VHDL PDP11

...except that you have to (a) be willing to run either Windows or Linux, (b) run on their choice of hardware, and either (c1) set up a very heavily firewalled sacrificial system or (c2) trust the security of your system to code they aren't even willing to let you look at. I'm not willing to do (c2) at all, and not willing to do either (a) or (c1) unless I'm getting paid a fair bit to do so ((b) might join (a) and (c1), if their required hardware is something I don't have, though that's highly unlikely). I'm much less concerned about tools than I am about documentation on the hardware's interface, on what the bits in the blob thrown at the hardware mean (and how to thrown them at it, though that part is much more likely to be documented). I would probably find open-source tools useful mainly as hardware documentation, though if they are properly designed I might be able to pull off their UI and stick on something I find usable. I'd love to get into FPGA hacking. But not nearly enough so to tolerate something as abusive towards their users as "you have to run our closed-source code". :-? /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B