13 Aug
2019
13 Aug
'19
4:57 p.m.
in the late 1960s and up thru 1979 UTexas at Arlington Computer Science
initially only offered a Masters, and was housed in Industrial Engineering.
If you wanted an undergrad degree in "computing" you went thru the math
department and got a BA or BS in mathematics with an emphasis in computing.
I took a *lot* of CS classes and a couple EE tclasses to build my own CS
curriculum on top of my BS-Math.
In 1979 when I graduated I could have gotten one of the first BS in
Computer Science and Engineering instead of Math. But, I just stoop to
taking a 3-unit class for a semester in mechanical drawing which was
madnatory for engineering degrees at that time. Has never been a problem,
and I enjoyed my math classes.
Lee Courtney
Lee Courtney
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:04 PM Yeechang Lee via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Adam Thornton <athornton at gmail.com> says:
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The genealogy of Computer Science departments
(and their curricula)
(at least in the US) is also weird and historically-contingent.
Basically it seems to have been a tossup at any given school whether
it came out of the Electr[ical|onic] Engineering department, in
which case it was memories and logic gates and a bottom-up,
hardware-focused curriculum, or out of the Mathematics department,
in which case it was algorithms and complexity analysis and a
software-focused curriculum.
Yes, I've noticed the same thing. Example: Harvard's CS department is
originally from the math side, while MIT's is from EE (thus today's
EECS).
Berkeley = EE
Brown = Math
BYU = Math
Caltech = EE
Columbia = EE
Cornell = Operations research, math
Dartmouth = Math
Illinois = Math
NYU = Both (because Polytechnic developed its own CS program long
before NYU acquired it to regain an engineering school)
Penn = EE
UCLA = OR (probably because of the RAND heritage)
Caltech until very recently did not formally offer CS degrees;
students received degrees in Engineering and Applied Science, with a
focus on CS (or aeronautics, or civil, or ME).
Illinois is an example of a track we might call "other" or even
"defense". With government funding the university built its own
computers (including ILLIAC and PLATO), and the group that did so
became the CS department, but the undergraduate CS program began
within the math department. Harvard's and Penn's programs might also
qualify.
Undergraduate CS degrees are BA (Example: Harvard), BS (Example:
Penn), or both (Example: Columbia). At Penn one must be an engineering
student to major in CS. At Columbia one can major in CS in either the
liberal arts or engineering schools, but with different
curriculums. At Yale there is one undergraduate school, within which
one can receive a BA or BS in CS, with different curriculums. Cornell,
Northwestern, and Berkeley offer CS in their separate liberal arts and
engineering schools; undergraduates receive BA or BS degrees with
identical CS curriculums, with only other requirements differing.
I've read that medical schools are good at teaching either
pharmacology (drugs), or pathology (diseases); perhaps this is also
because of the expertise/specialty of their early faculty members.
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