-800.htm>
Intel MDS-800 #3 > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds800_3/>
Intel MDS-800 #4 > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds800_4/>
Intel MDS Docs > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds/>
Oh, I have parts from an AMC system and some other brands in my collection
of Multibus boards.
Joe
1:23 p.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits
In article <3.0.6.16.20060130154009.42b780ca at pop-server.cfl.rr.com>,
"Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com> writes:
I have a BUNCH of Intel MDSs, at least 8 working
800s, 2 working 235s, a
working 235 and two i201s and a BUNCH of intel Multibus cards. I also have
a couple Tektronix developement systems, a TI system, an early Zilog system
but never used them.
I was just looking at the 1983 Tektronix catalog on BitSavers the
other day and noticed they had some fancy uP development systems. Are
the ones you have in the catalog?
I've been working on webpages for the Intel stuff
but
this is all I have up so far.
Multibus boards > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/multibus/multibus.html>
Intel MDS-800 #1 > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds-800/mds-800.htm>
Intel MDS-800 #3 > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds800_3/>
Intel MDS-800 #4 > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds800_4/>
Intel MDS Docs > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds/>
Intel MDS under hp?
Speaking of busses, does anyone have a good online reference URL for
bus specifications? I know that individual busses like PCI have their
own consortium with published specs, but I was thinking more of a
single web site that collated all the bus information together,
including historical busses like S-100, S-50, STD, VME, Unibus,
multibus, massbus, Q-bus, etc. For instance, I looked for stuff on
VME and multibus and didn't come up with anything obvious.
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1:56 p.m.
New subject: Bus reference (was: Collecting development kits)
In article <E1F3gUj-00001b-00 at xmission.xmission.com>,
Richard <legalize at xmission.com> writes:
Speaking of busses, does anyone have a good online
reference URL for
bus specifications? I know that individual busses like PCI have their
own consortium with published specs, but I was thinking more of a
single web site that collated all the bus information together,
including historical busses like S-100, S-50, STD, VME, Unibus,
multibus, massbus, Q-bus, etc. For instance, I looked for stuff on
VME and multibus and didn't come up with anything obvious.
Silly me... I ask where it is and then I find it. D'oh!
<http://www.techfest.com/hardware/bus.htm>
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29 Jan
29 Jan
2:35 p.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits (was: iUP201)
How many of you collect development kit stuff like
evaluation boards,
in circuit emulators, cross compilers, etc.
\begin{rpf}
ME!!!!!!!!!!
\end{rpf}
I've got a few In-circuit emulators (IIRC the Intel 8080 one, a 3rd party
one for the Z80, and a Tekky one for one of the 9900 CPUs), a couple of
Intel development machines (MCS8i, MDS800), A Futuredata development
system, a couple of Tekky development systems, etc.
I might actually _use_ this stuff for the original purpose too...
-tony
3:09 p.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits (was: iUP201)
In article <m1F3L98-000IyFC at p850ug1>,
ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) writes:
I've got a few In-circuit emulators (IIRC the
Intel 8080 one, a 3rd party
one for the Z80, and a Tekky one for one of the 9900 CPUs), a couple of
Intel development machines (MCS8i, MDS800), A Futuredata development
system, a couple of Tekky development systems, etc.
COOL! I think its great to know that some of these old ICEs end up in
the hands of collectors who would use it on vintage equipment from the
same era.
If you think about an ICE for a microprocessor, it has to be at
*least* as fast as the uP that it is emulating in order to keep up
with the target system. It also has to have beefier I/O in order to
keep a buffer of bus transactions and so-on. I remember the one we
used for the 6809 looked like some serious iron with multiple cards in
a cage and some serious cooling fans :-).
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30 Jan
30 Jan
4:46 p.m.
New subject: Collecting development kits (Intel Probes)
There are two really nifty probes on Ebay of interest to anyone
following this thread.
One is for the Pentium, and the other is for the Pentium + MMX, both
socket 7,
I believe.
auction 7584878862 is for the pentium, and auction 7584877057 is for
the MMX one. the xxx8862 auction seems to have a processor, the xxx7057
one does not.
These are HP interposers, designed to go between a processor and socket, and
connect to a logic analyzer. I think they take power supplies, or may be
powered off the analyzer cables, I don't recall right now.
There is a run control connector visible on the top view photograph, so
if you
have an agilent e5900a or e5900b that allows you to stop the processor, you
are all set.
Jim
29 Jan
29 Jan
8:51 a.m.
Hello Graham,
Your message was sent to a list server, so it went to many people.
That's ok, because there are a lot of people here who are interested in
the "classic" computer equipment. You cast a "wide net" with it.
I have an interest in the Intel development systems and accessories. I
have an iUP201 with several personality plug in modules.
Anyway, I'm not exactly sure from your message if you are looking for an
entire 201 or just the module. And in either case, do you have an Intel
MDS to connect it to?
Let's talk.
Dave
GrahamWarrington wrote:
I did a search on an intel iup201a EPROM programmer ,
and noticed that you may have one , or did in 2003.....
Was wondering if you still have it , or if you got rid of it .. I am looking for an EPROM
burner that will do 2716's-32's-64's - and 27128's ........
Please advise ...
Thank you
Graham ( VE1FC)
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