Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:47:10 +0000> From:
ethan.dicks at usap.gov> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: how to connect a
DECprinter I (LA180) ?> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 06:59:28PM +0100, Henk Gooijen
wrote:> > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:44:33 +0000> From: ethan.dicks at
usap.gov>> > Henk,> > Something is wrong with your mail settings - you
quoted my message> on a single smashed-up line.> > > Thanks Ethan! That was
very informative information!> > You are quite wlecome.> > > True, that
blue BERG header is very common, but I ASSumed that> > the printer had a serial
interface, which made me think that it> > *could* resemble the DL11 connector.>
> The LA-120 (DECwriter/printer III) is serial, as is the LA-36, and> a bunch of
other LA-xxx printers. I think the LA-180 might be> unique in its naming series to be
parallel.> > > I did not know that the LP11 interface can be used to connect>
> the LA180, but that is great news. I know for sure that I have at> > least two
LP11 UNIBUS modules (M7258)...> > Perfect.> > > and I will check my
cable> > storage in the attick. I vaguely remember that I have a cable for> >
the LP11!> > If you don't have a round cable, you can use a pin-1-to-pin-1>
40-pin flat cable. That's what I did for my LPV-11 in 1986.> It was much cheaper to
buy meters of bulk cable and two IDC ends> than to get a "real" cable from a
DEC reseller.> > > One day, I might put the other LP11 interface in my
VAX-11/750...!> > I seem to recall doing that myself in the late 1980s, under VMS
4.6,> but we also had a "real" line printer we hung off of a DMF-32 DC-37>
parallel-out port (sorta like the DKC8AA trick with a PDP-8/a). I> think we had an LP25
at the end of that cable, or an LP26. Either> way, it was a DEC-badged Dataproducts
printer that I wasn't able> to rescue when the company folded in the early 1990s -
too large> and way too worn out (I'd been limping it along for over 4 years> at
that point).> > ...but I think we did have the LA-180 on the VAX as a backup for>
when the ribbon feeder or the paper tractors would freak out on our> line printer. It
probably died 3 or 4 times a year, requiring> parts or extended cleaning/tweaking. We
ran box after box of> paper through that thing.> > As I said previously, the
LA-180 works with PDP-8s, PDP-11s> and VAXen, plus with a single-chip interface (a few
inverters),> it's possible to hook that same printer up to a "modern">
machine with a parallel port (Amiga, PC...)> > -ethan> > -- > Ethan Dicks,
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I am using webmail, but it seems that it uses the Outlook Express settings.
I hope this is not garbbling everyting into one long unreadable line.
I have found the two M7258, and downloaded the LP11 user's manual.
Had to go to the attick twice, because the etch on the M7258 says LS11,
*not* LP11, so I thought I did not remember the M-number correctly :-)
I even found the round cable with headers at both ends *and* text on
it written that says "LA180". Now, that *must* be the right cable!
The combination of the LA180 with an M7258 is called LA11.
I checked the jumpers on the M7258. It is set for LA180 operation, so
after cleaning the cable (very dirty!) I hope to print some lines tomorrow!
Perhaps I will shoot some pictures to "upgrade" my peripherals pages :-)
The second M7258 is jumpered differently, so it was used with one of the
other printers mentioned in the user's manual. I even found a third M7258
with a single height board connected via 2" flat cable directly to the BERG
header on the M7258. The M-number of that single height module is M59??
Sorry, I forgot the last 2 digits. If somebody needs to know, I will go up
the attick for a third time :-)
Thanks for sharing experiences from the past Ethan. I always love to read
those stories.
- Henk.
(keeping fingers crossed that quoted text stays in neat lines...)