- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ggs＠shiresoft.com

Hi, It has come to my attention that a CDC Cyber 180-960 is available. Apparently this is from a supplier that was supporting Vandenburg AFB (California) with spares. Since Vendenburg is decommissioning it?s Cyber systems, the supplier wants to get rid of the spare machine that they have. I think the supplier just want the machine ?to go away? so the price is likely to be negligible. Please contact me off-list if interested and I?ll get you in touch with the relevant folks. TTFN - Guy

6 years, 9 months

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Datapoint 8600 system in Little Rock

by aek＠bitsavers.org

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Datapoint-8600-and-Peripherals/192961883648 anyone nearby? I'd like to get it, but I have no way to pick it up

6 years, 9 months

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Emulex SC11 Documentation Wanted

by nf6x＠nf6x.net

I'm looking for documentation covering a board set which came with my new PDP-11/34A. It looks like an Emulex SC11 disk controller, but it appears to be a newer version than what is covered in the 1979 manual scan which I found on Bitsavers. I have pictures of the board set on my blog: http://www.nf6x.net/2019/06/emulex-sc11-disk-controller-documentation-wante… -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/

6 years, 9 months

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Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 04:15 AM 6/28/2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > I don't even know if a half a dollar is a note or a coin, and >that's without getting extra-pedantic and pointing out that about a >dozen countries call their currencies the "dollar". If you were a real pedant, you would've provided a list of dimensions of their half-dollar coins (or bills) in several common systems of measurement. - John

6 years, 9 months

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Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

by lproven＠gmail.com

This is *epic*. https://github.com/stepleton/5100NonExecutableROSDecode/blob/master/WRITEUP… -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ?R (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

6 years, 9 months

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Big news, re: mobile computing history

by cctalk＠snarc.net

Hello! I have a major announcement. :) It's time for version 2.0 of my book, "Abacus to smartphone: The evolution of mobile and portable computers," which I published on dead trees four years ago. This time, it's going to be a (free!) interactive website: the era of printed books is behind us. Please help me raise funds to make this happen. Funders will get exclusive access for the first month that the website is live (approximately the whole of August 2019). All of the details (such what's new/different) are here: https://fundrazr.com/b1WZ91?ref=ab_74VRia ... please check it out. Thanks!! -Evan

6 years, 9 months

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RSTS collection in the UK

by aek＠bitsavers.org

We received this offer, it probably makes more sense for someone in the UK to get the lot. Is there someone at a collecting institution that would like to take this on? Email me and I can forward your contact information to them. "I have a few disk packs available if you need them. (Please note I am in the UK). I also have a range of PDP-11 interface boards, a mix of dual, quad and Unibus. Is there anything in particular that you need? Finally I have a mass of RSTS related documentation, such as one copy of every edition of the US publication RSTS Porfessional magazine. Plus copies of RSTS and RT-11 operating system manuals, from RSTS Version 4a (1974) through to Version 10.1 (mid 1990s)."

6 years, 9 months

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One of the deeper dives into RISC vs CISC I've seen

by guykd＠optusnet.com.au

At 12:56 PM 25/06/2019 +0200, Liam Proven wrote: >On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 12:31, Tony Aiuto via cctalk ><cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: >> >> On a related note, a fun talk about ARM >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2045&v=_6sh097Dk5k > >Remarkable. Thanks for the link. Astounding. Very thought-provoking. Yes, it is. Fascinating! And right now jdownloader is fetching me a local copy, as opposed to previously not working with that one video for some inexplicable reason. So thanks for reminding me to try again. Guy

6 years, 9 months

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Origins of nameless semaphores and Apple's non-support thereof

by dave＠661.org

I recently tripped over the fact that MacOS does not support nameless POSIX semaphores. When attempting to use them, I get a complaint that they're deprecated. I can't fathom why Apple would do that. I found this post explaining it, albeit not very well: https://lists.apple.com/archives/darwin-kernel/2009/Apr/msg00010.html. It seems that Apple yanked out support, but elsewhere (https://intfiction.org/t/macos-frotz-users/41553/5) I'm told that Apple did it because BSD 4.4 didn't implement them. I was fairly sure that it did. Does anyone have a more satisfying answer? -- David Griffith dave at 661.org A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

6 years, 9 months

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PIC programmer

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hi all, I have, surprisingly, a non IBM 1130 related issue to ask about. I have a PIC16C55A-04/P 28 pin plastic MPU that I would like to reproduce --- but don't have a PIC debugger on hand and in fact don't know whether or not the existing device is code protected. (If it's code protected, then the path forward is going to be very different). Does anyone have the ability to check one of the chips that I have here is code protected so I can see if I should pursue this any further? Located in the San Francisco Bay Area but can mail a sample chip. Thanks! Brian

6 years, 9 months

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One of the deeper dives into RISC vs CISC I've seen

by lproven＠gmail.com

Goes a bit over my head but may be of interest: https://userpages.umbc.edu/~vijay/mashey.on.risc.html -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ?R (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

6 years, 9 months

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Anyone have any info on the obscure MX11 PDP-11 option?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Al Kossow > Does anyone know where Steve Rothman is? And also Bill Weiske, who's listed as the go-to for the KS11. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Anyone have any info on the obscure MX11 PDP-11 option?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Al Kossow > It is in the Dick Best Options and Modules List 197503 Ah, thanks for the pointer; I see it's listed as a "Memory Extension Control" - not sure that tells me much, alas! Interestingly, it's not in the earlier Options and Modules lists, e.g. June '74, but the KS11 is in that earlier list, so the MX11's a later addition. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Anyone have any info on the obscure MX11 PDP-11 option?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

While I asking on the TUHS list about the KS11, someone mentioned the MX11 Memory Extension Option, described as "enabl[ing] the usage of 128 KW memory (18-bit addressing range) ... developed by the Digital CSS (Computer Special Systems)". I'm not familiar with this, and I couldn't find anything about it. (It's not even in the Spare Modules Handbook, but then again, neither is the KS11 - although the KT11-B is). Some early UNIBUS device address lists (e.g. the '72 "peripherals and interfacing handbook") list up to six, from #1 at 777600-06 to #6 at 777650-56. I can _guess_ what it did, from the description above (e.g. maps an 8KB block, since there can be up to 6), but I was wondering if anyone had any hard data; e.g. memories based on using one BITD, etc, etc. Even a high level description (e.g. 'sat on the UNIBUS between the CPU and extra memory, and mapped a fixed block of low UNIBUS address space to a block controlled by a register') would be an improvement on what we have now, which is basically nothing. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Help with a qic data tape

by danr234＠gmail.com

Someone gave me your info. I have a very important tape I need help with. The tape spooled off the end and I need the belt put back on. Maybe getting the data off the tape too. It?s a 3m dc2120 120Megabyte tape. I?ve tried to do some practice tapes with junk tapes but I?m not confident enough to do it.

6 years, 9 months

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unix developed on 11/20 with 20 on panel or machine that just said pdp/11?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Steve Malikoff >> According to this page that Dennis Ritchie wrote ... >> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/picture.html > It states that their 11/20 had a KS-11 memory management unit, was > that mandatory for running v1 Unix on an 11/20? Well, the page does say they had two -11/20's, apparently one with and one without the KS11. Also, ISTR that the source for the -11/20 system has been recovered from a listing and run, and IIRC that didn't have the KS11 stuff in it (but it might be worth checking). Next to nothing is known of the KS11. Dennis' page "Odd Comments and Strange Doings in Unix": https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/odd.html has a story involving it (at the end), and that is all I've ever been able to find out about it (if anyone has anything more, please let me know). My original guess as to its functionality, from that, was that it's not part of the CPU, but a UNIBUS device, which perhaps maps addresses around (and definitely limits user access to I/O page addresses). It might also have mapped part of the UNIBUS space which the -11/20 CPU _can_ see (i.e. in the 0-56KB range) up to higher addresses, where 'extra' memory is configured. However, on re-reading that page, I see it apparently supported some sort of user/kernel mode distinction, which might have require a tie-in to the CPU. (But not necessarily; if there was a flop in the KS11 which stored the 'CPU mode' bit, it might be automatically cleared on all interrupts. Not sure how it would have handled traps, though. I'll have to enquire on the TUHS list. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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RK05 indicator lenses?

by mosst＠SDF.ORG

Hi All, I've recently acquired an RK05 that's missing the lenses for its indicator lights. Does anyone know a part number or where I could find replacements? I was hoping there would be a clue in the engineering drawings, but unfortuanetly not. Regards, -Tom mosst at sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

6 years, 9 months

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RSS Feeds

by trash80＠internode.on.net

I'm looking for some reliable RSS feeds (I appreciate they seem to be coming rare these days) to do with classic computers, preferably with a TRS-80 flavour but I'm not going to be precious about it. Google didn't seem to produce too many and those it did were either not there anymore or broken or monumentally out of date. If anyone can point me any where I'd be most grateful. Thank you Kevin Parker 0418 815 527

6 years, 9 months

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June 22

by sales＠elecplus.com

My warehouse will be open on Sat, Jun 22, from 10-3 for anyone that wants to come scrounge. I am 1 hour from San Antonio, or 2.5 hours from Austin, or 4-5 hours from Houston or Dallas (in decent traffic and weather). Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

6 years, 9 months

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unix developed on 11/20 with 20 on panel or machine that just said pdp/11?

by wkt＠tuhs.org

Paul Koning wrote: >> The 1971 Unix Programmer's Manual mentions their 11/20 had 24 KB >> (surely KW?) memory rather than 28KW. > I would assume kW. In the PDP11 world we didn't normally speak of > bytes or kbytes, certainly not for memory and often not elsewhere either. The PDP-11 Unix source: https://github.com/DoctorWkt/unix-jun72/blob/master/pages/e00-01 says: orig = 0 core = orig+40000 / specifies beginning of user's core ecore = core+20000 / specifies end of user's core (4096 words) So: 40000= 16KB for the kernel, 20000= 8KB for the user program. Cheers, Warren

6 years, 9 months

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unix developed on 11/20 with 20 on panel or machine that just said pdp/11?

by wkt＠tuhs.org

According to this page that Dennis Ritchie wrote, the original PDP-11 they used was indeed an 11/20 but it was before there were PDP-11 model numbers: https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/picture.html And, of course, the PDP-7 Unix development came before the PDP-11 version :) Cheers, Warren

6 years, 9 months

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unix developed on 11/20 with 20 on panel or machine that just said pdp/11?

by wkt＠tuhs.org

Steve Malikoff wrote: > It states that their 11/20 had a KS-11 memory management unit, was that > mandatory for running v1 Unix on an 11/20? I case-insensitively grepped for 'ks.*11' in the Github repository here: https://github.com/DoctorWkt/unix-jun72 and I didn't see a mention. > The 1971 Unix Programmer's Manual mentions their > 11/20 had 24 KB (surely KW?) memory rather than 28KW. 28KB is right. The simh.cfg from the repo says: set cpu 11/20 set cpu 32K Cheers, Warren

6 years, 9 months

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Teac FD55-GF drives wanted for experiments in reading Twiggy floppies

by spacewar＠gmail.com

Is anyone willing to sell me a few Teac FD55-GF or -GFR floppy drives (PC 5.25-in high density) for less than eBay prices? I want to experiment with modifying them to read Apple Twiggy diskettes, primarily by adding a microstepping driver for the head positioning. I specifically want Teac drives because there are reasonably good service manuals on them, and I don't want to deal with multiple brands of drives. The handwritten labels on the Twiggy diskettes I recently acquired make it appear that they were used for prerelease Lisa development. I will be getting more of them in a few weeks, from the same source.

6 years, 9 months

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Wanting to get my first classic computer

by raywjewhurst＠gmail.com

Hello all, I have been a student of computer history for years but have only learned how to use classic machines vicariously through emulation. I would really like to get my own classic computer but I don't know where to begin. For one, I am on a very limited income and two I don't have a lot of space and finally I don't have much knowledge on the finer points of the older hardware i.e. terminals networking, etc. I would really like a Vaxstation but I have also considered a '90s workstation such as an SGI Indy or a SparcStation. I am pretty fluent in both VMS and Unix so any of those would work. So where do I look besides e-Bay? I see some available here but none near me. I'm in the Detroit area. Any advice would be appreciated. I do know that I do now want a Mac or old PC. I would like something more exotic. (Although it might me neat to own a Rainbow.) Thanks Ray

6 years, 9 months

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unix developed on 11/20 with 20 on panel or machine that just said pdp/11?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

unix developed on 11/20 with 20 on panel or machine that just said pdp/11? Help - have a? nice? looking? 11/20? plus? a? weird analog? computer and? a? Nike guidance? gyro platform? for? AJAX (? 2? gyros loose? need? prints? to? rewire? correctly)? ? ? in? trade? for? and? extra? ribbon Mike? we? had. so anyway today's? questions -? bell labs? UNIX? machine? ?says? 11? or? 11/20 -anyone have schematics or wiring chart? for NIKE AJAX? Gyro Plantform? Drop offlist? as? not? to? clutter? things thanks? Ed#

6 years, 9 months

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Dumping MC6801 ROM contents.

by mattislind＠gmail.com

I have been asked to dump the ROM contents out of the MC6801 in the Ericsson PC keyboard to get the MAME emulation fully working. The guy that is doing the emulation says this is the only thing missing and would be nice if I could help him getting it finalized. It is supposed to be quite easy. Put the MC6801 in test mode 0 and provide RESET vectors for an external EPROM that has a program that dumps the contents. Maybe in Intel HEX over the serial port. Should be quite straight forward. But I have thousands of other things to deal with so if someone already made such a small program I gladly use it instead of making my own. Even though I done some 6800 and 6809 assembler once upon a time, it was 30 years ago, so I imagine it will take some time to get it working. Is there anyone that already done this? /Mattis

6 years, 9 months

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PDP 11/15

by useddec＠gmail.com

I bought a large package of DEC gear last year and it came with a PDP 11/15. I have no need for this classic, and put it on the list. A few people responded, but because of my problems, I never followed up with them. For those who responded, I apologize for dropping the ball. If anyone is interested in it, please contact me off list. BTW, I have started on pulling a few things out of the warehouse. Thanks, Paul

6 years, 9 months

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vaxstation ii machine check & diags efficacy

by joezatarski＠gmail.com

> It's a VAXstation II/GPX. I'm trying to install VMS 5.5 (from CD if it matters; there is a CMD CQD-200 or -220 as the only storage controller) and routinely getting machine check exceptions. > > Standalone backup always boots. Sometimes I get an exception the moment I hit <enter> on a restore; sometimes in the middle of the restore, sometimes it runs to successful completion. > > VMS never boots. Sometimes I get as far as the date prompt (I took out the battery), sometimes it gets a little farther, frequently it's before anything appears on the console at all. > > The exceptions booting VMS occur the same if I attach another disk with VMS 5.5 already installed; if I replace the KA630 and M7609 with a KA655 and M7622, it all seems to run fine. > > The KA630 power-on diagnostics all pass, but... it smells like a memory fault to me. What are the odds there could be a memory fault that isn't caught by the diags? > > ok > bear. > > -- > until further notice Well, if the KA630 diagnostics are anything like the KA650 diagnostics, the power on self test is not too thorough as I learned. I found 10 bad DRAMs on a KA650, the POST only found 2 of them. The rest I had to test by running tests from the monitor with tighter parameters. You should get into the console monitor on the KA630 and see if you can get a list of tests to be run with the TEST command. Sometimes they have parameters, and you can specify more thorough tests to be run. Keep in mind, they may take considerably longer to run than the POST does. I'm speaking from KA650 experience here, but I was able to run the MEM_Data test on all of memory with an address increment of 1. It took about 4 or 5 hours to complete I think, for 8MB of RAM.

6 years, 9 months

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Apollo Computer Article

by brain＠jbrain.com

Probably too light for folks in here, but maybe some will find some interest (apologies if https://www.fastcompany.com/90362562/this-computer-changed-world-youve-neve… -- Jim Brain brain at jbrain.com www.jbrain.com

6 years, 9 months

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Another disk pack inspection unit on ebay

by bobalan＠sbcglobal.net

See: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Computer-Link-665-Series-600-Disc-Pack-Ins… Bob -- Vintage computers and electronics www.dvq.com www.tekmuseum.com www.decmuseum.org

6 years, 9 months

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DEC QBUS power supply minimum load

by dkgrizzly＠thewaffleiron.net

I have a BA23 chassis that was used to hold 3 DSSI disks. There was a different backplane with the load resistors instead of QBUS slots. There was also a large capacitor bank installed along side the DSSI disk in the place of the QBUS slots. I can dig around next week when I go back home if you still need the resistor sizes DEC used. -David Kuder

6 years, 9 months

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Missing posts in archive and no Subject: line

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Joe Zatarski joezatarski at gmail.com > The posts you mentioned were sent to cctech. .. that list is > moderated .. You'll notice these posts are now in both archives. Ah, that could be it. I thought I'd found them in the Subject: thread archive at the same time they weren't in the other, but maybe my memory is faulty. > From: Eric Christopherson > the reply to the message headed "No subject" .. actually seems to > have a blank subject, as a result of which it doesn't seem to be > possible to even view it (since there's no link to click)! Which is how I discovered those messages which weren't (yet) in the archive; I took the URL for the previous message, edited it to point to the next message, and discovered the 'missing' ones. (Apparently the list software makes messages available via the Web interface before they've been approved and added to the archive.) > John H. Reinhardt > And now I know why your posts always break the threading in > Thunderbird... Hey,I don't want my emailbox clogged up with this stuff! :-) Noel

6 years, 9 months

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vaxstation ii machine check & diags efficacy

by bear＠typewritten.org

It's a VAXstation II/GPX. I'm trying to install VMS 5.5 (from CD if it matters; there is a CMD CQD-200 or -220 as the only storage controller) and routinely getting machine check exceptions. Standalone backup always boots. Sometimes I get an exception the moment I hit <enter> on a restore; sometimes in the middle of the restore, sometimes it runs to successful completion. VMS never boots. Sometimes I get as far as the date prompt (I took out the battery), sometimes it gets a little farther, frequently it's before anything appears on the console at all. The exceptions booting VMS occur the same if I attach another disk with VMS 5.5 already installed; if I replace the KA630 and M7609 with a KA655 and M7622, it all seems to run fine. The KA630 power-on diagnostics all pass, but... it smells like a memory fault to me. What are the odds there could be a memory fault that isn't caught by the diags? ok bear. -- until further notice

6 years, 9 months

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PDP 11/15

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Bob Smith > there have been refs to another more modern unit, based on LSI[-]11 > or later chip set I've never heard of that, and I wonder if DEC would really have released a new product with the same name as an old one (the two PDP-11/10's are different, as I'm not sure many of the first ones were sold, but a ton of -11/15's were). > I wonder if it is one of those or the orig. This one is one of the -11/20 type ones. > From: Paul Koning > I only ever heard of an 11/15 as the 11/20 relabeled for OEM > markets According to the "pdp11/15/20/r20 processor handbook", 1972 edition (i.e. the second edition of the -11/20 proc handbook), the /15 has (table on pg. 2) a "KC11" processor, which seems to be a KA11 with only a single interrupt request line. (Maybe it has a replacement card for the M824, with only a single interrupt line wired up?) There's a 'KF11-A' option which upgrades it to multi-line (pg. 4), for which there claims to be a manual (DEC-11-HKFA-D), but there are none online, but from other traces online it does seem that some people had to get and install it. So maybe the stuff in the proc manual isn't just marketing wibble. That same manual claims that power-fail restart was standard in the KA11; it was an option for the KC11, the KP11-A. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Teletype 5620 schematics

by aek＠bitsavers.org

came across these this eve, probably only of interest to Seth, since he has one http://bitsavers.org/pdf/att/5620/schematic

6 years, 9 months

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Wanting to get my first classic computer

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Ray Jewhurst > I would really like to get my own classic computer but I don't know > where to begin. Two questions you need to sort out in your mind, to decide, are i) do you want something with a bit-mapped video screen, or are you happy with ASCII serial line only, and ii) what are you prepared to do for mass storage. E.g. if you really want video, you're probably looking at something like a VAXStation or so; if ASCII will do you, a QBUS PDP-11 might be a good start, as with patience eBay can yield a cheap chassis, CPU etc (although in the last year or so the really cheap stuff seems to have dried up, alas). Noel

6 years, 9 months

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CC users in Ireland

by ronan.scaife＠dcu.ie

Dear All, At 03:30 PM 17/06/2019 +0100, Ronan Scaife wrote: > Dear All, > > I am particularly interested to make contact with Ireland-based > classic computer collectors or users. on 18 June 2019, Guy Dunphy wrote: > Message: 8 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:34:11 +1000 From: Guy Dunphy > <guykd at optusnet.com.au> To: ronan.scaife at dcu.ie, "General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: > irish cctech subscribers Message-ID: > <3.0.6.32.20190618093411.011eaad8 at mail.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: > text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Ronan, I know you meant 'in > Ireland.' But I can't resist: I'm of Irish ancestry, though born and > residing in Sydney Australia. Also "My particular interest is in DEC > pdp-8 and pdp11 machines." Never thought I'd actually have any, until > unexpected events of 2018 and ongoing. Now so far I have two PDP-8/S > to restore ( http://everist.org/NobLog/20181104_PDP-8S.htm ) and two > PDP-11: Rack 1: PDP 11/44 and one RLO2 diskpack drive. Rack 2: PDP > 11/34, two RLO2 diskpack drives, and one RK05 disk pack drive. Seems > to be a complete, intact system. I have the side panels, various > blanking panels, and assorted documentation. Still making arrangements > for a long-term space to set them up and work on them. Regards, Guy > Dunphy >> My particular interest is in DEC pdp-8 and pdp11 machines. Dear Guy, good to hear from you! My interest stems from the generosity of DEC Galway, Ireland, who helped start my (DSP, speech) research career in the early 1980s with a generous donation of 2x 11/34s with RL02 and RX02. I also have a MINC (laboratory instrumented 11/23) from Trinity College Dublin. Quite recently, we acquired a pdp8/e (made in Galway) with RK05 and PC04 >from Dundalk Institute of Technology. I haven't dared to power this up, but a few of my students have worked on a replica pdp8/e front panel patched into a simh emulation on a PC. I look forward to reading your blog. My medium term plan is to interest the National Museum or equivalent in a section on (especially Irish-made) technology, so the email was primarily addressed to people on the island of Ireland. However, most of what I have learned over the years has been from guys around the world like you who are so generous with their information. Best Wishes, Ronan Scaife -- -- * *S?anadh R?omhphoist/Email Disclaimer* *T? an r?omhphost seo agus aon chomhad a sheoltar leis faoi r?n agus is lena ?s?id ag an seola? agus sin amh?in ?. Is f?idir tuilleadh a l?amh anseo.? <https://sites.google.com/view/seanadh-riomhphoist>* *This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Read more here. <https://sites.google.com/view/dcu-email-disclaimer>* * -- <https://www.facebook.com/DCU/> <https://twitter.com/DublinCityUni> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/dublin-city-university> <https://www.instagram.com/dublincityuniversity/?hl=en> <https://www.youtube.com/user/DublinCityUniversity>

6 years, 9 months

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Whose site is 9track.net?

by cctalk＠snarc.net

Does anyone know who owns 9track.net? I couldn't find any contact information there.

6 years, 9 months

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Looking for a Intel multibus 88/45... (minor corrections...)

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I'm in the process of restoring an Intel 310 system. I had it working to the point where it was trying to boot - when the 88/45 processor began to fail intermittently and then solidly. My debugging seems to indicate that the problem is in a PLD - which is a serious bummer. I have preserved the ROMS (which have built-in diagnostics/debugging and boot capability for both floppy and Winchester hard disks) as files. I will make these ROM files available to Al for posting on bitsavers. If someone on this list has an Intel 88/45 (or Intel 310) who would be willing to part with it, please contact me off list. I can to either do a trade or cash purchase... Cheers, Lyle -- 73 NM6Y Bickley Consulting West Inc. https://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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Two AT&T Unix PC/3B1/7300 systems available

by nospam212-cctalk＠yahoo.com

I have two AT&T Unix PCs that I am offering up to interested parties as described below: 1) AT&T Unix PC with the standard 67 MB HDD, this is the base system and three button mouse. The right arrow key on the keyboard is broken but the key cap is still included. This unit is also missing the keyboard cable though I should have it around somewhere and so it might turn up at some point at which time I'd send it along. It has been several years since this was last powered on and I don't recall if there are any passwords or what they might be so you may have to hack your way into the system. Had UNIX System V installed but don't recall what other software may be installed as well. Sold as is. 2) AT&T Unix PC. This unit comes in the original box, with keyboard and mouse and the following documentation: a) AT&T Unix PC Owner's Manual b) AT&T Unix PC Getting Started Manual c) AT&T Unix System V Utilities Manual d) AT&T Unix PC Communications Management Manual e) AT&T Unit PC System Software As with the above system, it has been a while since it was last powered up and I don't recall if there were any passwords or what so may need to hack into the OS. Also not sure what software was installed besides the OS. Sold as is. I believe I may have some more documentation around but haven't located it yet, if I do discover it I will offer to send it along to anyone who picks up these systems. If you need any other info please let me know and I'll send it along. Will entertain any offers at all and prefer local pickup but I am fine with packing and shipping if you pay for it. I'm offering them up to the list first though if there isn't any interest here will possibly offer on eBay or if someone knows other good places to list systems please let me know. Would like to move them out. Will also have several other systems for sale/trade/haul away very soon as I am clearing out a lot of stuff. Best regards, David Williams

6 years, 9 months

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Missing posts in archive and no Subject: line

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

So, a couple of posts yesterday did not show up in the date archive: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/date.html which is how I read the list. They are: Software for Fairy YL-23 IC tester wanted http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048094.html http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048096.html DEC KA650 VAX memory troubleshooting (video) http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048095.html http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048097.html I'm not sure what happened, but I note the next post had no Subject: line, and I'm wondering if that caused it. So best to make sure your posts have Subject: lines. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Apollo Computer Article

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Jim Brain > Probably too light for folks in here, but maybe some will find some > interest Good high-level view of the importance of the AGC work. For those who want technical details, there's a Web-site (I can dig up the URL if anyone wants) about the recovery of the software, and running it under and emulator; and now there are people doing the hardware too (e.g. the guy Al pointed at). Noel

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DEC KA650 VAX memory troubleshooting (video)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Joe Zatarski > OK, so where should a thing like this go: ... Anybody got a decent > place to upload that? As always, the CHWiki is available for any vintage computer stuff. I can set up an account for anyone here who wants one. I have posted similar information for PDP-11 memory, e.g. here: http://gunkies.org/wiki/QBUS_memories#Diagnosing_DRAM_memory_failures http://gunkies.org/wiki/MSV11-J#Technical_information which seems to be a direct analogue of the stuff you have. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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irish cctech subscribers

by ronan.scaife＠dcu.ie

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6 years, 10 months

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Definicon DSI-020 software?

by cmhanson＠eschatologist.net

I?ve recently come into a Definicon DSI-020 coprocessor card, and would like the software that goes with it. Does anyone know where to find it? There?s a zip file that claims to be the DSI-020 software, but it?s actually the DSI-32 software: The DSI-32 is an NS32032 coprocessor card, while the DSI-020 is an MC68020 coprocessor card. They published an awful lot of information about their cards in BYTE so the DSI-020 shouldn?t be difficult to reverse-engineer but it?d be nice not to have to? -- Chris

6 years, 10 months

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looking for a Intel multibus 88/45...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I'm in the process of restoring an Intel 310 system. I had it working to the point where it was trying to boot - when the 88/45 processor began to fail intermittently and then solidly. My debugging seems to indicate that the problem is in a PLA - which is a serious bummer. I have preserved the ROMS (which have built-in diagnostics/debugging and boot capability for both floppy and Winchester hard disks). I will make the ROM images available to Al for posting on bitsavers. If someone on this list has an Intel 88/45 that would be willing to part with it, please contact me off list. Either a trade or cash purchase work for me... Cheers, Lyle -- 73 NM6Y Bickley Consulting West Inc. https://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

6 years, 10 months

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Missing posts in archive and no Subject: line

by joezatarski＠gmail.com

> So, a couple of posts yesterday did not show up in the date archive: > > http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/date.html > > which is how I read the list. They are: > > Software for Fairy YL-23 IC tester wanted > http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048094.html > http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048096.html > > DEC KA650 VAX memory troubleshooting (video) > http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048095.html > http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048097.html > > I'm not sure what happened, but I note the next post had no Subject: line, > and I'm wondering if that caused it. So best to make sure your posts have > Subject: lines. > > Noel This is a function of the way the two lists work, I think. The posts you mentioned were sent to cctech. As I understand it, that list is moderated to ensure it stays on topic. After they've been approved, they will make it onto cctalk as well. This causes a delay, and sometimes posts don't make it into the archive list until they are hours old. You'll notice these posts are now in both archives. The post with no subject had nothing to do with it, that's just a red herring. This is the behavior of the mailing list for as long as I remember, though I've only been on here a few years.

6 years, 10 months

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IBM PC-RT 6150 looking for help

by technoid6502＠gmail.com

On Sat, 2019-06-15 at 12:00 -0500, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > The hard disk seems to be stuck or the drives electronics are broken, > it > does not spin up. As these drives are quite rare, I'm looking for the > SCSI card (Model 6lX700l). Is it right, the PC-RT can boot off SCSI? > Hi. I have a suggestion. The generation of hard disks you are having trouble with frequently had a linear actuator and were auto-parking. If the parking function failed at power off, not an uncommon fault, the drive will fail to spin on power-on. An example of this sort of drive is the Seagate ST4096. The time-honored fix for this is to take the drive loose from all connections and, holding it in both hands with the face towards you, bring the face of the drive into your thigh as you raise your thigh to meet the face of the drive. The violence of this motion will serve to park the heads and the drive will spin right up when powered. I hope this solves your problem. Best of luck. Jeff

6 years, 10 months

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Modems and external dialers.

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Liam Proven > There was a certain simplicity and understandability about Win9x, > yes, but NT was far more reliable, even back in the NT 3 era. .. > So I moved to NT as soon as my kit could run it, and never looked > back. I was speaking from a user's perspective; I never did much coding under Windows (well, a fair amount under Cygwin, using only the portable I/O library, but that's not really _Windows_ programming). >From that perspective, 98SE was the sweet spot for me (I don't have any reliability issues, with the configs I run). I do have some XP machines, and the Windows 10 laptop, but most of mine run 98SE. Noel

6 years, 10 months

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360/20 retrieval in Nuremberg (Was: No subject)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Lawrence Wilkinson > Nothing to report other than what's at https://ibms360.co.uk Any partial results in trying to figure out a way to get all the stuff back from Nuremberg? You all may wind up having to rent a large truck yourselves, alas... Noel

6 years, 10 months

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