26 Sep
2011
26 Sep
'11
2:34 p.m.
everything in the computer world gets "cheaper". That means different things in
different instances. Toshiba makes an extremely reliable product (laptops anyway) for as
low a price as you can get. They don't last forever, but what could you really expect
for 300$ or so (Mind you I'm not a die hard Japanese anything fan. I still think the
best value in cars is American (uh, prior to 08 anyway ;). As long as it isn't
can't afFord or Crys(is)ler. My mother's Honda isn't anymore reliable then the
*'s I've owned through the years. Not at all). Was HPs quality sustainable? They
started off awfully small. In the beginning undoubtedly there business was a labor of
love.
Yep nowadays their products basically suck. I've owned a Touchsmart pentop for 2
years now, and chances are it should have been dead by now (save for the fact that it has
under 500 hours of use). I thought I heard a buzzing a few days ago, no not my h/d,
already. But I'm not sure who the manufacturer of that is.
I'm finally finding time to play w/my HP calcs. Nothing historic really, my 49g and
50g. I love them both unconditionally. Wouldn't mind at all picking up a 41CX (any
condition - e-mail me). Kind of got a hankering for a 48GX too, but that was when there
quality was going down. I bought my father a 20B or something while he was still alive.
Damned thing didn't hold up for a year. I looooved my old 20S. Left it on top of the
car though, unfortunately, and forgot I did.
--- On Sat, 9/24/11, joe lobocki <jlobocki at gmail.com> wrote:
It is probably better that way. Over
the past 8 years or so I have seen HP
disintegrate in the PC market. They started going super
cheap on parts and
quality, that it seems they spent more on class actions and
recalls.
Example, I worked on a dv6000 that was notorious for the
video chip failing
due to bad heatsinks. It even went back to them under the
recall for them to
clean and reset it. I had to flatten out a small piece of
copper water pipe,
cut it in a square, and shim it between the video chipset
and the heatsink
with grease between it to get the computer to stop
throttling the fans and
freezing.
My personal zv6000 is actually down right now because it
needs some
soldering. They came up with a really crappy proprietary
power supply plug
that the solder joints heat to the point they oxidize and
fail (they are
small joints handling quite a bit of power) until they are
resoldered. I've
replaced the connector once because the pins failed on the
old one. I've
also gone through 5 power adapters. The first two stock, I
started buying
cheap china ones only to find they fail less than the OEM
models. I had
heard of a class action starting up on these connectors a
while back but
seems they failed.
I also had 2 hp desktops that worked great until the caps
blew up on them.
Basically they took what was once a good solid quality name
and product and
disected the life out of it while jumping on as many new
ideas and companies
as they could until they had nothing left. The greed got
the better of them.
Sad really. But that is every company now and we pay for
it.
When I hears the 'HP are pulling out of
computers'
news, I tohught for
about 1ms 'Oh good... They can go and make
top-qulaity
measuring
instruments again'. Then of course I realised
that was
not going to
happen :-(
-tony