Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:23:46 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
From: William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Info on things old wanted...
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Does anyone have any information on these two things?
My guess is that the
IBM card machine may be
pre-computer (programmed by plugboards, etc.).
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WHOAH here !! Just a minute !! Are you trying to say that anything
without a LSI chip or integrated circuit-board is a "pre-computer" ?
This whole family of data processing machines is commonly called "unit
record equipment". Yes, the stuff does process data just as a modern
database can, but they are really not general purpose data crunchers like
a "standard" computer.
This might be the beginning of an
epistimological revision to rival
that of the term PC to mean a MSDOS machine or R&R meaning any
kind of new pop music.
The lines of history are often very blurry. Rarely does anything get
invented or changed in an instant of time. Data processing machines are no
exception, but one does have to come up with some naming conventions, or
use ones already in place. I was just using an existing one.
And no, I never implied that computers started with LSI chips - as a few
of you people know, I collect minis mostly, and two of my machines do not
have integrated circuits at all. I still call them computers (OK, one is
actually a calculator, but I am not going to open that can of worms).
Maybe we're talking of different kinds of worms. : ^ ) but I've
always considered Babbidges machine the first computer.
I've got an old Monroe mechanical calculator in my collection
that I don't call a computer tho it "crunches" numbers , but the
Enniac which was preprogrammed by plugboard IIRC ,is considered a
computer by any authority I've ever read . The 80 col "computer" card
would be a misnomer in that case. The sorters, collators, keypunch,
and compilers I worked on in the 50's tho obviously not computers
were I\O adjuncts just as keyboard, DDs and modems are now.
Plugboards were handwired to delineate paths for info just as
present-day programs do.
Am I missing something from your original post ? Did you mean
pre-processing rather than before the computer era ?
ciao larry
lwalkerN0spaM(a)interlog.com