5 Dec
2021
5 Dec
'21
9:29 a.m.
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 8:57 AM Chris Long via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
The fact I don?t think it is necessary for a Lego set
specifically
endorsing the role of women in computing is unpleasant or mean spirited?
That's not what your initial response said, and you know it. You can
backpedal all you want. Rather than starting an actual discussion of the
merits of the project you replied flippantly, using the word "woke" to
completely dismiss the project, with all the weight that word connotes.
Get a life Liam. I simply expressed my view.
Are we really at a state on this list where when someone posts mentioning
something, that anyone who expresses any alternative view is behaving
unacceptably?
Nope. You know this, too.
Talk about snowflakes.
There you go again.
- Josh
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Subject: Re: Women of Computing
On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 at 16:09, Doc Shipley via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 12/4/21 12:37, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
I suspect that was the plan.
Chris Long's email was nasty, unpleasant and a mean-spirited and
unpleasant thing to say. The fact that they felt the need to say it on a
public forum indicates either that they do not care what other people feel,
or that they wanted to cause offence.
When someone is so insensitive that they do not understand that their
words can hurt others, then sometimes, an effective way to show to them
that words can be hurtful and that they shouldn't say mean things, is to
say something that is hurtful to them.
This can illustrate to people who do not normally care about others'
feelings that they do not like it when their own feelings are hurt.
It is, sadly, a common attribute of a certain age group, especially of old
white straight men, to give little regard to others' feelings like this.
They typically consider a waste of time any kind of affirmative action that
helps, boosts, or engages with people who are not old, white, straight and
men.
This is a bad way to behave. Nobody should act like that. It violates
Wheaton's Law, which is a basic principle of how to be a civilised human
being.
"OK, Boomer" is just a succinct and clear way of saying "you are an
unpleasant old man and we do not need to listen to your useless hurtful
opinions."
If that sounds like you, then my advice to you is not to complain about
it, but to engage with it, and learn how not to be such a person, and then
go and teach other such folk how to be better people.
If it doesn't sound like you, then you should not be bothered by it.
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OK, Boomer.
There's really no call to be nasty about it.
To those of us who are baby boomers, that usage is extremely offensive.