On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Can anyone give a resonable justification fo
that answer. I actualyl
can';t think of anythign the Mac was 'first' for.
First consumer machine with a 3.5" floppy (and/or no 5.25" floppy in
Was it? I thoght the HP150 predated it (although I guess you could
configure an HP150 with 5.25" drives).
the era of floppies being standard)? First consumer
machine with
bit-mapped-only video (no text mode)? First consumer machine that
What do you mean by 'consumer' here? I you mean 'sold to anyone who'd buy
it' then the PERQ certain;y predates it.
100% shipped with a mouse?
And yes, we've debated what the 'first
PC' was many times. It depends on
what a 'PC' is.
Yes, we have. It's all about what criteria are selected.
Of course. You need to define 'personal' and 'computer'. Do programmable
calcualtors cunnt [1] for example?
[1] No, not i nthe sense of incrementing a regiser :-)
I'll go for the HP9830, being the first
all-in-one
machine that ran a high-level language from ROM. You put it on a desk,
plugged it into the mains and started programming.
That certainly meets several of the typical criteria. I personally
feel that high-level-language in ROM is not a defining characteristic,
The HP9830 was, I belive , the fist machine where you just bought it,
plugged in itno the mains nad used it. Nothing more to buy, no stoage
meadia to insert, etc.
It's _one_ candidate, sure. There are plenty of others, and there;s
nothign wrong with pickign one of those if you define the cretia
appropriately. I think we all agree that the personal computer of today
comes from a long line of machines and it's not clear which of those is
thefirst personal computer.
-tony