28 Dec
2015
28 Dec
'15
11:34 p.m.
On 2015-Dec-28, at 6:10 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
On 12/28/2015 2:06 AM, jwsmobile wrote:
I didn't recognise the title at first, watched it and realised I had watched it
previously.
Sure was a snapshot of the time - even a trip to Radio Shack.
Even had a sexy shower scene.
In 1985 I was setting up our new email system at CERN, and the email system had a security
flaw that allowed the users' mail access passwords to be seen.
This in of itself wasn't too big deal as there was little a hacker could do with it
(only get access to mail pickup, and you'd need a system that talked X.400, which
weren't prevalent).
What made it a big security problem, of course, was that users tended to use their login
password for their mail password, so once the hackers uncovered the mail password they
ipso-facto often got a login password.
The hacking was noticed and I was told they were networking in from Germany.
Given the commonalities: time proximity (85-86), hacker source (Germany) and hacking
targets (HEP/nuclear/research community), I wonder now if it was the same group of
hackers.
On 12/28/2015 1:45 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
among the other activities mentioned here, he still gets speaking invitations to
law enforcement functions. He has a habit of showing up with a large envelope of
viewgraph slides asking for an overhead projector.
steve shumaker
(yes... I was there - the book is actually rather accurate) Hi
Anybody who has not seen this film (The KGB, the Computer, and Me)
its worth a look. 1980's DEC systems everywhere, LSI terminals, HP kit,
Tape drives in action and apart from the Mac no Windows anywhere.
I think LBL must have bought one of everything.
The story (true) is not bad either.
I now expect to get a long list of weveseenits.
Ron
I have not seen that, but have the Stoll Book, Cuckoo's Egg. A friend of
mine is central to this, and is in the book (though I've not seen him for 30
years...)
Ron Vivier was a programmer @ Microdata for a couple of years before leaving and moving
to the Bay area and resurfacing @ Tymnet. There was a lull for a bit then all of a sudden
the story about Stoll trapping the guy made headlines, and there in the front of it was
Ron. He did what I'd have expected him to do, but the people covering the story
didn't get that was in his nature to help like that.
I ended up with the desk cleanout droppings from his desk and kept most of it for years,
and still owe him a chess clock (which is around here somewhere). Still has his name
dymo'ed on the top.
I found the video you posted about, will take a look tomorrow, late here tonight. thanks
for the lead. Wonder what Stoll is up to these days.
Thanks
Jim