1 Sep
2004
1 Sep
'04
4:24 p.m.
call him up and discuss it ... let him yell for a while and then still
offer an olive branch... this sometimes works...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Carder" <wacarder(a)usit.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: Does the name 'Ed Kelleher' ring any bells?
I too have dealt with Ed and found him to be extremely
nice
and easy to deal with. His office is near where I live and
work and I've been by there to do some old DEC equipment dealing
with him. I have been very satisfied with our transactions and
he went out of his way to give me a few extra items each time I
visited him. Perhaps there is some misunderstanding with the
email situation.
I do understand the spam issues, as I ran my own mail server
for several years, but ultimately decided to let the ISP do
it because it became a maintenance issue and I was too busy.
As for Ed's systems that he is selling online, there seems to be
a market for what he is building and testing, and he has to earn
a living, so more power to him if he can get what he's asking
for those DEC systems. It has to do with the rules of supply
and demand. I have been known to pay a higher price for an
old system if it is built and pre-tested by another person who
is more experienced than I am. Alternatively, if I'm going to
attempt to test or assemble an old system myself, I will pay
less for the componentsor system. In the first example, I am
willing to pay a premium for the other person's time and expertise.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Lyle Bickley
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:35 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Does the name 'Ed Kelleher' ring any bells?
I've done business with Ed on a number of occasions and found him
to be easy
to deal with, honest and resonable. I've never had a situation
with Ed where
I couldn't reach him or vice-versa.
I'm a big fan of SpamAssassin - which both protects my firm from
SPAM as well
as giving me a great deal of flexibility regarding SPAM control.
I've not
found it wise to blacklist an entire domain - I prefer much finer
controls.
BTW, with tweaking, I get less than 0.5% of SPAM per day - with no false
positives.
Lyle
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 19:11, Bruce Lane wrote:
Fellow computer tinkerers,
I had a recent E-mail exchange with a fellow named Ed
Kelleher, apparently
the president of a company called
'Macro-Inc.com.' They appear to sell
overpriced (to my eyes, anyway) DEC systems and parts.
What had happened was that I had found, in my mail server
logs, entries
which showed that Mr. Kelleher had tried to send
me something,
only to have
it bounced repeatedly due to the fact that
I'm currently
blocking traffic
from the biz.rr.com domain (this last due to
RR.Com's utter lack of
response to ongoing spam, port probes, and other abuse coming from
their
network).
I sent him a polite note advising him of what I'd found,
and asking him to
please re-send the message to my backup address,
which is not
spam-filtered
in any way that I know of.
It worked -- sort of. I got back a very terse -- I would
actually call it
rude -- reply to the effect that he'd tried
to send whatever he
was sending
five times, with and without attachments, and had
finally given
up. In his
words "I don't care to send it again.
Stupid policy of yours."
This tells me right away that he has absolutely no concept
of what I, as a
self-hosted SysAdmin, go through each and every
DAY, trying to
protect my
network effectively against outside abuse.
That point aside, I sent back another polite request,
saying that I'm
sorry he felt that way, and asking that he please
not blame me for
doing
what I felt necessary to protect my tiny corner of the Internet. I also
asked him if he would consider at least telling me what it was he was
trying to send.
No response yet, of course. I'm not sure I'll ever see one.
Based on what
I saw of his company's web site, though, I
suspect that what he
had to send
may have been of minimal value in any case
(possibly even spam).
Has anyone on the list had any contact with this person or
his company?
The vast majority of people that I've asked to re-send
their original
message have no problem with it, and are fully
understanding of
why their
initial attempts might have been blocked.
What's gotten into this
fellow
that he can't seem to understand the view from my side, especially
considering that he sells (and presumably works with) computer goodies?
Insights and opinions welcomed. Thanks much.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with
surreal ports?"
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"