3 Aug
2004
3 Aug
'04
12:44 a.m.
At 07:47 PM 8/2/04 -0400, you wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
To: "Geoffrey Thomas" <geoffreythomas(a)onetel.com>om>; "General
Discussion:
On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: OT stupid Welsh and Americans (was Re: Cirris 1000)
Correct. About 1840 IIRC. I think the French outlawed it about the same
time.
I do find it comical when blacks ask for
Considering the English colonial past, the English don't have the right
to complain about anything! Not only see Opium wars, see black slavery
(who do you think shipped the slaves to America and the Caribeaan in
exchange for sugar and rum?), Irish potato famine, Endentured Servitude
(another word for slavery), debitor's prison, scalp bounties (both in
North
American and for Australian Aborigines), press
gangs (ship's crews). Then
go see American Revolution!
Now do you REALLY want to get into a debate about English colonial
past????
My 2 cents worth,
Joe
I think the British did outlaw outright slavery before we did in the US (not
sure what their reason would be). reparations for slavery, since it was black people in
Africa enslaving other
blacks in the first place, the brits just provided shipping to get them here
to the US.
When and IF they ever find a black in america that WAS a slave then he or
she might be entitled to reparations but their descendents have no grounds
for asking for reparations. In fact, perhaps we should bill them for the
war that was fought to free them from slavery (if you believe the popular
history). In addition many of the people that are asking for them have
migrated to the US SINCE the end of the civil war but they think that just
because they're black they're entitled to a free handout.
FWIW slavery is still alive and well in Africa today.
Personally I don't think people alive today have any reason to bitch about
what happened to any of their people or relatives that were not alive when
they were born.
AGREED! I expect everyone on earth has a gripe about something in
their part. The Irish do, The American Indians and Australian Aborigines
certainly do and those are only a couple of the more recent events.
Joe
Ancient history is just that, history. look at what has
happened in the Balkans over the last 100 years, people
avenging things that
happened centuries before they or anybody they ever met was born. What would
you tell an American Indian that comes to your door saying he legally owns
the land your house was built on because his tribe was not paid for it 150
years ago? If the Vietnamese can forgive us for what we did in their country
30+ years ago the rest of the world can forgive what happened 1000 years
ago.