On 10/04/2011 04:19 PM, Lance Lyon wrote:
Of late the negativity in CCTALK has reached
somewhat epic proportions - and
people are coming across in a rather poor light. Many posters seem to be
permanently stuck in the stone age and appear to hate anything produced in
the last 30 years.
This post is a perfect example :
"Outhouse" and "Weird" - hate to tell you but both of those
particular
products have been the business standard for quite a few years now and a lot
of roles are advertised that require the applicants to be proficient in
their uses.
"Business standard"...assuming that's even true, are you suggesting
that this is supposed to indicate a good product, or suggest that I
should use it? That's pretty silly, and awfully unprofessional.
I am sure a lot more people watch 'Eastenders' than the playes of
Shakespear. Is anyonr going to seriously suggest the former is better
than the latter?
"Business people" love Microsoft because
they think Microsoft and
Bill Gates are the same entity, and like to be associated with money and
financial success. These people typically haven't an iota of technical
know-how, and they're NOT the people who should be telling others what
tools to use to do their jobs.
The main problem, actually, is that thesr tools are proprietary and you
vcna't use other tools to work with them.
Suppose you want a metal part made up. It matters not one bit that I turn
it on my Myford lathe and you then so some more operations on it using a
Colchester lathe. Provided we work to the same, agreed dimentions and
tolerances it'll all be fine.
But if you write a document with Woed and want me to modify it, I have to
use Word too. I can't use TeX or whatver.
No I am not happy about this either.
Nor should users of the products be denigrated as
useless or idiots because
they use them - claiming such only proves that YOU are the foolish one.
No. Nowhere was it suggested that Outlook and Word are bad because
they're somehow "modern". It was suggested that Outlook and Word are
bad because, well, they ARE. And frankly, anyone with so much as a whit
of technical experience or know-how KNOWS that.
Like it or not, computers are technical tools. You don't see true
Well, they can be.
hard-core technical people using Outlook or Word,
EVER. There's a
reason for that. Trust the opinions of people who actually know how
this stuff works and what it's supposed to do, not some plastic-haired
idiot out on the golf course who will buy anything that's advertised in
BusinessWeek magazine.
I make no secret of the OS I use, the text formatter I use, etc. I will
assure you that I have good reasons for choosing those based on the jobs
I want to do and (to a lesser extent) the machine I want to run them on.
Your requiremnts may of course differ and then it's entirely reasonable
that you wil lpick a differnet solution. All I would ask is that you
actually make that decision
I wonder how may business types have ever seriosuly evaluated what's
actually available rahter than just buying soemthing because it's from
Microsoft (or whoever).
-tony