Pete Turnbull wrote:
On 01/05/2012 15:05, Holm Tiffe wrote:
The M8190-AB should be an KDJ11-BB 11/73 CPU. I
have an MSV11-JE (M8637-E)
PMI Memory Card too and I'm wondering if I can use them thogether..
Certainly. If you put it below the CPU, it will behave as normal QBus
memory, or if you put it above, it will work as PMI memory.
What are the differences from the KDJ11-BB to the
KDJ11-BF? Are there
pictures to look at somwhere on the net?
The final letter denotes the board revision, unlike KDF11-B where it
denotes the firmware revision. Technically at least, it has nothing to
do with PMI capability; all KDJ11-B have that. Originally, the -BF
boards sold as 11/83 (etc) used PMI memory and were all 18MHz, while the
boards (mostly -BB and -BC) sold in 11/73 systems (non-PMI QBus memory)
were only 15MHz, but either flavour will work either way. Early 11/73
boards won't work with an FPJ11 (-BB should be OK).
You mentioned the EPROM numbers in a later post. 23-395E5 and 23-396E5
aren't ones I'd heard of, though, but likely are merely later ones than
I knew of (or have copies of). I knew of V6.0, V7.0, and V8.0. Fancy
dumping the contents to a couple of files?
See
http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/DECROMs for more.
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Is that your site?
Here are the Images:
http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP11/KDJ11-BB/23-395E5.bin
http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP11/KDJ11-BB/23-396E5.bin
...looked at the data(cat 23-395E5.bin 23-396E5.bin >all.bin and vis versa)
that looks that they have mangled adress/data lines somewhat, nothing
readably there..
Same on the 23-168E5.bin and 23-169E5.bin that appears to be on Olegs
board. (see below)
I've checked something against that picture from Oleg's 11/83
in the menatime:
http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/pdp11-83/
The Board Revision (upper left) is the same, the Cache is the same,
the DC351 is the same (the DC350 is looking different, has a silver
plate, mine has a golden plate) and the DCJ11-AC is the same as on
my board (same 57-19400-04).
So I'm soldered an 18,432Mhz Xtal in (haven't found 18.00 in my
stock jet) and at least the continous selftest from the ROMs is running
flawlessly (~860 passes w/o Error).
Map is displaying 18.429 MHz CPU Options: FPA.
So I finally think there is no real difference from my KDJ11-BB to the KDJ11-BF
board, at least in my case.
Regards,
Holm
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