----- Original Message -----
From: "William Donzelli" <wdonzelli at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Latest eBay seller BS
The only thing
I would like to see is a way of booting sellers using
shills.
Every auction since some ancient Greek wanted the enhance the price of
his sheep has had shills. Ebay does kick shills off when they catch
them - they just do not advertise an account cancellation as "Caught
Shilling". "Administrative Cancellation" sounds more sterile but safe
for business.
And as well seasoned veteran, my observation is that the whole shill
concern is quite overblown. It is just not nearly as common as some
would like to believe. It is easy to blame a shill than to come to
grips that lots of others with deep pockets like this stuff as well.
--
Will
I don't bid on rarities against people with deep pockets, I use ebay for
relatively common things I need to fix/finish some project or other. When I
bid on something like a junker Pentium laptop I wanted for parts that nobody
else has bid on 2 days left in the auction and 5 minutes later some recent
account with under 5 feedback incrementally bids until they top my bid
something is fishy. Every time I seen an auction for some common item going
for 5x what it should there is some new account with under 5 feedback doing
the same crap to every bidder (and usually there are 2 new accounts with low
feedback fighting over it). Sure you can say its some new people on ebay in
a bidding war, but this isn't 2001 anymore and that just doesn't happen very
often. Then a week later the same item/picture is relisted hoping for
somebody to bid on it and get it cheaper then the last final fake price.
There are usually enough real bidders to drive up prices for very uncommon
stuff so shilling isn't needed. The low end stuff is flooded with cheap BIN
auctions. Seems like larger (too big to ship from Asia cheaply) commodity
stuff is where sellers want to double their profit and do shilling.