Howdy y'all.
I'm trying to dig up one or more ancient microchannel ethernet cards.
Due to software limitations, it MUST be the Ungermann-Bass NICps. This
will be a 16-bit full length microchannel card, with a single AUI jack
(DA15F). It will NOT have an i80186 CPU on it; if it has an i80186,
it's the newer Net-ONE NIUps, and won't work. I've got a pile of these
cards already.
Hopefully somebody out there will have one or two of these stashed away
somewhere.
Thanks!
ok
bear
Does anyone out there have any sources for Pet computer software? Preferably
tape, but I could probably track down a disk player as well. Better yet,
has anyone designed a 'tape emulator' or anything like that?
Hey all,
Before I say anything else, I've posted here before and even passed
along a couple of classic computers to members of the list, so please,
bear with me.
I've got a Compaq luggable here that's just taking up space. I've
included links at the end of this message showing pictures of the system
itself, since I've no real information as to what sorts of internals it
has, or even what the various expansion cards are for (save one, which
is obviously parallel, and is labeled "printer"). My father used it a
long time ago when he was the regional service manager for a major food
and beverage equipment supplier.
The system does work. One of the two floppy drives -- no hard disk on
this thing -- seems to go on the fritz every once in a while, but
otherwise, everything else works, AFAIK.
NOTE: This declaration of fitness doesn't include the expansion cards,
as I've no way to test them.
Anyway, I know better than to ask "what's this thing worth," so instead
I'll ask "is this thing worth anything to anyone here?" I'm from
south-western Michigan, but I make semi-regular jaunts all over the
state, and make the occasional trip to Chicago as well. If someone here
wants the system, make me what you feel is a fair offer. If you want me
to drop it off, I'll charge you for gas money in addition to whatever
your fair offer is. Otherwise, you can pick it up. I'd rather not ship
it, as it's large, heavy, and might not make it through the shipping
process.
NOTE: This system is, compared to the comparable models I've seen on
eBay, in great shape. It includes the original brown Compaq labeled
base, which is clean and tear/rip free. The computer itself if fairly
clean, no dust accumulation outside (inside might be a different story).
Anyway, on with the pictures:
http://www.averagebacon.com/ebay/compaq_running.jpghttp://www.averagebacon.com/ebay/compaq_screen.jpghttp://www.averagebacon.com/ebay/compaq_software.jpghttp://www.averagebacon.com/ebay/compaq_ports.jpghttp://www.averagebacon.com/ebay/compaq_case.jpg
If no one wants it, it'll probably just go to eBay. If multiple people
want it, I'll take a look at the offers, and if they're all the roughly
the same, put it up for private auction (and inform the list). If the
offers are wildly different, I'll just take the highest one. That should
keep everything and everyone (including me) nice and fair.
Thanks for listening, and please feel free to drop me a line --
compaq(a)averagebacon.com -- if you have any questions or want another
photo or whatnot.
Sincerely,
Blair Miller
>From: "David V. Corbin" <dvcorbin(a)optonline.net>
>
>>>> [1] Bonus points for people who know what BNC stands for....
>
>Bayonet Neil-Concelman or British Naval Connector!
>
>Although I have never been sure why the English would want to connect their
>belly-buttons....
>
>
bayonet something connector
Dwight
Hi All.
I'm in Japan and having a problem with a US monitor.
It won't turn on...no power light or power up noises
or anything.
So I measured voltage across neutral and ground and
there was 8VAC. So I got an electrician to wire up a
proper ground. There's still 1VAC across Neutral and
Ground.
So I have two theories:
1) The monitor is seeing the floating ground and not
liking it and refusing to turn on.
2) The monitor requires at least 110V (I'm getting
103V).
I'd hate to think this thing just died, so can anyone
confirm that a ground to neutral measurement should
yield 0V or some very negligible voltage?
Assuming the above two theories are bunk...any other
ideas?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide :(
Thanks!
Sellam
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Now, in the loft I have a pair of Archive 5945C 60MB drives
They're QIC-36 interface drives apparently.
--
Correct, the basic drive mech is QIC-36
--
Emulex MW0210402's
--
Should be MT02
--
in order to stand a
chance of reading these tapes, do I need to know what board was
originally used (and even which drive!) in order to write them?
--
It would certainly help. MT02's are SCSI common command set and
can read QIC-11 or QIC-24 formats.
If the carts are DC300,450, or 600 and they were written on a
80's - ish unix box, they will probably be readable with a 5945
and MT02.
Be ABSOLUTELY sure that the capstan hasn't deteriorated before
trying to do anything with a tape you care about, though. Most
drives that old have rubber that has turned to goo, or WILL turn
to goo once heat is applied though the motor shaft.
Docs for both the Archive drive and MT02 are up on bitsavers.
I guy told me that the :C optical reader was great for scanning books into
your computer, so I got one out of the warehouse and loaded the software
that came with it. Now the problem is I can not get to the company website
to get the code to use the software? Does anyone know if there is a generic
code that I can use to work the scanner? I want to start scanning in all the
books in the collection into my laptop (I have over 1200 books to enter).
Thanks for any help or leads in finding the company or the code.
I recieved a query about a computer from you, probably related to this
list,
since your email id was VCM(a)swtpc.com. All attempts to reply to your
email bounces due to your spam control. You may reach me at
jws(a)world.std.com
about the computer you had contacted me about on 4/29/2004.
sorry for the delay, but the bounces were buried in spams titled as
email
bounces with phishing in them.
Jim
Hi
A 12v filament transformer can be used to
boost the voltage. Also, Japan is 50Hz so
that may also be an issue.
One could even use an AC wall wart as long
as the output current was rated as high as that
used by the monitor. You just need to experiment
with the lead polarity to get the phase to boost.
You'd need to put this all in a closed box for safety
because the output wires of a wall wart are not
usually rated for 115V.
Dwight
>From: "Brent Hilpert" <hilpert(a)cs.ubc.ca>
>
>"Phab E. Oh" wrote:
>> I'm in Japan and having a problem with a US monitor.
>> It won't turn on...no power light or power up noises
>> or anything.
>>
>> So I measured voltage across neutral and ground and
>> there was 8VAC. So I got an electrician to wire up a
>> proper ground. There's still 1VAC across Neutral and
>> Ground.
>>
>> So I have two theories:
>>
>> 1) The monitor is seeing the floating ground and not
>> liking it and refusing to turn on.
>> 2) The monitor requires at least 110V (I'm getting
>> 103V).
>>
>> I'd hate to think this thing just died, so can anyone
>> confirm that a ground to neutral measurement should
>> yield 0V or some very negligible voltage?
>>
>
>If you are measuring between GND and neutral, a few volts measured is not
surprising (especially with a DMM with a high input impedance), resulting from
inductive/capacitive coupling between wires over the distance between your
measurement point and where GND and neutral are bonded in the building (assuming
that Japan does a straight GND/neutral bond as is done in North America).
>
>The 103V supply voltage is far more suspicious, as it is quite low relative to
115V (you don't say how old the monitor is, could it be that it predates power
supplies with 'universal' supply voltage range?). Try finding a power adapter
transformer to boost the voltage. (Normal Japanese line voltage is lower than
North America isn't it?). Or if you are around electronics people, try to find a
variac, as variacs typically have some boost on the upper end of their range
(for example, a variac fed with 120V will typically boost to at least 130V,
keeping in mind if the variac scale is presented in volts, the scale accuracy
will vary with the input voltage). (Or, being very careful not to go to the low
end, wire up the variac in reverse).
>
>Or (if the monitor is older) there's always looking inside the monitor for
jumpers, or alternative primary taps on a power transformer, to select input
voltages.
>
Thom Restivo is supposed to be coming to VCF-East and should be in the Boston area on Thursday. I am trying to contact him on his cell phone but I keep getting voice mail. If someone sees him on Thursday or early Friday, could you ask him to call me at 803-920-2064? He's supposed to be picking some equipment up for me on Friday, but I need to talk to him to work out the logistics.
Thanks,
Ashley Carder
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He gave me 15 QIC-Tapes with it, unfortunately no documents.
--
Moreover,serveral tapes are corroded.
--
There were many different recording formats used with DC300 style
tape cartridges before the QIC standards were established. Onyx
tapes predate those standards. Assuming the tape itself isn't
damaged, you can put the reels into new shells. You will need to
use a DEI drive to read them.
As I keep telling people, DON'T EXPERIMENT WITH TAPES YOU CARE
ABOUT WITH DRIVES IN UNKNOWN CONDITION!
It sounds like the capstan was bad in the unit, try some other
cart you don't care about before risking these tapes (which are
quite rare) in that drive.
It would be a good thing to take high resolution pics of the boards
and to dump any programmable parts.
A lot of people have been asking me how to transfer the contents of
HP Series 80 floppies to a modern machine (and vice versa, of course).
Up till now I have been using my Integral PC to upload binary images of the
Series 80 floppies. The reason I prefer the images to the files created
by LIFUTIL, is that the image can be copied back to a new floppy
without dealing with the filename conversions, restoring the diskette
volume name, etc.
The problem with this approach is that only people with Integral PCs
(or other HP-UX systems with HP-IB interfaces) may use this path [1],
plus that I need to unpack and fiddle with the Integral PC every time
I need to make a copy. Moreover, getting the stuff *off* the IPC is
a pain because I only have the HP-IB interface.
Anyway, while reading the old PCC Computer Journal issues, I came
across a very interesting article by Pete Goffinet on how to use the HP
binary utility "r" which is provided with the HP-86/87 Demo Disc.
"r" is a binary program that contains two commands, RSECTOR for reading
arbitrary sectors of an HP-IB mass storage device, and WSECTOR for
writing them!
I have written a pair of programs (one for the HP-87 and another for
my Unix box) that allow entire images to be uploaded using an HP-87
with a serial interface.
Writing a program to download images is also trivial. Do note that
the programs I have written are unbelievably slooooow. If anybody
can come up with some sort of speedup, pls let me know.
Also, "r" works only on the HP-86/87, so the procedure will *not*
work with an HP-85 (or HP-83). If anybody has an equivalent binary
program for the HP-85, pls send it along.
For more info read the article "Transferring diskette images from an
HP-86/7 to a PC via a serial connection" at
http://www.series80.org/Articles/xfer.html
The HP-86/87 Demo Disc is also available at:
http://www.series80.org/Programs/DEMO87/index.html
(I'll also post a utility for listings and unbundling LIF floppies
on a Unix box in the next couple of days).
**vp
[1] If you use Linux, note, that there is a comprehensive package
for reading LIF floppies, called lifutils, written by Tony Duell.
Unfortunately it does not run under OpenBSD which is the system
I am using.
Hi all !
Two years ago, a friend of mine gave me a micro which was the first one to use Unix commercially back in 1981.
He told me that there was problem with the power supply. With the harddisk connected, a short circuit is produced.
When it's disconncected, the Onyx doesn't work correctly, the system isn't stable.
He gave me 15 QIC-Tapes with it, unfortunately no documents.
Ok, so far about his information...
On the internet, there's little information about the Onyx but nothing what could help.
Last week, I decided to resurrect this machine, and to be honest: It's not in a good condition. :-(
Things I did until now:
- Replaced the fuse which was blown (somebody used the system by bypassing the dead fuse with a cable...)
- Replaced the broken reset switch
- Replaced the reel of the tape drive (the rubber one near the read and write head which
transports the tape
What's in this micro ?
- CPU: Zilog 8002 @ 4 MHz
- memory: 256-512kb
- HDD: IMI 7720
- Tape drive: DEI (Data Electronic INC) Qic-Tape drive (you can find the document at Al's
collection)
- 8 terminals can be connected
Moreover,serveral tapes are corroded.
One of the two memory boards is not connected to the mainboard. There is a notice dated from '84 wich sais that the board is defective.
With the HDD disconnected, the machine turns on, the voltages at the power supply do not leave the 5% tolerance-This leaves me to the conclusion that the supply is in good working condition.
I connected a VT420 as a console terminal (there's a port for that purpose) which emulates a VT100 but nothing appears on the screen (I tried out several baud rates...).
There are lots of test points on the board, serveral of these are used to messure the voltage level.
And at the I/O-Board where the terminals are connected appears another problem: the 5V test Point gives out 4,15 V...
There's some work to do to bring the C8002 back to life.
It seems to me that this machine is very rare and that it's therefore worth to invest some work to resurrect it.
But what I mostly need is your help. Is anybody familiar with the Onyx computers ?
Of course, one important thing are the documents, as there are many LEDs on the boards and I just don't know their meaning. Scanning these (if they exist) is not nessecary, email communicatio n would be enough for me. Same for the IMI hard drive...
I could make some photos is anybody is interested.
Best Regards
Pierre
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Hi Tony,
I am after a Western Digital WD1002-05 controller card which I need, to get
a hard drive working with an old system which I have. Do you still have this
card? Would you like to sell it to me? Many thanks.
Regards,
James Thomson
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote:
> It would be neat to know how the Egyptians built the pyramids, but we have
> cranes and stuff for that today, so even if we knew their methods, is it
> really practical to teach them in engineering school?
No modern cranes or other machinery can come even close to building
the 3 Orion pyramids on the Giza plateau or the Baalbek stone platform
in the mountains of Lebanon. The only technology that can build such
structures is antigravity, which is how they were actually built.
Yes, get this, technology was more advanced many thousands of years ago
than it is today. Devolution is all around us. The devolution of the
past 20 y or so that Tony and others lament is merely a continuation of
the devolution that has been going on for the past 4000 years, ever since
the year 2024 BCE when our cosmic ancestors and teachers, the Anunnaki,
were overthrown and forced off this planet by the dark extraterrestrial
reptilian race I call Yahwists, who are the force behind Judeo-Xtianity
(the "God" entity is actually them, those galactic criminals).
This tragedy occurred because of a security hole in the ancient computer
systems of Anunnaki (to bring this on topic). The Yahwists managed to
introduce a virus into Anunnaki's central command mainframe at their
NOC on Mt. Moriah (which became Jerusalem centuries later) and generated
commands to launch their nuclear missiles against their major cities
(including Sodom and Gomorrah), their spaceport in the Sinai peninsula,
and their key technological base on Mt. Katherine. The destruction was
complete when the Jewish horde (with Yahweh's UFO flying overhead) overran
Jericho. Legendary records of this lost Golden Age remained in the
Library of Alexandria, but the Christians took care of that.
Oh, and the Giza pyramid complex is NOT ~4500 years old as commonly
believed. It is actually about 12500 y old, if not more. The 3 pyramids
are arranged exactly as the belt stars of Orion: Zeta Orionis, Epsilon
Orionis and Delta Orionis. The Great Pyramid is not the Pyramid of Cheops
or Khufu, it's the pyramid of Zeta Orionis. The catch, however, that the
astronomical alignments in the Giza complex (yes, complex, it was completely
designed as a single unit before any one piece was built) do not match
the stars as they appear in the sky today, but they match the stars as
they appeared 12500 y ago. (The change is due to the precession of Earth's
axis: the North Pole points at Polaris today, but 12500 y ago it pointed
at Vega, as it will again in another 12500 y or so. The complete
precessional cycle is 25920 y.) The extensive rain erosion on the Sphinx
suggests a similar date.
MS
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I've just heard that there will be an empty suitecase traveling my way from
Worthycote, Milnthorpe Lane, Winchester, Hampshire, UK.
This is my chance to get a British micro for my collection.
Are there any surplus classic machines in the area?
Unfortunately the suiteaces will be filled for the return trip
- --
Collector of vintage computers
http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600
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> AARGH... Just looked on e-bay. There are a large number of pdp-8 items
> listed by a single vendor. Looks like 1 or more /m systems has been
> disassembled. Feel like I am watching humpty-dumpty, will the pieces ever
> get back together again......
nope..
nothing heavy for the guy to ship either.
153.51 H212
102.50 H212
102.50 G111
50.00 G111
102.50 G233
86.00 G233
97.00 front panel
30.09 plex
74.77 8/M Omnibus
201.50 16 x top cons
50.00 M837
201.50 M7104
50.00 M8330
50.00 M8320
52.00 M8337
201.50 M7105
201.50 M7106
52.00 M840
52.00 M8335
52.00 M8336
50.00 M8300
50.00 M8310
52.00 M8655
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2114.87
>From: "der Mouse" <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca>
>
>> I've only ever possessed one [microwave oven], it currently still
>> seems to cook as well (or badly) as it ever did so I've had no cause
>> to examine it in any detail.
>
>Same here.
>
>> If it breaks, it will get looked at (although I suspect, without ever
>> having checked, that a new megnetron will cost a significant fraction
>> of the price of a microwave oven). Still, there's always the chance
>> that the controller or its keypad will give up the ghost.
>
>That's what happened with my oven. It was bought at a garage sale some
>years back, and worked fine for some time (years). Then after a
>lightning storm, it started beeping intermittently at odd times when it
>shouldn't. After a few days, it occurred to me that if it could beep
>when it wasn't suppsoed to, it could turn on the microwaves when it
>isn't supposed to. I opened it up and found that the keypad and
>control board all culminated in two relays, one to control the fan and
>the other the microwave-generator. I checked, and a new board would
>cost almost as much as we paid for the oven. So I yanked the whole
>thing, wired the fan and magnetron together (I almost always used it on
>high anyway, and lower power settings worked by imposing a <100% duty
>cycle on the magnetron), and controlled it with an ordinary wall light
>switch, on the principle that it's too simple for much to go wrong.
---snip---
Hi
Interesting. I know how, just about every part of, a microwave
oven works and I wouldn't have done this. I'd have thrown
the thing away and bought another at a garage sale.
You also have to realize that I'm the kind of fellow that
once did a field repair on broken points spring of
a car with some cardboard, tape and several springs from
some ballpoint pens. It got me home.
Also, I doubt that a normal wall light switch is rated for
that large of an inductive load.
Dwight
BTW - I have no interest in most of those manuals. If there are any specific
to the 8E, and I don't already have them, then I'd want just those. The rest
will go to people on the list, after Al scans the ones he wishes to scan.
I've kept track of the responses ... they appear to be spoken for several
times over. More to follow....
Jay
> A transistor can avalanche and not recover without removing the
> power. A tube can recover with the power on, as long as the metal
> don't ionize.
Not true, a flashover in a valve is just as destructive as a similar
condition in a transistor and cannot be snubbed without removing the
supplies.
We have big crowbar switches here.
Lee.
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Hi folks,
we came across a whack of Enterprise Server Arrays, and a
TL882 tape jukebox.
Here's a list of the stuff:
power supply units 30-48191-4 180w
70-33252-01 NIC-SCSI
70-32866-01 terminal
HSZ70 70-32832-01 w. flash card
HSZ cache w/ 4 x 32MB 72pin SIMM
cache battery pack 70-32188-04
fans (400293-001 McLean Eng. PR770C +12v)
DS-BA35X-FA 70-33067-02 (BA356)
DS-SWXRA-HA
This probably *just* qualifies within the 10-year-old rule for cctech :-) though
I couldn't find a date anywhere; I'm betting on mid 1990's.
We're looking to get rid of this stuff in order to recoup costs
on the purchase (it was a lot bid, and this was the "extra" equipment).
Is anyone interested? Can anyone suggest places that might be interested
in this (other than, obviously, eBay, which is where it will end up)?
I'm hoping people who have these arrays are interested in spare parts
like power supplies, fans, HSZ cache upgrades, etc.
The arrays are missing the drives because those "had to be scrapped" for
security reasons; unfortunately, they also scrapped the plastic cases
that the drives resided in.
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
-RK
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Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting, Books and Training at www.parse.com
Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!
I'm bringing the following stuff to VCF East in the hopes of finding it
new homes:
1) 2 PDT-11/150's (already spoken for)
2) 2 DECmate III+'s (with hard drive and CP/M option)
3) 1 DECmate III (dual floppies)
4) 1 DEC Pro380
5) 1 DEC VR201 monitor
6) 1 DEC LK201 keyboard
7) 1 Radio Shack CoCo3
8) 1 Sun Sparc Classic X with software
9) 1 SWTP 6800
10) 1 SWTP AC-30 with documentation
11) 1 SWTP DMAF2 Floppy controller with documentation
12) 1 NEC EVAKIT-8 evaluation kit with documentation (8080 clone)
13) 1 Atari Portfolio with serial interface and memory cards and
documentation
14) 1 TRS-80 Model 100 with cassette drive
15) 1 Atari Jaguar with CD-ROM drive with some games
16) 1 Micromint SB180 single board computer with documentation and
software
17) 1 VAXstation 4000 VLC without hard drive
18) 1 DEC hard drive that *may* work with the 4000 VLC
What I'm hoping to acquire:
1) A complete kit for the SBC6120
2) A book on 6502 assembly language programming
Once I get an SBC6120 up and running I will have an additional DECmate
III+ with VR201 and LK201 available.
I found a blue Tymac controller that looks like it fits the Commodore
C-64 back edge connector. Google brought up a couple of things, but I
didn't see any pictures to verify that is what I have. This is in a blue
case with a reset button, three LEDs for Motor/Read/Write, and two slide
switches ... norm/dupl and +/-, and three connectors (1 - 3/32" and 2 -
1/8") that look like they plug into a cassette recorder. Does anyone
have any information on this thing?
I had a 622/i, an 18-bit version, the 620 with the 6-bit slices all
used. It died the horrible death of wirewrap decay. I pitched it and the
mauals (gulp) back in 86 or so, what a horrible mistake.
==
foo..
The 620 is an unusual architecture in that it was available in both
16 and 18 bit versions.
I was able to pick up an 18 bit version a few years ago.
Anything more about the ND 812 that you saw at a surplus place last
year?
Amongst a box of Acorn floppies that I got hold of the other day I found
several DC600 tape cartridges.
I thought it might be useful to see if I can get any data off them (I
have no idea what's on them, if they're still readable, or what format
any data on them is in - I know, I know... :)
Paths scribbled on some suggest they came from some variety of Unix
machine, so chances are they're tar format.
Now, in the loft I have a pair of Archive 5945C 60MB drives which I
didn't have the heart to throw out. God knows if they work or not. I
know, I know...
They're QIC-36 interface drives apparently. This is where I do the
hand-waving stuff as I start to get out of my depth (my only tape
experience is with modern DLT and DAT drives)
I happen to have a whole box of stray interface boards with SCSI at one
end and various other interfaces at the other. Included in these are
Adaptec 3530GA's and Emulex MW0210402's, both of which I think bridge
SCSI to QIC-36. No, I don't know if *those* work either...
Question is, are these boards interchangable? Or in order to stand a
chance of reading these tapes, do I need to know what board was
originally used (and even which drive!) in order to write them?
Furthermore, just because the drive's then on the SCSI bus, can I expect
it to just appear as a modern SCSI tape unit does (i.e. if I can drive a
DLT or DAT drive from my Unix OS, should the same be true of these
controller boards / ancient drives)?
I have the Adaptec 3530A manual, which suggests it's just a plug in and
go solution (but I have no idea how the GA series boards that I have
differ from the A series)
Thoughts welcome, before I go trying to cable everything up!
cheers
Jules
Someone just sent me an email with the line below in it:
"Btw, I just found another batch of manuals, including stuff for PDP-6,
-7, -8, -9, -10, -11, and -15... I imagine someone probably will want
these also. "
MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA
Jay
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[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
I've got a handful of Visual Technology model 55 and 310 terminals that are destined for the scrapper, I haven't been able to give them away around here. If anyone coming east for VCF wants them for free, let me know and we can try to work something out. I've also got a boatload of other dumb terminals that I am not sure what they are -- these are CLSI OEM deals. I think some of them at least are touchscreen models, might be interesting to play with. If anybody wants them, they are also $0.00. And I've also got that Apollo DN550 19" RGB monitor that I've tried to give away a few times still available. Full disclosure: none of these have been tested. They were put into storage (working) a few years ago but haven't seen an electrical outlet since. These were from a system swap at a large public library.
Only issue: I won't be at VCF :-( as I am leaving for vacation Fri. morn. If someone coming in for Thurs wants them, that would be the best time for me to make the swap. I could also do it Fri morn, but it would have to be early, like 7:00 AM. These are located over in Tewksbury MA, which is about 20 minutes from Burlington.
So someone with a big truck/van (and heart????) let me know.
I've also got an untested DEC Pro 350 (PC350-D2) sans keyboard and monitor that I was going to eBay, but if some wants to make a reasonable offer for it and pick it up to save the ship costs it would probably make more sense.
Hi,
I am in need of some people who can test some of the projects I am
slowly cleaning up for release:
1. TDU - the Tape Distribution File Format (TDF) utility, which
handles the archiving of magtapes. All my tape images are in
this format, so I'd better get the tools published as well ;-)
Uses my ASPI library on DOS/Win32 platforms.
--> done
2. VTserver - transfer data from/to bare-metal PDP-11 systems.
Uses the TDF library (above) and the TTY generic serial driver
library.
--> in final beta (Ashley Carder is busy testing/using it as we
speak)
3. OpenMOP - full-spec MOP DL/RC server for UNIX and Win32 platforms.
Uses my NETLIB generic network I/O library.
--> next up for final beta (after VTserver)
4. OpenLAT - full-spec LAT server for UNIX and Win32 platforms.
Uses my NETLIB generic network I/O library.
--> needs cleanup and more work, after OpenMOP is done.
5. OpenPORT - full-spec LASTport (InfoServer) service for UNIX/Win32.
--> final design phase, uses code from OpenMOP and OpenLAT, and
uses the NETLIB library.
These projects, plus their documentation, and probably one or two papers
on retro-computing issues (network installing DEC systems will be one)
will be my "hobby" for the second half of this year.
I want these packages to be tested (and confirmed to work ;-) on the
Win32 (and DOS, where possible) platforms, and on a number of often-
used UNIX-ish platforms:
- OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD
- Linux (-intel, alpha)
- DEC Ultrix-32 (vax, mips)
- Digital UNIX / Tru64
My personal test platforms are Tru64 UNIX (alpha), DEC Ultrix-32 (vax
and mips), OpenBSD/vax, FreeBSD/intel and Win32+DOS. Other people
will have to check the builds (and working) on other platforms. Also
needed is a thorough check of the documentation.
If you can help on any of these, please let me know!
Cheers,
Fred
--
Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation)
Collector/Archivist
Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/
Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/
Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA
Isn't the track index pulse == the one pulse that is fed to the PLL
phase comparator? That pulse is used to synchronize the oscillator
that must run at 12 (or 16) times the frequency between 2 sector
pulses to generate the (missing) sector pulses ....
or am I mistaken here?
- Henk, PA8PDP.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Paul Koning
> Sent: dinsdag 13 juli 2004 15:59
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: FW: RK05 question
>
>
> >>>>> "Fred" == Fred N van Kempen <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> writes:
>
> Fred> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Paul Koning wrote:
> David> the "home" slit and synthesize the individual sectors. Never
> David> tried this with an RK05 [heck havent touched one of them in
> David> over 25 years!], but I have used this technique to synchronize
> David> otgher items.....
> >> I suppose that's possible. One way to do it would be to build a
> >> PLL that's locked to the start of track pulse, and derive a 12x or
> >> 16x sector clock from that. Or, analogously, you could use a PLL
> >> to derive a 16 sector clock from the 12 sector clock (multiple by
> >> 4/3rd, not hard with a PLL). That's probably a good solution...
>
> Fred> Hm, and then ignore the "real" sector pulses and feeding the
> Fred> drive electronics the output of the PLL? Smart, that should
> Fred> work, assuming one can format the packs given this "sector
> Fred> clock".
>
> Yes, that's what I had in mind -- hook the optical sensor to the PLL,
> feed the PLL output to where the sensor used to go. The one obvious
> tricky part is to generate the track index pulse, because it isn't
> equally spaced along with the sector pulses.
>
> Fred> Would these then be called hard- or soft-sectored? :)
>
> Firm-sectored? :-)
>
> paul
>
I've tried twice to get VCF East Slashdotted with no success.
I'm not much of a writer and I carefully guard my Anonymous
Coward status on Slashdot. Maybe someone who is a better headline
writer and has some karma wants to give it a try?
>>>
>>> I guess there is more to an LLF (Low Level Format) than I realized.
>>> I had thought that a completely blank RK05 media was able to be
>>> FORMATed via an RK05 drive. Your answer seems to STRONGLY suggest
>>> that the media must first be SECTORed correctly.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, it should be possible to take and RK05 media and do an
>>> LLF on the drive using the system on which the media is to be used -
>>> and that it would not be a problem if the media originally had an
>>> incorrect number of sectors. Based on your answer, the RK05 media
>>> must FIRST have the correct number of sectors.
>>>
>>> Can you please confirm?
>>>
It would be VERY interesting if the drive had the capability to change the
number of mechanical "slits" in the hub on the pack.....
More seriously. I wonder how good the rotational stability is on the drive.
Mny of the reasons for using "hard sectored" media was because a) Drives
"wobbled", and b) Accurate timing electronics were "difficult".
If the drive motor speed is stable (over the course of a rotation),
it*MIGHT* be possible to alter a drive to just use the "home" slit and
synthesize the individual sectors. Never tried this with an RK05 [heck
havent touched one of them in over 25 years!], but I have used this
technique to synchronize otgher items.....
There is an excellent and growing "library" of old computer documentation
available at:
http://www.hartetechnologies.com/manuals/
The following additional specific manuals are being actively sought:
* AB Digital Design Labs B810 RAM
* CCS 2820 CPU Board Manual
* CCS 2-Serial/2-Parallel Card Manual
* Cromemco [2716] 32K Bytesaver
* Cromemco 64KZ and 64KZ-II Manuals
* DIGITEX Systems Manuals.
* DUAL Systems Manuals not listed.
* Ithaca Audio 1010 CPU Board
* Konan SMC200 SMD Disk Controller
* NNC ("No-Name Computers") Manuals
* OSM Computer Corp Z80 CPU "CPU/64K" Board
* S. D. Sales Expando-Ram I, II, III Manuals (any/all versions)
* SSM (Solid State Music) MB64 64K static RAM manual
* SSM VB3 Video board
* Zeus System Manuals
However, contributions of any manuals not currently in the archive are
appreciated (or "better" copies of documents that are already available).
If you have any of these in electronic format (PDF, JPEG, etc.), you may
contribute them by uploading them to:
ftp://ftp.hartetec.com/pub/incoming
Alternatively, if you have hard copy of any of these manuals, I hereby offer
to scan them to Adobe Acrobat PDF files and submit them, and, if requested,
return original manuals.
There are additional archives of old computer manuals at:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/
and, for Processor technology products, at:
http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html
Barry Watzman
Watzman(a)neo.rr.com
Can RK05s that were used on a PDP-8 be used on
a PDP-11?
==
The drives are the same, the packs on PDP-8's are 16
sector instead of 12.
I'll trade you two tested/cleaned 12 sector packs for
every 16 sector one that you have.
>If anyone has any *crashed* 16-sector packs, it might be worth an >experiment to unclamp the hub and put it on a former 12-sector platter, >and reformat. I don't know if that's even possible, but it's an idea.
I'd be willing to donate a crashed 16 sector pack if someone wants to
try this. One has a very light scrach on an outer track. Don't know
if there is a way for these to mark bad tracks (would guess not).
Tim
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>From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin(a)rain.org>
>
>
>
>"Dwight K. Elvey" wrote:
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, where does one find a 14V
>> Gell-Cell?
>
>Easy, just overcharge a 12V gel cell :).
>
Hi Marvin
I already have a few like this. Your welcome to the
ones in my yard. It'll save me a trip to the dump.
Dwight
Hi
Thanks.
Just out of curiosity, where does one find a 14V
Gell-Cell?
Dwight
>From: "Frank McConnell" <fmc(a)reanimators.org>
>
>Dwight Elvey wrote:
>> I just got a HP2113E. I've not been able to use it because
>> it wants to have a battery connected. There is suppose to
>> be a battery simulator plug for these. I'm looking for
>> any schematic or part information for this item?
>
><http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2002-December/012602.html>
>
>in which I wrote:
>
># Here I sit looking at a little black square 3x3 plug, HP p/n
># 12991-60002 (stamped in white ink on one side of the hood).
>
># Inside the hood (visible through the hole in the back) there is only a
># 1/4W resistor connected to pins 4 and 6, which matches Glen's
># description. Bands are gray, red, brown, gold. Hmm, 820 ohms?
># Measures as 823 ohms on my cheap digital multimeter.
>
>-Frank McConnell
>
Could you please transfer the images to files which can be
copied to bitsavers for download?
==
I should be able to do this, assuming the pack arrives in good
shape. Just went through some misery with some packs that Sellam
needed reading because the person who wanted them read didn't
know how to correctly pack and ship a 2315 cartridge (you don't
pack them 6 in a box with a little bubble wrap between them if
you expect them to spin when they get here).
Here's the deal...
I have two diablo alignment cartridges. I have 21 disk packs, 12 sector.
I am happy to give them all to the person who has the best chance to copy
the 21 packs to some media that I can read.
I am south of Boston, MA, USA.
I will also gladly give up the three diablo drives I have as well...
I have no controller (or else I'd do the reading myself) and no time (same
result).
Joe Heck
Hi Al
I was hoping you might have the answer for this one.
I just got a HP2113E. I've not been able to use it because
it wants to have a battery connected. There is suppose to
be a battery simulator plug for these. I'm looking for
any schematic or part information for this item?
Do you have this or any schematics for the supply. It
seems to be the same as the 21MXX type B supply that
is in the CE manual on your web page?
Thanks
Dwight
>If they come up to the random-character screen (no "*** COMMODORE BASIC ***"
>banner)
I've run into about 1/2 dozen PET's over the years which have had ROM's go
bad. Seems to be a real problem with the devices Commodore used.
Often the symptom is as described above, sometimes it works "a bit" and then
dies (depends where the code is corrupted).
You can get most of the PET ROM images from the VICE simulator archive.
Regards,
--
dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Vintage computing equipment collector.
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
Hi Al
I'll see you tonight.
Dwight
>From: aek(a)spies.com
>
>
>Oops! got to remember to check the headers. Meant
>for Al Kossow.
>
>--
>
>recvd..
>
>I have a schem set in the truck right now if you want to borrow
>it. Usual time, usual place.
>
>
Oops! got to remember to check the headers. Meant
for Al Kossow.
--
recvd..
I have a schem set in the truck right now if you want to borrow
it. Usual time, usual place.
Oops! got to remember to check the headers. Meant
for Al Kossow.
Sorry
Dwight
>From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwight.elvey(a)amd.com>
>
>Hi Al
> I was hoping you might have the answer for this one.
>I just got a HP2113E. I've not been able to use it because
>it wants to have a battery connected. There is suppose to
>be a battery simulator plug for these. I'm looking for
>any schematic or part information for this item?
>Do you have this or any schematics for the supply. It
>seems to be the same as the 21MXX type B supply that
>is in the CE manual on your web page?
>Thanks
>Dwight
>
>
>