On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Mouse <mouse at
Rodents-Montreal.ORG> wrote:
What team were you on? Wouldn?t want the Kaz,
Roms or Bugs to get
this kind of information..
(Actually, I most often played R.)
<<acutally I don?t know either..
sorry>>
I built an attempt to recreate it based on decade-old memories sometime
in the late '80s, which I recently dusted off (for those with git and
curiosity,
git://git.rodents-montreal.org/Mouse/games/0empire should be
clonable). Looking at the screenshots, though, it's interesting how
much I'd obviously forgotten, and the text there makes it clear there's
also a lot more I never knew.
The main reason I'm interested in the source to Empire is to make my
recreation of it behave more like the original. I'm not trying for a
total clone - if that's what I were after I'd be looking for a PLATO
simulator to run the original on - but something that feels not too
unlike it while still being recognizably a little more modern (for
example, using finer resolution on the display). This is obviously a
balancing act?.
The 0 prefix in the lesson name indicates a ?published lesson? ? which means a frozen copy
of the original made by CDC and distributed as part of the PLATO distribution. The
original name was ?empire? and it became famous under that name at its original home,
University of Illinois PLATO.
As for PLATO simulation, there is one, which John mentions (cyber1). That consists of the
CDC 6000 emulator ?DtCyber? by Tom Hunter, plus a copy of PLATO authorized by its current
owners and taken from the last known production PLATO system, plus some additional lessons
(programs) recovered from various archives. It connects to terminals ? either real PLATO
terminals or an emulation program ?pterm? over TCP connections. Access is available to
all, on request, see the website
cyber1.org for details.
That said, the copies of empire on that system (there?s a 0empire and an empire) are not
set for open source ?open inspect? access. I had not seen John?s comment about open
source. Possibly he intended to make the sources visible at some other location. If he
wants the copy on cyber1 to be open-inspect, that?s easy to do but it would require a
specific note from him to the cyber1 admins (of which I?m one) to authorize the change.
paul