30 Mar
2020
30 Mar
'20
4:35 p.m.
On 3/30/2020 6:29 PM, Marc Howard wrote:
Stupid question time.? I last used APL in a class in
1975.? Back then you needed a magic terminal and/or a magic Selectric typeball.? How does
one input or print a program on a PDP-11 with mere mortal equipment?
Thanks,
Marc Howard
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:07 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org
<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>> wrote:
On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote:
Marc,
? On page 1-5 of the APL-11 Reference Manual that Mark posted there is a table showing
the ACII equivalents for the special APL character set.? There are also instructions there
on how to do it.? It's a combination of characters and backspaces.? Kinda tough on a
video terminal but workable on a printer.
--
John H. Reinhardt
Bill,
? ? ? I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it available
at http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip <http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip>
? ? ? Once you mount the disk image with Simh, the are two ready to run task images that
will run under RSX11M or M+
In [201,200]APL6OK.TSK and APL7OK.TSK that are the REAL*4 and REAL*8 versions of APL-11.
On the disk are the
Original .MAC sources as well as files from a RSX SIG tape that modified APL-11 for I/D
under RSX11M+ that increased
The workspace (.BXWA from ~30000 to ~60000 bytes). It also contains a character set for
Vt220 for the APL character set.
? ? ?When you install the APL task experiment with the /INC to maximize the available
workspace, On my system, I can
INS APL6.TSK/INC=37000 to max the workspace for the single precision version.
? ? ?Also, the scanned APL-11 reference manual can be downloaded at
http://www.rsx11m.com/APL-11-Ref-Man.pdf <http://www.rsx11m.com/APL-11-Ref-Man.pdf>
? ?and the APL11 installation guide at http://www.rsx11m.com/APL11ins.pdf
<http://www.rsx11m.com/APL11ins.pdf>
? ? ?The RSX SIG files that have the info to change APL-11 to an I/D RSX11M+ task are at
[370,360] on the RL02 disk. I remember having this work back in the mid-1980s butI have
not been able to get it to work today. If I link it with ODT it seems to blow up when the
first overlay is loaded. If anyone could help with that I?d really appreciate it!
Best,
Mark
Thanks Mark!
I remember we had APL at Rose-Hulman when I was in college there from 1978-1983.? At
first I thought it was on the VAX-11/780 that showed up over the summer of 1980, but now I
realize it had to have been on our PDP-11/70 running RSTS/E. Probably APL-11 V1.X since it
was there in the Fall of 1978 when I started.? We had a couple of DEC LA36's with the
APL character set and keyboards.
--
John H. Reinhardt