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Sent: 02 April 2022 11:58
To: 'Noel Chiappa' <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>; 'General Discussion:
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Subject: RE: PDP 11/24 - A Step Backwards
Disconnect the bad ACLO, power it on, and see if the CLK LED comes on.
if not, then we'll have to work out why not.
This is my plan for later today.
OK, so I disconnected ACLO only. It was quite a struggle to separate those
nylon connectors, is there a trick to it? In doing so I spotted two
backplane wire wrap pins touching and a couple of others that were quite
close too, so I separated them and inspected all the backplane pins. I
didn't see any other ones touching. When I powered on, the CPU LEDs did not
light up. Some random characters appeared on the console, but probably just
a bit of noise maybe? However, I did notice that the CLK LED flickered on
briefly when I powered it off. I put a scope probe on TP1 (p152 of the PDF),
there was no activity, the pin remained high.
The problem now is that I expect I will need to probe various pins to find
out what is going on. But I don't have a Unibus extender and I am reluctant
to remove the backplane. From what I can tell in the Technical Manual you
can't install the CPU in other slots to make room for attaching probes
either. I am forced to tack solder probe wires to the chips, which works but
is time consuming. Any other ways?
Using tack soldered wires, I have traced back and I *think* I have found
something. There could be a fault in E52 (sheet K6, p157 of the PDF). While
K6 BUS DCLO L is +5V, I am measuring K6 BUF DCLO H at an average 1.64V with
50us spikes at 2.08V. According to a NatSemi datasheet for the DS8641
(
http://pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheet/nationalsemiconductor/DS005806.PD
F) the logical 0 output should be 0.4V max and the logical 1 output should
be 2.4V min. I also measured K6 BUF DCLO L to be always low, suggesting it
thinks the K6 BUF DCLO H is a logical 1. This seems to suggest that E52 may
be faulty. Trace here:
https://rjarratt.files.wordpress.com/2022/04/e52-dclo-signal.jpg.
Regards
Rob
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> Noel