In article <20120823164805.GB1866 at zoho.com>,
microcode at
zoho.com writes:
Ill-formatted, true. Generic, well, I don't think
he is a native English
speaker and that makes it a lot harder.
By generic, I mean that it didn't address me and my interests as an
individual, it was a form letter. English aside, had the person taken
the time to comment about my cctalk-related interests before asking for
a job, I would have spent more time reading it.
This is basic job-seeking advice. When you "cold call" someone asking
for a job, sending a form letter doesn't indear you to the recipient.
If you take the time (and since you're unemployed, you should have
plenty of it) to customize the cover letter to the recipient, they pay
attention.
If it's a company and you show in your cover letter that you've researched
the company's products and are telling them specifically why you could
help them out with their existing product line and potential future
products, that gets their attention.
If it's an individual like me and you show in your email that you've
been paying attention to the kinds of things I say on the mailing list
(or you bothered to do some googling to see what kinds of things I say
on the mailing list) and that you have skills that I would recognize,
then I'm paying attention.
When it's a form letter, I stop reading.
How's your Ukranian?
Non-existent. However, if the situation were reversed and the Ukraine
was booming and I needed a job, you can be damned sure I'd customize
the cover letter and have someone who *did* have good Ukrainian review
my letter before I sent it to make sure I didn't have any typos or
grammatical mistakes. But you miss my point about "generic", I am not
nitpicking his spelling or grammar, which seemed fine, but it would be
another point working against him if the email contained spelling or
grammar errors.
<http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/07/i_wont_hire_people_who_use_poo.html>
I happen to
work at a company that is aggressively hiring, but not for
people in the Ukraine. (Seriously? You're emailing me from the other
side of the globe asking for work?)
Why not? It's a global market.
Because we don't have an office in the Ukraine. If you want to be a
telecommuting long-distance team member, you better stand out and show
why a company is going to take a gamble on you. Sending a poorly
formatted form letter is not the way to make that stand out
impression. Modern technology work is a team effort. Being part of a
team means being available at the same working hours as the rest of
the team, which isn't feasible when you're on the other side of the
globe. If all you wanted was a lone individual coder position, then you
don't need to send a personal plea to my inbox, all you need to do is
to start subscribing to the websites devoted to connecting such
contractor types with available work.
My remarks have got nothing to do with Ukraine, but with it's time
zone distance from where the work is and the fact that most work is
team based, not lone individual based. If the request came from
Argentina or someplace in South America, that would at least address
the time-zone difference, but there's also something to be said for
being in the same physical office. It's not like this is someone I've
worked with (or hell even had a *conversation* with) before and I can
vouch for them. This is basically a complete stranger approaching me
and asking me for a job. They want *me* to do them a favor. They
could be the best worker ever, or they could be a complete scumbag
liar child molester. I have no way of knowing the truth of the
matter.
I think it would be a good idea if people are working
for companies that are
hiring to at least mention on the list what they are looking for.
I'm on this list for my own personal reasons, it doesn't have anything
to do with my employer. (You'll notice that in my signature, personal
web site, museum web site, manx, terminals wiki, etc., nowhere do I
mention my employer. Since joining this list in 2005-ish, I've
switched employers 3 times. I don't think I've never mentioned any of
my employers by name in my conversations here, but you might be able
to turn up the odd message or two where I do.)
Given where I live (Salt Lake City) and so far having found like...
uh... 2 people on this mailing list who are even in the same state, I
don't go pimping job opportunities here. Like it or not, most work is
still accelerated by being physically in the same room. If you're
distant, you need even *better* communication and interpersonal skills
than the average person, never mind the average engineer, to make up
the difference.
I've made a number of personal friends from this mailing list over the
years; if one of them asked me about job opportunities in private
email, my response would be much different than ignoring the email
from this guy in the Ukraine I've never heard of
before. Even there,
I've given plenty of practical job-seeking advice in the
two messages
I've posted this thread.
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