10 Apr
2020
10 Apr
'20
7:18 a.m.
If it helps at all, I run a public hp2000/access emulated system that everyone is free to
play with. It?s been up for many years.
Telnet to Mickey.publicvm.com
Do ctl m and ctl j till you see PLEASE LOG IN
HEL-t001,hp2000,1
If anyone wants a personal account just let me know.
-Bob
-Bob
On Apr 9, 2020, at 11:18 PM, David Williams via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
?On 2020-04-08 22:47, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote:
The HP Orsay (not Grenoble, as I misremembered)
implementation is the only
SNOBOL3 implementation I've used. There's a free SNOBOL4 implementation
here for various PC operating systems:
https://github.com/spitbol/
Actually, it's a SPITBOL implementation, which is a compiled version of
SNOBOL4; see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPITBOL
I've used the Windows NT version for years; it's still my preferred
language for string manipulation. Note that SNOBOL3 and SNOBOL4 are
different syntactically, though learning one certainly would aid in
learning the other.
I first learn of SNOBOL4, still have my copy of the green book which was how I first came
across it. I know there are various versions available online these days, just been low on
the todo list.
If you're not necessarily wedded to the HP
21xx/1000 architecture, the HP
3000 simulator and its associated MPE operating system kit from the SIMH/HP
site has a number of languages preinstalled:
- BASIC (interpreter and compiler)
- COBOL 68
- COBOL 74/85
- FORTRAN 66
- Pascal
- RPG
- SPL
The latter is HP's proprietary Systems Programming Language, an ALGOL-like
derivative used in lieu of assembler to implement MPE and most of the
compilers and utilities.
Only "wedded" to the HP 21xx for nostalgia purposes having been my first
exposure to computers and wanted to play with it some more. Having lots of free time at
the moment, I'm investigating lots of different systems. Mainly via
emulation/simulation. HP 3000 is certainly on the list and a lot of the languages that you
list there are on the "to play with" list so I'll probably bump it up the
todo list a bit. Would be fun to play around with COBOL, FORTRAN and others again. I seem
to recall we had a FORTRAN on our 2000F which was my first exposure to that language but
as it was under 2000F TSB I assume it was something written in BASIC that either
interpreted FORTRAN or maybe a p-code like system or what I have no idea. Was so long ago
I have old print outs from it but don't recall anything more about it otherwise and
haven't ever seen anything about it in my limited searches. But it did start me
exploring other languages which lead me to discover SNOBOL and many others.
David Williams