31 Jul
2013
31 Jul
'13
11:42 p.m.
On 2013 Jul 30, at 2:00 PM, Jonas Otter wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:38:42 -0700, Brent Hilpert
<hilpert at cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
Pretty much everything you have said in there about the thread
history is incorrect. This is such a gross misrepresentation of the
thread that I can only say you have exposed yourself, Jonas. The only
way you could come up with such an unbalanced reading, and
conclusions, is from a point of utter bias. You like to think you're
being generous and civil and tolerant. You're not. You have a very
naive and misguided notion of such. You need to go examine not just
the facts, but your principles and judgement, and come back when
you're prepared to apologise.
You said you didn't want to get involved and not to do this in
public, but you've chosen to become the antagonist and pursue it in
public. You should apologise to me in public but besides that, don't
bother dragging this out further in public, you'll just make a bigger
hypocrite of yourself.
I'd say I've been pretty fair to Tony,
but I'm not about to patronise
him. There are plenty of people on the list who do that. It's
tiresome watching people such as yourself make excuses for him and
"cut him slack" and then proceed to beat up on the individual who was
trying to be reasonable about it and was actually the 'aggrieved
party'. Knowing the list, I predicted that would happen, although not
from you.
And as I also said (it gets tiresome having to repeat oneself) near
the beginning of this mess, it's all been a nuisance. I'd like to get
back to useful work.
This whole thing started when Tony asked why you REd whatever
machine it was, when he had already done so, and there is a lot of
other equipment that needs reverse engineering. That set you off on
a rant about mistakes Tony had made, how many machines you had REd
etc etc. If you had just counted to 10 before replying, and instead
asked Tony what he meant, the whole thing could have been kept to a
civil level. Instead it all degenerated into some kind of pissing
contest. You did actually come across as feeling threatened, not as
being reasonable. You made yourself the aggrieved party by your
knee-jerk reaction.
Unless Tony writes one thing and means something completely
different, if you read his responses, it does rather look as if you
have misunderstood him and gone off the deep end. I'm sorry, but
you started this fight yourself.