Well, ok, if your list was intended as a "first
VAX" only list, then
That is what I believe the OP was asking for,
Yes. But I would never dream of suggesting a VAX-11/780 as a "first VAX"
either... I think most people would not even know what to do if
presented with 500 Kg of computer... Not to mention all the subsystems
you need to figure out, learn, connect and get running...
It depends a lot of who you are. As I said in my first posting, the ideal VAX for you is
not the ideal VAX for me. Personally, I would have considerd an 11/780 as my first VAX,
I know what it is like, I can read the printset, I have a good idea what to expect in the
circuitry. For me, a VAXstation would have no interest at all.
It's not exactly like a workstation or a PC.
That is surely a Good Thing :-)
The 6000 series are quite big cabinets and as a
first VAX it's hard for me to
see the great advantage over a microVAX or a VAXstation.
They are small compared to a VAX-11/780.
True, about the same size as the 11/750. They are still not small, and I can't see
what they would have to offer.
The 11/782 would become very big, and use even more
power. Not that an
11/780 are small to start with, but we're talking about roughly doubling
the size and power consumption here... Not to mention being a very odd
Yes, it's close to being a pair of 11/780s running in parallel.
machine from a multiprocessor point of view as well.
Not something I
would recommend unless you are seriously interested in that specific
machine.
Nor would I, but if I had the space (I don't!) I would love one...
.
The 11/730 and 11/725 are probably among the last
machines I would ever
Sure it's slow, and there is a major design misfeature -- I mean who seriously uses
DRAM as a control store, and then has to halt the CPU to refresh it every few ms. But
IMHO fitting the complete VAX CPU onto 3 hex boards using standard ICs (apart from
the memory ECC which used the same gate arrays as the 11/750) is an interesting, at
least, bit of work.
want to have. We all have different dreams... The 8650
is sweet. I could
possibly like a 9000 even more...
As I keep on saying, and I hope the OP considers this, the ideal VAX depends
on who you are. As I want to get inside the CPU with a logic analyser, there are
really only 2 series for me to consider. One large, the other slow. As I am short
of space and not time it is obvious what I looked for.
-tony