15 Aug
2011
15 Aug
'11
1:29 p.m.
The bit where I completely agree with you is the compensation culture, get
rid of that and I would have little to complain about. The real villains in
my view are the lawyers.
Regards
Rob
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On 15/08/2011 17:53, Rob Jarratt wrote:
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Fine, but you were allowed out into the playground weren't you? You
could make slides in the snow couldn't you? They won't even let them
outside now!
Whilst I don't have chidren so have no experience of this, I find it hard believe that this is applied everywhere.
So where do you draw the line then ? Company car does not neseserraly
mean single occupant. By banning it outright there's no ambiguity.
Besides I believe that you are also by law meant to take regular breaks
when
That's nothing to do with H&S, that's to do with the smoking in
public
places
law, which makes it an offense to smoke in an
enclosed public space
or workplace. I guess non-smokers have a right to not be exposed to
harmfull substances whilst doing their job.
And why do we have that law, it is as you say, to protect people's
health, but it is taken to extremes when it applies to company cars. driving, smoking can be done in those breaks.
Then they should educate themselves, and take advice from those in the
know. Of course the real problem here is the 'compensation culture' we
seem
There are
also a lot of people that don't know what they talk about
and
site
H&S as the reason. The reason for this is
that there is a lot of
misconception
about H&S. H&S law doesn't say that
you have to prevent every
possible
risk,
But that is how it is interpreted by many people, and also just the
worry of getting a letter from a legal firm and having to justify
yourself is something many people don't want to be bothered with, so
they just ban everything. to have at the moment where everything has to be
someone else's fault, get
rid of that and most of the supposed problems disappear.
Show documentation to the fact that the things had been checked before
hanging as being fit for purpose and that the situation had been
risk-assessed.
just that
you have to minimise them whenever possible, and that
anyone taking a risk for whatever reason should be fully aware of it.
In the above case as long as said council had done all it reasonably
could
to
ensure that said hanging baskets where well
maintained then they
shouldn't have a problem.
OK, but what would they have to do to prove it?
I'm sorry I'm not going to bow down to the dogma of 'all H&S is
bad'.
For some of the myths surrounding h&s the HSE website is quite good :
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/
Cheers.
Phill.
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Phill Harvey-Smith, Programmer, Hardware hacker, and general eccentric !
"You can twist perceptions, but reality won't budge" -- Rush.