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On Behalf Of Mouse
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Modern computers with docs (was: Re: PM 6100/60, was:
Pretty sure that's not what you meant,
Seriously, I love the idea but see no good way
to market it to the
Why does "the average user" matter here? Such people have no use for
schematics, detailed ASIC data, etc. This strikes me as rather like
solar-powered car for racing and worrying that it
doesn't work well to
groceries home from the supermarket.
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Agree. The N8VEM home brew computer project is not intended for "average"
users by any stretch. I would not categorize it as a computer manufacturer
either. Rather a cooperative project by home brew hobbyists for other home
brew hobbyists. It is a niche specialty for dedicated hobbyists. It is
however completely open, documented, and publicly available.
If N8VEM builders want something they can build it here but they have to put
in the effort and resources. For instance recent some builders wanted to
design and build an MC68040 SBC. So that's what we are doing and just
ordered some prototype boards. Same with an 80386 CPU for the S-100 bus and
I'll order some prototype boards for it tomorrow. Among several other
interesting projects in work at any given time.
The N8VEM project is for those hobbyists who are willing to put in the work
to make what they want happen. Decrying the lack of documentation from
modern computer manufacturers is completely pointless in my opinion. First,
they can't hear you and second, they couldn't care less. If you want a
completely open and documented computer system, I recommend you build it
yourself. Then publish your works so others can benefit.
Similarly, the Raspberry Pi is a neat idea but it appears to be so
contaminated with proprietary information that it will likely never achieve
any sort of real openness. Also, I don't think just getting an RPi PCB and
building it yourself is an option even if you did have the skills to
assemble it (SMT, BGA, etc).
If you are sitting around waiting for someone to "do it right" I suggest you
be waiting for a long time if not forever.
Thanks and have a nice day!