15 Aug
2011
15 Aug
'11
10:22 a.m.
On 15/08/2011 17:53, Rob Jarratt wrote:
So where do you draw the line then ? Company car does not neseserraly
mean single occupant. By banning it outright there's no ambiguity.
Besides I believe that you are also by law meant to take regular breaks
when driving, smoking can be done in those breaks.
Then they should educate themselves, and take advice from those in the
know. Of course the real problem here is the 'compensation culture' we
seem to have at the moment where everything has to be someone else's
fault, get rid of that and most of the supposed problems disappear.
Show documentation to the fact that the things had been checked before
hanging as being fit for purpose and that the situation had been
risk-assessed.
I'm sorry I'm not going to bow down to the dogma of 'all H&S is bad'.
For some of the myths surrounding h&s the HSE website is quite good :
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/
Cheers.
Phill.
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Phill Harvey-Smith, Programmer, Hardware hacker, and general eccentric !
"You can twist perceptions, but reality won't budge" -- Rush.
Fine, but you were allowed out into the playground weren't you? You could
make slides in the snow couldn't you? They won't even let them outside now!
Whilst I don't have chidren so have no experience of this, I find it
hard to believe that this is applied everywhere.
That's
nothing to do with H&S, that's to do with the smoking in public
places
law, which makes it an offense to smoke in an
enclosed public space or
workplace. I guess non-smokers have a right to not be exposed to harmfull
substances whilst doing their job.
And why do we have that law, it is as you say, to protect people's health,
but it is taken to extremes when it applies to company cars. There are also
a lot of people that don't know what they talk about and
site
H&S as the reason. The reason for this is
that there is a lot of
misconception
about H&S. H&S law doesn't say that
you have to prevent every possible
risk,
But that is how it is interpreted by many people, and also just the worry of
getting a letter from a legal firm and having to justify yourself is
something many people don't want to be bothered with, so they just ban
everything. just that you
have to minimise them whenever possible, and that anyone
taking a risk for whatever reason should be fully aware of it.
In the above case as long as said council had done all it reasonably could
to
ensure that said hanging baskets where well
maintained then they shouldn't
have a problem.
OK, but what would they have to do to prove it?