20 Jun
2004
20 Jun
'04
2:39 p.m.
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote:
It would be neat to know how the Egyptians built the
pyramids, but we have
cranes and stuff for that today, so even if we knew their methods, is it
really practical to teach them in engineering school?
No modern cranes or other machinery can come even close to building
the 3 Orion pyramids on the Giza plateau or the Baalbek stone platform
in the mountains of Lebanon. The only technology that can build such
structures is antigravity, which is how they were actually built.
Yes, get this, technology was more advanced many thousands of years ago
than it is today. Devolution is all around us. The devolution of the
past 20 y or so that Tony and others lament is merely a continuation of
the devolution that has been going on for the past 4000 years, ever since
the year 2024 BCE when our cosmic ancestors and teachers, the Anunnaki,
were overthrown and forced off this planet by the dark extraterrestrial
reptilian race I call Yahwists, who are the force behind Judeo-Xtianity
(the "God" entity is actually them, those galactic criminals).
This tragedy occurred because of a security hole in the ancient computer
systems of Anunnaki (to bring this on topic). The Yahwists managed to
introduce a virus into Anunnaki's central command mainframe at their
NOC on Mt. Moriah (which became Jerusalem centuries later) and generated
commands to launch their nuclear missiles against their major cities
(including Sodom and Gomorrah), their spaceport in the Sinai peninsula,
and their key technological base on Mt. Katherine. The destruction was
complete when the Jewish horde (with Yahweh's UFO flying overhead) overran
Jericho. Legendary records of this lost Golden Age remained in the
Library of Alexandria, but the Christians took care of that.
Oh, and the Giza pyramid complex is NOT ~4500 years old as commonly
believed. It is actually about 12500 y old, if not more. The 3 pyramids
are arranged exactly as the belt stars of Orion: Zeta Orionis, Epsilon
Orionis and Delta Orionis. The Great Pyramid is not the Pyramid of Cheops
or Khufu, it's the pyramid of Zeta Orionis. The catch, however, that the
astronomical alignments in the Giza complex (yes, complex, it was completely
designed as a single unit before any one piece was built) do not match
the stars as they appear in the sky today, but they match the stars as
they appeared 12500 y ago. (The change is due to the precession of Earth's
axis: the North Pole points at Polaris today, but 12500 y ago it pointed
at Vega, as it will again in another 12500 y or so. The complete
precessional cycle is 25920 y.) The extensive rain erosion on the Sphinx
suggests a similar date.
MS
20 Jun
20 Jun
2:54 p.m.
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Michael Sokolov wrote:
This tragedy occurred because of a security hole in
the ancient computer
systems of Anunnaki (to bring this on topic).
Oh, good thing you brought this back on topic. I thought you were going
to continue the post as a whole message of nerdy sci-fi rantings.
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3:11 p.m.
New subject: Ancient Electronics (was Re: List charter mods & headcount... ;
This tragedy
occurred because of a security hole in the ancient computer
systems of Anunnaki (to bring this on topic).
Oh, good thing you brought this back
on topic. I thought you were going
to continue the post as a whole message of nerdy sci-fi rantings. 
3:17 p.m.
This tragedy
occurred because of a security hole in the ancient computer
systems of Anunnaki (to bring this on topic).
Oh, good thing you brought this back on topic. I thought you were going
to continue the post as a whole message of nerdy sci-fi rantings. 
7:56 p.m.
ROLF. I haven't laughed this hard in sooooo long!
Great! Damn, I can't stop laughing.
Brilliant.
This tragedy occurred because of a security hole in
the ancient computer
systems of Anunnaki (to bring this on topic).
Awesome.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Michael.
Bill
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Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 22:40
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Modern Electronics (was Re: List charter mods &
headcount... ;
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote:
It would be neat to know how the Egyptians built
the pyramids,
but we have
cranes and stuff for that today, so even if we
knew their methods, is it
really practical to teach them in engineering school?
No modern cranes or other machinery can come even close to building
the 3 Orion pyramids on the Giza plateau or the Baalbek stone platform
in the mountains of Lebanon. The only technology that can build such
structures is antigravity, which is how they were actually built.
Yes, get this, technology was more advanced many thousands of years ago
than it is today. Devolution is all around us. The devolution of the
past 20 y or so that Tony and others lament is merely a continuation of
the devolution that has been going on for the past 4000 years, ever since
the year 2024 BCE when our cosmic ancestors and teachers, the Anunnaki,
were overthrown and forced off this planet by the dark extraterrestrial
reptilian race I call Yahwists, who are the force behind Judeo-Xtianity
(the "God" entity is actually them, those galactic criminals).
This tragedy occurred because of a security hole in the ancient computer
systems of Anunnaki (to bring this on topic). The Yahwists managed to
introduce a virus into Anunnaki's central command mainframe at their
NOC on Mt. Moriah (which became Jerusalem centuries later) and generated
commands to launch their nuclear missiles against their major cities
(including Sodom and Gomorrah), their spaceport in the Sinai peninsula,
and their key technological base on Mt. Katherine. The destruction was
complete when the Jewish horde (with Yahweh's UFO flying overhead) overran
Jericho. Legendary records of this lost Golden Age remained in the
Library of Alexandria, but the Christians took care of that.
Oh, and the Giza pyramid complex is NOT ~4500 years old as commonly
believed. It is actually about 12500 y old, if not more. The 3 pyramids
are arranged exactly as the belt stars of Orion: Zeta Orionis, Epsilon
Orionis and Delta Orionis. The Great Pyramid is not the Pyramid of Cheops
or Khufu, it's the pyramid of Zeta Orionis. The catch, however, that the
astronomical alignments in the Giza complex (yes, complex, it was
completely
designed as a single unit before any one piece was built) do not match
the stars as they appear in the sky today, but they match the stars as
they appeared 12500 y ago. (The change is due to the precession
of Earth's
axis: the North Pole points at Polaris today, but 12500 y ago it pointed
at Vega, as it will again in another 12500 y or so. The complete
precessional cycle is 25920 y.) The extensive rain erosion on the Sphinx
suggests a similar date.
MS
21 Jun
21 Jun
12:19 a.m.
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 02:39, Michael Sokolov wrote:
The only technology that can build such
structures is antigravity, which is how they were actually built.
Heh :-)
That reminds me, I must read Nick Cook's 'Hunt for Zero Point' sometime.
Supposedly a good read with some pretty compelling evidence.
Nothing like a good conspiracy theory. I do have some good photos of the
modern day remains of whatever the Nazi's *were* researching out in
Poland 60 years ago which makes for interesting speculation. Who knows
what was being attempted there.
cheers
Jules
12:55 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: RE: Modern Electronics (was Re: List charter mods & headcount... ;
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 02:39, Michael Sokolov wrote:
And what were the Germans researching in Poland 60 years ago? Enquiring
minds want to know! :)
I find allot of the magical technology needed to make ancient structures is
not that magical at all. All that's needed is good planning, somebody who
can do simple math, allot of labor, and the will to expend allot of time and
energy to get the thing done. I don't think the pyramids of Egypt are a
technological marvel, they are a marvel of execution. Ask somebody to spend
most of their summer out in a desert pulling massive rocks up a ramp for 40
years (their whole dam life back then) so Bill Gates can have a cushy place
to rot in and people would tell you to go pound salt. If some cleric wakes
up one day and says Allah needs a pyramid built in the desert in his name
now you have millions of dedicated volunteers to do the job and it WILL get
done. We tend to forget that these magical ancient people (with help from
aliens) did get the angles needed to keep the structure stable wrong and had
to start over or change the blueprints (after working dozens of years) when
the pyramid fell apart.
People get too caught up in the current way things are done to see that
there are very simple ways to do the same exact thing if you have enough
labor and the will to do it.
Do you need a college trained surveyor team with laser rangefinders and
massive earthmovers to flatten a few acres so you can build a pyramid that
doesn't have a slant in it? No, you don't. Have a few thousand people clear
off the sand till they hit rock, then dig small channels every so many yards
that intersect every so often. Flood the ground with water and then just
clear the rock until it at water lever all over and your done (except for
letting the water drain or evaporate and filling in the channels).
Have an orchard that has too many birds eating your crop? You can either
rent a few plains to spray pesticide or do what the Chinese did and have the
village show up with sticks and beat the tree branches causing all the birds
to fly around scared with no place to land until they die of exhaustion and
all fall down dead (seen it done in a video and it doesn't take that long,
very simple method if you have the people to do it). Chinese built whole
runways for B-29's in record time during WWII with just human labor and
common sense building techniques. That country has a history of doing clever
things to get the job done, now that they can make their own computer chips
and are coming out of the economic stone age (meaning instead of being cheap
labor for outside companies they are building the industry up themselves)
other countries better look the out.
TZ
The only technology that can build such
structures is antigravity, which is how they were actually built.
Heh :-)
That reminds me, I must read Nick Cook's 'Hunt for Zero Point' sometime.
Supposedly a good read with some pretty compelling evidence.
Nothing like a good conspiracy theory. I do have some good photos of the
modern day remains of whatever the Nazi's *were* researching out in
Poland 60 years ago which makes for interesting speculation. Who knows
what was being attempted there.
cheers
Jules
1:32 a.m.
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 12:55, Teo Zenios wrote:
And what were the Germans researching in Poland 60
years ago? Enquiring
minds want to know! :)
Well antigravity research is the most common theory. The underground
complex is absolutely enormous, complemented by strange surface
structures buried within the countryside (the large concrete henge is
the one most often referred to).
Common sense seems to say that there's no reason to suspect that the
claims aren't true - of course how far the research went is quite
another matter :-)
Maybe I'll pick up Nick Cook's book this week sometime. I'm curious as
to what evidence he presents for the Nazi research being taken over by
the US at the end of the war.
I find allot of the magical technology needed to make
ancient structures is
not that magical at all. All that's needed is good planning, somebody who
can do simple math, allot of labor, and the will to expend allot of time and
energy to get the thing done.
Absolutely. It's interesting how research in the last few years has
demonstrated that ancient civilisations knew far more about astronomy
than anyone previously expected though (I mean the fact that these
people knew way more than they were previously given credit for, not the
"maybe aliens helped them" angle :-)
But as you say, the creation of the structures themselves can be
explained away by lots of planning and physical labour.
Occasionally archaelogists do try and propose a link between ancient
civilisations and magic (and / or aliens) - Graham Hancock seems to be
at the forefront of these. :-)
We tend to forget that these magical ancient people
(with help from
aliens) did get the angles needed to keep the structure stable wrong and had
to start over or change the blueprints (after working dozens of years) when
the pyramid fell apart.
Well for the most part they got it right - the Bent Pyramid at Dahshur
is the most notable exception. Very impressive engineering though.
Anyway, I don't think I've ever been so far off topic ;-)
cheers
Jules
7:05 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk>
Well for the most part they got it right - the Bent
Pyramid at Dahshur
is the most notable exception. Very impressive engineering though.
cheers
Jules
Don't forget the ruined pyramid at Meidum - built too steep ( perhaps the
aliens were on "SMASH" ) and the other "stepped" pyramids.The pyramids
of
the 5th dynasty were very poor , with rough quarried stone not squared ;
whilst those of the middle kingdom were built by the equivalent of our
modern "cowboy" builders - Amenemhat III 's at Dahsur ( not your bent one )
was made of mud brick and has mostly crumbled - perhaps they held an early
"big brother" programme there.
There again, perhaps they used pee cees.
Whoever the aliens were they should be ashamed - 42 !!!????
Geoff.
8:28 a.m.
New subject: DEC at MIT
Just a mention that when it was looking like DEC was gone from the flea
markets, This month there was a VT-180 Robin, which I snared, and a
Rainbow w/Harddrive and upright stand, which I left ffor the next lucky
customer.
Also a lot of interesting Mac and Sun, some Atari game machines. Great
overall.
OT: PC/Pentium400's are at the $10 point now, which I take as a greenlight
to
toss some of the more boring (yes,PC's) of the like or just less so that
I've saved.
The next MIT flea is the day after the VCFe, so I may lose out on a few
deals
to some other lucky collector that month.
John A.
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From: Geoffrey Thomas <geoffreythomas(a)onetel.net.uk>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Modern Electronics (was Re: List charter mods & headcount... ;
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk>
Well for the most part they got it right - the Bent
Pyramid at Dahshur
is the most notable exception. Very impressive engineering though.
cheers
Jules
Don't forget the ruined pyramid at Meidum - built too steep ( perhaps the
aliens were on "SMASH" ) and the other "stepped" pyramids.The pyramids
of
the 5th dynasty were very poor , with rough quarried stone not squared ;
whilst those of the middle kingdom were built by the equivalent of our
modern "cowboy" builders - Amenemhat III 's at Dahsur ( not your bent one )
was made of mud brick and has mostly crumbled - perhaps they held an early
"big brother" programme there.
There again, perhaps they used pee cees.
Whoever the aliens were they should be ashamed - 42 !!!????
Geoff.
12:08 p.m.
New subject: DEC at MIT
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, John Allain wrote:
The next MIT flea is the day after the VCFe, so I may
lose out on a few
deals to some other lucky collector that month.
Oh really? You mean on Sunday? What time does it start? With any luck
I'll be able to attend just to get a taste of the east coast electronics
flea market flavor.
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12:43 p.m.
New subject: DEC at MIT
I can't go, but can someone watch for old PDP-11 stuff
for me (if you don't want it for yourself)?
Ashley
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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:08 PM
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Subject: Re: DEC at MIT
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, John Allain wrote:
The next MIT flea is the day after the VCFe, so I may
lose out on a few
deals to some other lucky collector that month.
Oh really? You mean on Sunday? What time does it start? With any luck
I'll be able to attend just to get a taste of the east coast electronics
flea market flavor.
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13 Jul
13 Jul
6:31 p.m.
Michael Sokolov wrote:
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
wrote:
No modern cranes or other machinery can come even close to building
the 3 Orion pyramids on the Giza plateau or the Baalbek stone platform
in the mountains of Lebanon. The only technology that can build such
structures is antigravity, which is how they were actually built.
Why anti-gravity ??? All anti-gravity can do is move the stone blocks?
How where they cut? Why were they built out quarryed stone, if the same
level of technology implies matter transport at the atomic level then
they could be built instead from the raw stone? Technology is faster or
bigger not allways better.
Ben.
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