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 From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
 Behalf Of Bill Allen Jr
 Sent: 02 April 2003 06:14
 To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
 Subject: RE: IBM 5161
 The ibm 5161 expansion box was designed for use with
 the ibm pc. 
And presumably *only* the PC, ie not the XT.
  the pc had fewer slots then the later released pc xt
 and it's power supply was too small to handle a hard
 drive. 
Yep, 5 slots and a 63W PSU that couldn't even handle a fully populated
backplane if some of the cards were a little power-hungry.
  the exp box added a hard drive to the system and
 provided extra card slots ( i think the box also had
 additional bios or came with an extra fixed disk rom
 chip that went into the pc). 
Not that I've found, just an 8-slot backplane which immediately loses a slot
because one of them must be occupied by the receiving end of the expander
interface that has to go in the 5150. There might be a BIOS in that
interface though, I didn't really check that. The 5161 has a hard drive
controller card in it as well as a Seagate monster that's probably only 5 or
10 meg.
  the card that connects to the ribbon cables that come
 from the exp box goes into one of the pc's card slots. 
No ribbon cables, just an interface cable that's thicker than my thumb!
  i cannot remember if it is slot specific or if it can
 go into any slot - there is a plate on the pc's back
 that removes to allow the ribbon cables to exit the
 case. 
There's a plate on the back, yes, maybe very early boxes used ribbons and
the thicker cables came along later?
  i was told that the expansion box was a little rare
 because, shortly after the pc was released that pc xt
 was released . 
Well, a year later anyway, after the 5150 had shifted 200,000 units
according to most websites.
I've put a breakdown of the kit on my IBM page - go to
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk and click on the link in the very top 'updates'
message.
cheers
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adrian/witchy
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