20 Jul
2008
20 Jul
'08
10:16 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Gahlinger" <dgahling at hotmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: the "history" of the Internet/Web
I still say all these postings confuses small "i" internet with big
"I"
Internet.
was the public on the net at that time? not really, residential home users
certainly didn't exist.
most of the public considers the "web" to be the Internet. hey, don't
fault me for that, it's public thinking.
and that, at least according to Wiki, was the CERN site in Aug of 1991,
almost 30 years later than this.
and again, it wasn't publically published until starting in 1994/1995 at
the earliest.
Even at this time, BBSes were the way of things, the web wasn't really
thought of.
I worked for a rather large PC manufacturer at the time, companies weren't
advertising or using "Internet"
until around 1995, perhaps it was a bit earlier in other places, but I
hardly think so.
For example, the first Cisco 2501 router to roll off the assembly lines
was in 1994.
And at least in the early days, the only addressing they had was Novell
IPX.
neither igrp nor ospf were there yet. (just putting things in
perspective).
Um, I don't really know what's up with that, but what the heck - I'll bite.
By the time the 25xx series rolled out, most large companies with a
T1-or-greater connection were most likely
running a Cisco AGS/IGS series router - we had an AGS+ at Citrix, so I don't
really know what your reference to
the 25xx series has anything remotely to do with it...as to IPX only, well,
I don't know - seems we were doing IP just
fine even on the AGS+.
I never know you could connect to, say, UUNet, using IPX. Learn something
new every day, I suppose....
Again, the university and research environment was different. but that's
how it was.
So continue with your stupid jokes, and ancient references that mean
nothing to the public at large.
I thought this list was a bit more mature than this
So fine, into the garbage a piece of history goes. congratulations! I hope
you're happy
The issue is you are trying to tell a bunch of geeks (no offense, folks -
I'm included) the history of the internet, that probably
99% of us actually WENT THROUGH, and are apparently trying to do some
history changing??
I wouldn't get too ticked off, I mean, you're talking to a serious amount of
concentrated computer/mainframe/networking/development
knowledge on this list, and quite frankly, trying to tell us that email was
invented on a SparcStation SLC in 1994 is, well, a tad insulting.
We are QUITE a bit more intelligent than that, and no amount of
Wikipedia-diving on your part is going to change the fact that we know
better.
As to the Sun, well, if it WAS that valuable, "ain't no way" you'd trash
it - I know that, YOU know that, and THEY know that, and yet
another case of underestimating the group...
I'm not feeding any more trolls.