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There is every reason to complain about its use if it doesn't do the job I want, or if it is inferior to other programs for what I want to do. I much prefer the idea of a separate editor and formatter, the latter taking in a file contianing pritable characters only. For me this has many advantages, among them : I can produce the input file on any comnputer I own. If I want to type up a paragrph 'on the move' I can do os on an old HP palmtop. More usefully, it doesn't have to be me, or indeed a person, that produces that input file. I can trivially write a program in any language to output a suitable file. Which means, for example, I can write a program to analyse the contents of a look-up table ROM and have the output of said program as a LaTeX file with the right formatting commands in it. To me this is _very_ useful. It also means that as that file is included inthe text at the formatting stage, a slip with the editor can't change it, so I can't accidentally change one of the numbers in the table. Since the formatting comamnds are just strings of text, I can trivially ensure that that 2 tables (or wahtever) are formatted identically. This is much hareder to do with any what-you-see-is-all-you-get program And of course I can process a plain text file with any number of other tools. It's odd, but I find it a lot easier to get the results I want in TeX/LaTeX than my Word-using friends do with Word. -tony