On 25 October 2011 02:55, Jerome H. Fine <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> wrote:
Liam Proven
wrote:
On 21
October 2011 04:58, Jerome H. Fine <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> wrote:
At the risk if being naive, perhaps this list
could use a bit of
inspiration
-
to see if we could help the discussion to be more useful.
There is a book written by Michael Kahn: ?"The TAO of Conversation".
The primary point is that in an idea conversation, there can never be
an opinion which is right or wrong. ?Attempting to support an opinion
helps us to understand the opinion even if we totally disagree with that
opinion.
While I agree with both of the opinions of Dave McGuire and Liam Proven,
it seems difficult to figure out exactly which is more useful because
they
seem so angry at each other.
I only noticed this in a subsequent quote today.
I was irritated, yes, but I was trying /very/ hard to be calm, polite
and reasonable. I was the one getting abused, not dispensing it.
That much was obvious. ?The question is why you became irritated!
We could
use a bit of "Barn Raising".
What does that mean?
Read the source (the book) Luke (Liam), read the source.
There is much more behind the concepts in the book, but
they are a good start. ?After reading for more than 36 years,
I am just beginning to understand myself. ?I also used to
be irritated (still am sometimes - and I also react without
thinking some of the time), so it is now easy to recognize
those events even easier in others as opposed to myself.
I've added it to my Bookmooch wishlist. I'll just have to wait and
see. It certainly looks interesting.
--
Liam Proven ? Info & profile:
Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419
AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at