21 Jan
2017
21 Jan
'17
12:37 p.m.
On 21/01/2017 17:30, "dwight" <dkelvey at hotmail.com> wrote:
It is possible that it is the phone side of the system
that is
hanging it up ( no pun intended ).
A while back, I purchased about 12 broken phone modems for
about $2. I found out that all the boards had suffered lightning
damage. Various parts on each board were blown. There was
no consistency. I believe I recovered about 5 boards by combining
the good parts.
The reason I mention this is that it seems your board has had
more than one part fail. It is possible that it was lightning
damaged.
I agree, it's also been wet and I don't know if that was pre-failure or just
an effect of long term storage. There are also some (I assume) voice
components like a -24V regulator (MC79L24A) that aren't getting power, I've
just looked at the transformer that feeds it and that doesn't appear to be
working.
I'll post a separate pic of that.
If so, it could be that one of the chips has sent an
interrupt to
the processor but not hand shaking when the processor is
asking for data from the modem.
Just a though.
The modem in this case is an SAA5070 "LUCY" chip which I guess I can't
easily test or even source a known working spare if it turns out to be
faulty :/
Cheers
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From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of Adrian Graham
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:27:06 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: 8085 IO ports
Back to the Executel after a few days relaxing :)
On 17/01/2017 20:59, "Tony Duell" <ard.p850ug1 at gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think I'll touch them, they're obviously part of the phone subsystem
and I doubt I'll ever plug it into a phone line - I have several One Per
Desks for that sort of thing if needs be.
I remember becoming aware recently that it USED to look like it was reading
all four ROMs but now just pulses ROM1. I'm still chasing down one
particular clock source because there's a flip-flop LS74 that isn't getting
anything at all, it's fed from an LS21 and an LS139 decoder which in turn is
fed by A4 and A5 on the address bus. Having the whole board drawn out with
all its connections is one thing but I need to put it into a logical
schematic order.
I can trigger it on the RD signal yes. There's 2 LS373s which both had dead
inputs so I replaced those and made sure the signals were correct at all
outputs. I'll have to lose A15 to latch onto RD (only 16 channels) but I'll
give it a go.
Cheers!
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Yep, on
the left two. I haven't dared to pull them from the board though
even though they're socketed.
Do be careful, the substrate is a brittle ceramic material... be seen
on both the built-in TV and my external CUB despite lack of sync is
for all intents and purposes random crap which again makes me think
something isn't initialising properly.
Yes. It sounds like the processor is not initialising the video system,
clearing video RAM, etc.
Now either the processor is waiting for an interrupt (but from what)? or
ir's not running the right code. CPU trouble, ROM troublem, RAM
trouble, address decoder trouble? I have, a
small 16 channel one that's Saleae Logic compatible so I'm slowly
learning how to drive that too. I should be able to decode addresses and
suchlike using it shouldn't I.
Can you clock the analyser from an external input rather than sampling
every 10us or whatever? If so, clock it from the Rd/ signal and grab the
16 address lines (8 on the processor pins, 8 on an address latch, most
likely a 74LS373, which you will have to find!). Now you can see the
sequence of locations that the CPU is reading. Most (but not all) will be
instructions. Find one, compare with the listing, see if the sequence makes
sense.