but I have not been able to locate the 16Mhz clock chip or bus controller
chip, I purchased my 12Mhz i82C284-12 and i82C288-12 from ACP Surplus
maybe you might be able to squeeze out 14Mhz from the 12.5Mhz devices !!!
Has this finding made any difference to the old memory board timing
problem, ie rendered the patch unnecessary ?
regards
David Fry
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:36:36 PM UTC, monahanz wrote:
More good news Guys. I now have our 80286 S-100 board
running at 12 MHz
(no wait states) with our 4MG Static RAM board.
I noticed that my bus controller (U68) was a 82C288. Looking around here
I found I had an 82C288-10. When I tried that, the board came up fine at
12MHz (no wait states). Clearly the CMOS clock generator while rated for
10MHz, works at a higher speed. The original 82C288 I think is for 8MHz,
pushing it to 12 was too much.
Fortunately I already have a 12Mhz clock generator (28C284-12) on
board.
Looking here:-
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/80286/MANUF-AMD.html
I see there are PLCC 16MHz AMD chips. Does anybody know where to find
these chips and the corresponding -16 clock generator and bus controllers.
John
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*Subject:* [N8VEM-S100:2006] Re: S-100 80286 CPU board write-up
Hi John
Excellent news :-)
I was kinda holding off on starting my 80286 board in case the mods/fix
ended up being extensive (I have the S-100 Ram/Rom board on order also)
Just wondering if will you be investigating why the final board will only
manage 11Mhz when the prototype manages 12Mhz ?
It's not a big issue but would be nice to get to 12Mhz if possible.
regards and thanks
David Fry
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 7:06:09 PM UTC+1, monahanz wrote:
Good news, It now looks like our new 80286 Master/Slave S100 bus CPU board
works fine with not only our 4MG Static RAM board bit also the 1M RAM/ROM
board.
The problem I outlined below was due to the fact that I had jumpers wrong
on both the CPU and ROM/RAM boards. The 80286 works fine with both boards
at 11MHz (with no wait states).
One of the reasons for ?upgrading? the ROM/RAM board was to simplify the
?rats nest? of jumpers on the earlier boards for the diverse range of RAM &
RAM chips (including flash RAM) that board can use. The new RAM/ROM
boards should be here soon. If you have the older board, consider switching
over (it uses all the same chips/parts) . For new users it is a very
useful memory board.
One remaining bug I see with the 80286 board is that some older S100
Static RAM boards (particularly those that use PALs, such as the Godbout
128K static "RAM21" board or the BG Computers 256K Static RAM board), need
a patch. You need to bend out pin 2 of U56 and jumper it to pin 9 of U68 -
the bus controller. This seems to provide the early MWRITE status signal
these boards require. Interestingly this is also the case for our 8088 CPU
board (jumper K5,2-3), but not the 8086 board.
I have written up a detailed account for the 80286 boards construction
here:-
http://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/80286%20Board/80286%20CPU%…
And a description of the RAM/ROM board here.
http://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/RAM&ROM%20Board/RAM&am…
Enjoy
John
*From:* John Monahan [mailto:mon... at
vitasoft.org]
*Sent:* Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:53 AM
*To:* 'n8vem... at googlegroups.com'
*Cc:* 'cct... at classiccmp.org'; Andrew Lynch (andrew... at
sbcglobal.net)
*Subject:* S-100 80286 CPU board write-up
Hi everybody. I have just written up construction notes on this 80286 CPU
board.
Please see here:- for details:-
http://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/80286%20Board/80286%20CPU%…
Unfortunately there are some strange issues with the board running with
RAM boards other than our 4MG Static RAM board
(described here:-)
http://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/RAM%20Board/4MG%20RAM%20Bo…
With that RAM board, the 80286 is rock solid at 11MHz (no I/O or ROM wait
states required).
Please see the bottom of the page for details.
I am traveling all of next week but will explore further when I get back.
Sorry about the bad news
John
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