Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:21:03 +0000> From:
ethan.dicks at usap.gov> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: how to connect a
DECprinter I (LA180) ?> > Hi, Henk,> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 08:28:22PM
+0100, Henk Gooijen wrote:> > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:47:10 +0000> From:
ethan.dicks at usap.gov>...> > > > I am using webmail, but it seems that it
uses the Outlook Express settings.> > I hope this is not garbbling everyting into
one long unreadable line.> > Not your text... just what you quote.> > > I
have found the two M7258, and downloaded the LP11 user's manual.> > Nice.>
> > Had to go to the attick twice, because the etch on the M7258 says LS11,> >
*not* LP11, so I thought I did not remember the M-number correctly :-)> >
Ah...sorry... LS11 rings a bell as a printer interface, too.> > > I even found
the round cable with headers at both ends *and* text on> > it written that says
"LA180". Now, that *must* be the right cable!> > Perfect. It's
probably like a falt cable, but only with the> essential wires run.> > > The
combination of the LA180 with an M7258 is called LA11.> > Make sense.> > >
I checked the jumpers on the M7258. It is set for LA180 operation, so> > after
cleaning the cable (very dirty!) I hope to print some lines tomorrow!> > Once you
get it checked out, one nice thing to do with an LA180 is> overstrike ASCII art.
There's a really fancy picture of a digitized> cat that I have on an OS/8 floppy
somewhere. I'm sure the data file> is out there to be grabbed.> > Use a fresh
ribbon and give it lots of time to complete. It's> stunning.> > > Perhaps
I will shoot some pictures to "upgrade" my peripherals pages :-)> > When
you do, shoot us a URL.> > > The second M7258 is jumpered differently, so it was
used with one of the> > other printers mentioned in the user's manual.> >
Since you have the manual there, out of curiosity, what other printers> does it
support? LP05 and stuff?> > > I even found a third M7258> > with a single
height board connected via 2" flat cable directly to the BERG> > header on the
M7258. The M-number of that single height module is M59??> > Sorry, I forgot the
last 2 digits. If somebody needs to know, I will go up> > the attick for a third
time :-)> > Hmm... that sounds interesting. I wonder if that's stock, or
just> something someone stuck together because it happens to fit. If I'm>
picturing it right, the only place for the signals to go are out of the> edge-fingers
of the M59xx module, right? That doesn't sound like any> Unibus thing _I_ can think
of.> > > Thanks for sharing experiences from the past Ethan. I always love to
read> > those stories.> > You're welcome. I was just in the right place at
the right time, and> managed to get my hands on a PDP-8 of my own when I was 16, and on
a> room full of PDP-11s and VAXen at work by the time I was 18. I also had> lots and
lots of hands-on experience at the time (approx 1982-1994),> building and repairing
machines (mine and my employer's) by picking up> "cheap" boxes and boards
that nobody wanted anymore. > > Once the machines were assembled and working, it was
all OS installs,> application programming, etc. I had a blast working with the
stuff> of that era. Fortunately for me, I still have piles of hardware and>
documenation that I didn't have to leave behind.> > -ethan> > -- >
Ethan Dicks, A-333-S Current South Pole Weather at 28-Dec-2007 at 20:00 Z> South Pole
Station> PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -15.2 F (-26.2 C) Windchill -36.4 F (-38.0 C)> APO AP
96598 Wind 10.3 kts Grid 32 Barometer 684.8 mb (10448 ft)> > Ethan.Dicks at
usap.gov
http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html Sorry, I just don't understand why the
quoted text is so messed up.It all looks fine before I click the "Send" button.
This time, I changedthe encoding from UTF-8 to Western Europe (Windows) ... I better not
putmy answers interspersed.If somebody knows how to get this stupid quoting corrected:
help!The manual is called "LP11/LS11/LA11 line printer user's manual",
butthe etch on the M7258 only says "LS11 interface".The round cable is not a
flat cable, but has separate wires. At least,that is how it looks to me. The diameter is
approx 0.5". I will shoot apicture of that cable too. I will "announce" the
LA180 page when it isfinished ... and hunt down that cat :-) If somebody has that text
file,
I would love to print it! You got me up the attick for the third time Ethan
:-)If you hold the M7258 with the fingers at the right side and look at thecomponent side
of the module, the BERG header is at the top left side.The single height module is
directly above the M7258, like this ASCII art:
----------------------------------------------------- | ###############
---- \\ |
| \ \| M5973 | |
component side view | / /|
| // | BERG (to M7258) | |
############### ----
-----------------------------------------------------
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <--- flat cable
-----------------------------------------------------
| ############### ----
| M7258 |
=== ===The module is original
DIGITAL, it is in the etch, M5973. It's in theField Guide: "M5973 LLD11 U TTL
to differential transceiver".There are only 3 fingers connected at the end, for power
supply.The way it is, this M5973 must have been installed in position B ofthe slot, where
the M7258 goes into an SPC (position C-F). The manual indeed is for the major part
concerning the LP01/02/04/05.Wished I could have played with DEC stuff in those days!
Cool having
your own pdp8 at 16!!Henk (wondering how this will appear on the list!)