I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

That's because it's not _only_ paypal they'll take, there are a number of alternate electronic payment schemes they said they'll accept as well. And as far as that "paypalsucks" web site goes, I remember looking at that a while back, but after looking it over I saw stuff on there that ignored the way they're set up -- daily withdrawl limits only go up beyond a certain point when you get verified to a certain level, etc. and people weren't inclined to do that, they didn't want to play by the rules or somesuch. I got nudged to set up a paypal account and have been using them since 2006 with no major problems at all, and what minor glitches there were have been dealt with promptly (the latest one being the failure of the print shipping label when there's a customs form involved, which isn't even their fault as it's somebody else's software). -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin