Regarding PDP-11/ and rt11 too

9 Oct 1998

...
  The question is
however is there something else?  I know fuzzball is 
around but I don't know if that is a option for most -11 users. I don't
think so, since some of Fuzzball, if I remember correctly,
is built under RT-11 and runs under RT-11.  I don't think I've seen
a Fuzzball system which was entirely self-bootable.  (Maybe John
Wilson can answer, since he's done some stuff with it). 
John Wilson does have self-bootable Fuzzball images on ftp.dbit.com,
in /pub/pdp11/fuzzball.

Fuzzball is an "operating system" of sorts, but you can't do development
with it unless you have the RT-11 macro assembler, linker, and other
program development tools, so there isn't a lot of interesting stuff
you can do with it unless you've also got a RT-11 license.

TSX+ is pretty much the same way - without the RT-11 utilities you're
dead in the water.

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Regarding PDP-11/ and rt11 too