>Giving out your phone number to people who are not
already qualified as
>serious buyers gets you middle of the night phone calls from people who
>"goofed on the time zone", "just got back from the evening", or
>that EVERYBODY is up by 06:00 Sunday.
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, John Foust wrote:
I know you're "grumpy", but that's
YOU WOULD BE, TOO, if you posted your hours and conditions, and people
called you at inappropriate times.
I fished for his digits because I wanted to help
people avoid him.
I had no intention of buying a Tandy laptop.
AND, you were, at that point a "qualified serious buyer".
Yes, you DO give out contact information to people who are interested.
This guy is already targeting oddball classic computer
it's not like he's including his address and phone number in
a Craigslist ad.
To SOME extent, then anybody here would be a "qualified" buyer.
People selling stuff are motivated to do so. They are
willing to put up
with a few phone calls. The average person has a cell phone for this
sort of work. There's nothing forcing them to answer the phone or
even respond to a voice mail, unless of course they're motivated
to sell, which is obviously the case here.
Yes, it IS the case HERE. But, you are
telling me that if I want to sell
things, that I have an obligation to get ANOTHER phone, just so I don't
have to answer it at inappropriate times?
Dinging around with an exchange of a dozen emails to
answer my questions
is a lot of work, too.
By which time, it WAS appropriate to give you better contact information.
I posted my van foir sale on an enthusiast forum. I got a dozen VERY
enthusiastic emails, all of which I followed up on.
I did NOT follow up on
nor on the ones SIX MONTHS LATER, saying "Still got it?"
but I responded to "What's your phone#? I want to talk about the car."
with "What would you like to know about it? Are there any details that
you need? I'll be showing it on Saturday at 13:00"
You want effortless sales? Your grumpiness reminds me
of the old adage
"Business would be a lot of fun if it weren't for all those pesky
No, grumpiness comes from ASSHOLE messages like YOUR ad hominem current
Selling a laundry list of old computer crap for $40 a
pop isn't the
most sensible way to make money. It's going to take some effort.
If he wanted to save effort, he's hand it to the scrapper.
A little hard to be sure of HIS exact motivations.
The good guys selling old computer crap? They're
by a personal sense of satisfaction that their stuff will find a
new home with someone who will appreciate it.
Think he's grumpy, too?
He's an asshole, like you are currently being.
If I were a scammer, I bet being grumpy would
be my second approach if someone didn't fall for my first excuse as
to why the goods weren't as promised. Unpleasantness can make
people stop bothering you. "Once you get their money, never give it back."
A Scammer's approach is to be their "best buddy"!
Yes, you need to sometimes put up with some hassles when selling things.
That's why I usually give the stuff away, instead.
Giving out too much contact information to total strangers, before even
discussing what they want is an open invitation to ridiculous levels of
Do you know WHY auto mechanics don't give out their home phone numbers?
Yes, some of it is to be able to cut off access to disgruntled
ex-customers. But it is ALSO to cut off access to "Hi! Did I wake you?
You don't know me, but I heard that you are really good. My car is broken
down on the freeway, and it'll cost $25 to get it towed to the garage!
That's too much! So, could you come out here and fix it?"
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com