22 Dec
2012
22 Dec
'12
8:22 a.m.
"Religion is like bad breath,
I don't care if you have it just keep it away from me."
Lol. love it. Agreed and likely popular demand not to squabble over personal, or ancient
beliefs here. Long as you're happy with whatever then it serves you well.
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From: Diane Bruce <db at db.net>
Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.orgDate: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:12:22
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Subject: Re: Neo-paganism [was Re: older Yamaha keyboards]
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 09:33:59AM -0500, Mouse wrote:
...
I am not sure that this discussion belongs on this list at all. However
I might point out that the term 'pagan' was originally applied to Xtians
since they did not believe in the Roman gods.
The early Xtians were guilty of genocide, slavery and rape.
And let's not mention the barbaic practices of today's Xtians. That would be
a tu quoque after all. Let me know when Xtians stop killing doctors,
stop screwing little boys, stop encouraging genocide in Africa ok?
I would suggest this is a bad way to claim any sort of moral superiority
due to your religion.
Exactly.
Yes talking to snakes is completely and utterly normal. Gotcha.
Kettle pot.
The pagans
think they have it up on us as a result somehow.
Speaking of "the pagans" makes about as much sense as speaking of "the
Christians" - perhaps even less. That aside, I'm not sure what you
think this is "a result" of. I could take
the time to allude to the barbaric practices of most of
the early forms of paganism,
Indeed, you did. stuff which modern pagans take pains to separate
themselves from
(hence the neo-). It's awful nice when you can alter your beliefs to
suit the times, and dispense with all that nastier stuff.
Christianity and Abrahamic religions in general don't have particularly
clean hands themselves. Nor are they immune to altering their beliefs
(or at least their dogma, their professed beliefs) to suit the times. ?I know a pagan
lady. Bat crap crazy she is.
Indeed. So are some Christians. And Jews. And Moslems. And
atheists. And...
She said Thor was one of her favorites deities
(along w/"Squat", who
is alleged to be something of a patron saint of automobile financing.
You ask her).
Eh. If I had a way to contact her, I might be curious enough to
bother, or I might not. Whether Squat is real for her has no
particular bearing on whether Squat is real for me.
I do, however, wonder why you're citing the opinions and perceptions of
someone "bat crap crazy" as if they were relevant to the discussion.
So I asked her does she really believe Thor was a
real *god*. She
stated to the effect that all those old world gods were
manifestations/representations of "the Divine".
Not a terribly uncommon point of view, and not too far from my own: the
various deities that have reality for me are what the Divine looks like
when looked at from my point of view. This has little-to-nothing to do
with what it looks like when looked at from some other point of view. From my point of view, there are no such entities as I
am an atheist.
There are also neopagans who also happen to be atheist. Yes this is
possible.
Indeed, though I don't see the proverb as being applicable here.
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I'm going to leave off here with a request to all of you to take
religion off of here as it is a personal matter. Religion is like bad breath,
I don't care if you have it just keep it away from me.
- Diane
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