Re: Cleaning an old keyboard
Hey, that spiel would be a good start to a great article on the CHWiki,
'Cleaning keyboards'! (Not sure if any of the other replies contained
anything worth picking up.)
Noel
I have 6 Tek logic analyzer probes available.
I have one P6464 pattern generator probe with a message
about some bad channels (could have been the cable or pat
gen board, too).
There are 3 X P6452 analysis probes, and 2 X P6451.
Anybody need any of these?
Thanks,
Jon
On 9/21/19 10:26 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
> On 9/21/19 10:12 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
>> Is it effective to bake cookies in their jackets?
> I don't know, since i've never baked floppies. Chuck would know.
Yes, I do. Usual 58C temps that I use for tapes. Doesn't seem to
affect the jacket.
--Chuck
So I just discovered that there are three wildly different variants of the
M7821 Interrupt Control card. More here, with images:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/M782_Interrupt_Control
I'll have to dredge around and see if I can find circuit diagrams for them
all; they are wildly different, the -C has many fewer components than
the -B and -D, and the latter has a couple of delay lines.
Noel
PS: Sorry about that dis-directed message to Cindy; not quite sure what
I did wrong there.
> From: Jim Stephens
> I don't know how to contact the maintainer for manx
There was discussion recently about that, and I did manage (with help from
someone here who provided his email - thanks muchly!) to reach him. We were
discussing how I could help update things, but a hurricane came by, and
I dropped it; need to continue.
> Anyway I found that the entry for one of the entries is stale but the
> internet archive had captured the tar file with the information.
> ...
> One of the questions is whether archive.org entries are desirable or
> acceptible by the rules, and 2, whether the internet archive will be
> okay with that. I see frequently that Wikipedia entries retrieve and
> publish those links.
I can't see how either would be a problem (as you point out with Wikipedia).
As long as the bits are there, and won't go away (which I assume is true
of the IA) that should be OK.
Noel
Folks,
I have a couple of spare printers
1. Panasonic KX-P3626 wide carriage 24-pin dot matrix printer with
sheet and tractor feed. Free to anyone who wants it. If needed I can throw
in a box of music ruled fanfold paper.
Comes with some spare ribbons.
2. Amstrad DPM2000 narrow carriage 9 pin printer. Sheet and tractor
feed, but I can't spare a box of narrow paper.
Located in south Manchester, North West England. I haven't tested but will
do if there is any interest.
Dave Wade
G4UGM & EA7KAE
I looked for an image or record of the PDP8/L reference card, and one of
the entries which showed up was for manx.
I don't know how to contact the maintainer for manx but figure if
someone can comment here it would be better than me ratholing and still
not figuring it out.
Anyway I found that the entry for one of the entries is stale but the
internet archive had captured the tar file with the information.
PDP-8 Pocket Reference Card
http://manx-docs.org/details.php/1,5468https://web.archive.org/web/20151121165042/http://www.vaxarchive.org/pdp11/…
I did find this, and will try.
Is something not working? Is a URL out of date or offline? Feel free to
create a bug report <http://manx.codeplex.com/WorkItem/Create> on our
CodePlex project <http://manx.codeplex.com>
http://manx.codeplex.com/WorkItem/Create
One of the questions is whether archive.org entries are desirable or
acceptible by the rules, and 2, whether the internet archive will be
okay with that.? I see frequently that Wikipedia entries retrieve and
publish those links.
Thanks.
Jim
At 04:59 PM 22/09/2019 -0500, Thomas Raguso wrote:
>Update: I have also found IBM 500-series punch card equipment.
If you find any full boxes of blank IBM punch cards, please mention.
I might be able to afford postage on a few.
> 1970s HP computers
I'm probably going to cry when I see photos. (Because I'm in Australia.)
Guy
An ex DEC engineer offloaded some stuff that he had found in his attic.
https://i.imgur.com/413NSSL.jpg?1
It came together with a tektronix 1241 Logic Analyzer.
Someone that can tell more about it?
Then there were some DC100 tapes in a huge heap of TU58 diagnostic tapes
for VAX-11/730 and VAX-11/750 that looked different.
https://i.imgur.com/6n8yCxd.jpg?1
They were marked "BI-SYNC TRAINING TAPE" and "ASYNC TRAINING TAPE
TAP-895-103-1.0 3.04"
Anyone recognize what that could be?
BTW. What are the status of various 11/730 and 11/750 diagnostics on TU58.
Are those already dumped? It takes some time to work with TU58 so if
someone already done all this I might skip dealing with them.
I know of only one place that has TU58 dumps.
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html
Anywhere else?
/Mattis
So I have just acquired a copy of the service manual for the RP04 drive (ISS
model 733). Does anyone have an immediate need to look at this? If so, I can
put it on the top of the 'to scan' stack.
Noel
I was watching an early airing of "What's My Line", and they aired a
commercial by Remington Rand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DNG_bbHDE
The commercial starts about 19:30 and shows the Univac being used in a
weather prediction. Not much useful information, but the video is quite
interesting to watch.
Marvin
My MicroVAX 3100 gets stuck in boot with the leftmost 4 LEDs on, which
indicates it's executed some instructions from ROM.
That in turn may indicate that the ROMs are corrupt.
From
http://gentiane.org/~miod/machineroom/machines/digital/vax/3100-30/bare_mob…
it looks as if the ROMs are a pair of M27C1024s.
Mouser doesn't have those, but they do carry AT27C1024 in two different
speeds. Those look like they should work. It looks like my ROM burner
will support that, with an additional, not horrifically expensive, adapter.
The machine is probably a ka42b CPU (I can check when I get home). That in
turn suggests that the file simh/VAX/ka42b.bin (which is 256K, which is
nice, since that is two megabits) is probably the image I need.
So my major remaining question is: how are those chips laid out? Since
they're 16 bits wide, I assume that what I really have is a 64kword memory
image...but is one the bottom 32kwords and one the top? Or is one the left
16 bits of 64kwords, and the other the right 16 bits? In short, how do I
slice the image from simh to put it into the replacement ROMs?
Adam
>
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 22:27:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Ethan O'Toole <ethan at 757.org>
> Subject: PBXes at home
>
> A number of years ago I picked up a Lucent Merlin Legend system.
>
> --
> : Ethan O'Toole
>
I have a little Merlin 410 PBX at home, with the Conference and Music on
Hold plug-in modules.
--
Michael Thompson
Picked up an Intecolor 2400 terminal awhile back; it's a nice
VT100-compatible terminal with color enhancements. Unfortunately it's
missing the detachable keyboard. Probably a longshot, but anyone have one
of these lying around?
Thanks,
Josh
> From: Kevin Monceaux
> I'm not sure what it is about phone systems. ... I don't know why I'm
> doing this.
Oh, and the rest of us have a real use/need for old, slow, small (by modern
standards) systems that use a ton of power? :-)
Noel
The Microram was a multipurpose solid state memory chassis sold by EMM (Electronic Memories and Magnetics) with what we called later in the 1970's a "personality board" that plugged it into each different CPU's backplane. They sold a similar system (maybe even plug compatible at some level) with core planes under "Micromemory" brand name. I see we already have a "emm" directory in bitsavers with docs about some of their core products.
It's time for another batch of exciting stuff from my collection to find
its way into yours!
Today's batch:
Compaq Contura 4/25
Compaq LTE/286 Laptop
Compaq Portable III Operations Guide + System Software
Packard Bell PB414A Multi-Media PC
Radio Shack 1982 TRS-80 Microcomputer Catalog No. RSC-7
Radio Shack 1983 TRS-80 Microcomputer Catalog No. RSC-8
Radio Shack 1985 TRS-80 Microcomputer Catalog No. RSC-12
A Practical Guide to the Tandy 1000SX
Heath Computer Systems H-386 Desktop PC
Gravis MouseStick GMPU
Logitech Wingman Attack Joystick
Modular CIrcuit Technology PC EPROM Programmer
Atari CX22 Trak-Ball
Kingston DataCard KTM-DC16/127 Hard Disk/Memory Expansion
Data General How To Use The Nova Computers Manual
DEC Digital Products and Applications (1971)
VAX Architecture Reference Manual
Macintosh PowerBook 1400c
Macintosh PowerBook 180
Apple 800K External Drive
Apple PC 5.25 Drive
AppleCD 300
AppleCD 300e Plus
American Megatrends Voyager 486 Motherboard
Zenith Data Systems N8003 External CD-ROM Drive
Apple LisaDraw Manual
Apple Lisa Office System Release 3.0 Manual
Apple 486/66 DOS Compatibility Card
Asante MC3NB NuBus Ethernet Interface
Kingroyal 2-serial, 1-parallel, 1-game Interface
STB 2-serial 1-parallel interface
Sealevel Systems 3088 dual-port serial card
Cardinal Technologies VGA 300
IEV Corp. VIP-2000 Interactive Graphics Controller
Datacopy Corp. Datacopy Model III
Domex UDS-IS10 SCSI interface
Talking Tech Bigmouth
Your PC Multi-Lab PCL-711 Analog and Digital I/O Card
Danford SEU 3800 multi-port serial card
Triad Systems PC-IDC-8 8-port ISA Serial Interface
U.S. Digital PC7166 Incremental Encoder Interface
Western Digital WD1003V-MM2 HD/FD Controller (Prototype?)
Supra SupraExpress 33.6i Voice Modem
3Com EtherLink III 3C509B-TPO
Allied Telesis AT-2000T-PNP TP ISA network interface
Advanced Logic Research 16-bit VGA/Parallel
Iwill SIDE VLB SCSI/IDE/FDC/I-O Controller
Adaptec AHA-2940UW Ultra Wide SCSI Controller
Berkshire Products PCI PC Watchdog
BusLogic BT-958 SCSI-3 Adaptor
Network Appliance 110-01579 PCI NVRAM Board
Ocean Optics ADC2000-PCI+ A/D Converter
Philips TV Tuner PCI Board
S&S Research MOTU PCI-324 Audio PCI Interface
Smart Modular Technologies 90079 Modem/Sound Combo Board
ATI Rage IIc AGP Graphics Card
Asus V8170/128M AGP Graphics Card
Matrox G45+ AGP Graphics Card
IBM 2330364 Token Ring Network Adaptor 16/4
SCO Informix v3.11 for the Apple Lisa 2
SCO Lyrix v3.10 for the Apple Lisa 2
SCO MF/SCO Level II COBOL v2.0 High Performance
SCO Multiplan v2.10B for the Apple Lisa 2
SCO Xenix Development System v3.0 for the Apple Lisa 2
SCO Xenix Operating System v3.0 for the Apple Lisa 2
SCO Xenix Text Processing System v3.0 for the Apple Lisa 2
Hands-On BASIC for the IBM PCjr
HP 82901M Flexible Disc Drive
HP 9885M Flexible Disk Drive
HP 10247A Clock Probe
HP 10248B Eight Bit Probe
HP 10248C Eight Bit Probe (Pod 1)
HP 10248C Eight Bit Probe (Pod 2)
HP 10248C Eight Bit Probe (Pod 3)
HP 10248C Eight Bit Probe (Pod 4)
HP 10248C Eight Bit Probe (1610B)
Convergent Technologies NGEN XM-003 Memory Module
Wico Command Control Joystick
Links to the newly listed items can be found in the usual place:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I53wxarLHlNmlPVf_HJ5oMKuab4zrApI_hi…
As always, please contact me directly by e-mail <sellam.ismail at gmail.com>
to inquire about an item.
Thanks!
Sellam
Okay, I'm trying to beat back the hoard in my basement before the rainy season starts here in CA:
I have a couple of NMOS static RAM UNIBUS address spaces that I picked up from CMU sometime back in the mid-'80s once when they were cleaning house. I've been hauling these around for 30+ years, thinking I would use them with the '11/45 that I picked up at the same time, but as previously discussed here I have a much more practical MS11-L working in that system now. So, I'd be more than happy to pass these one to somebody else who could put them to good use?
There are two; they are 5U 19" rack chassis with integrated power supplies and fans. These are card cages with slots for 5 11"x15" cards plugging, into a PCB backplane (big, heavy!)
Each chassis contains four fully-populated MICRORAM 3400N memory cards (at 32K words x 18 bits each, each chassis is a full UNIBUS address space); each of the memory cards caries 144 x socketed 4402ACC, with 1977 date codes.
Each chassis also has a fifth card, a custom UNIBUS interface card that was developed at CMU, which takes the place of the self-test card in the original units.
The units are marked S/N 100001 and 100002, P/N 929331-009A. They are in good shape, but dusty, and with some corrosion evident on the chassis. Have not seen power in several decades, so the power supplies probably need a going over...
I also have full documentation (including schematics), and a folder of schematics and some hand-drawn notes for the CMU interface cards. I have dups of the EMM documentation, so could send it to Al if he is interested?
Anybody out there interested? I am in Oakland, CA. It would be best to pick these up in person, because they'd probably be $$$ to ship.
cheers,
--FritzM.
Greetings all, I?ve now taken over custodianship of the RetroChallenge and
would like to extend an invitation to any who are interested in joining in
this October.
Entry details at:
http://www.retrochallenge.org
Retro COMPUTE ;)
--
*Blog: RetroRetrospective ? Fun today with yesterday's gear??..
<http://www.jongleur.co.uk/blogs/>*
*Podcast*: *Retro Computing Roundtable <http://rcrpodcast.com/>* (Co-Host)
I finally managed to get TSS/8 running under SIMH V4... console on the
laptop, a time-sharing line (TTIX port 23) on an ADM-3A (much quieter while
debugging) :)
The interface is the Volpe current-loop to USB board, a small freeware
program "COM By TCP" to allow a TCP port (USB is COM4, TCP is 127.0.0.1 port
23).
So far so good. But I am having connection problems with the data coming
>from SIMH to the terminal.
At 110 baud I only get a few characters before the serial-TCP program hangs
with this write-timeout message:
22:24:11: Socket connected to 127.0.0.1:23
22:24:11: SOCK: Unable to write on COM. The port is CLOSED.. <-- this is
because I didn't "Get COM" first.
22:24:13: COM4 correctly opened!
22:24:24: System.TimeoutException: The write timed out.
at System.IO.Ports.SerialStream.Write(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32
count, Int32 timeout)
at System.IO.Ports.SerialPort.Write(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32
count)
at COMbyTCP.Form.sockClient_dataRecived(Byte[] buffer, Int32
bytesRecived)
I tried at 1200 baud and the same problem occurs, I can just get more
characters before the terminal screen freezes.
Nothing's locked up except the downstream SIMH data (i.e. I can hit Return
on the terminal and the TSS/8 dot prompt reappears).
It is repeatable regardless of what I am trying to do on the terminal. Only
very small outputs come through in their entirety without this error
message.
I don't think it's the current-loop board, which has an onboard micro fast
enough to translate Baudot on the fly. And the receive light stops
flickering at the same time the write timeout message pops up.
Does anyone know how I can extend the timeout parameter... is this a Windows
networking problem, or something flaky in the freeware serial-TCP program?
thanks
Charles
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I could use a hint... I have a USB to current-loop (Volpe) interface board,
and Windows 7 on my laptop does recognize it as COM4 at 110 baud.
So far so good. No problem hooking it up to my ASR-33 Teletype.
Now I'd really like to figure out how to set SIMH to use the 33 as the
console, so the TTY will be attached to the virtual PDP-8.
I do have OS/8 and TSS/8 running on SIMH with the laptop as console. Just
don't know how to make it "talk" to the USB serial port instead.
Anything that starts with "set console..." gives a "no settable parameters"
error.
Thanks for any hints.
-Charles
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I got ahead of myself a little bit... forgot I still couldn't connect a
serial port to SIMH.
Turns out my version of SIMH 3.08 was from 2008 or so... I just downloaded
the latest version 4 from GitHub and sure enough it does accept SET CONSOLE
SERIAL.
Now I just have to figure out the port name since it doesn't like COM4:
But I'm almost there :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 6:46 PM
To: J. David Bryan ; cctalk digest
Subject: Re: Connecting SIMH to teletype via USB
Update: got my SIMH (set console telnet:23) talking to PuTTY in another
window, via Telnet 127.0.0.1:23.
So it is possible ;)
Now it's time to hook up the actual TTY to the USB-current loop card and see
what's what!
-----Original Message-----
From: J. David Bryan
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 6:23 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Cc: Charles
Subject: Re: Connecting SIMH to teletype via USB
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 15:42, Charles via cctalk wrote:
> I could use a hint... I have a USB to current-loop (Volpe) interface
> board, and Windows 7 on my laptop does recognize it as COM4 at 110
> baud. So far so good. No problem hooking it up to my ASR-33 Teletype.
>
> Now I'd really like to figure out how to set SIMH to use the 33 as the
> console, so the TTY will be attached to the virtual PDP-8.
Section 3.14, "Console Options" of the "SIMH Users' Guide V4.0" suggests
that:
set console serial=com4;110-8n2
...should work (though you might need "7e2" or "7o2" instead, depending on
how your Teletype is set up).
> Anything that starts with "set console..." gives a "no settable
> parameters" error.
Does the above also give this error?
-- Dave
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Folks,
I've been made aware by Michael Ross (who for some reason can't join this
list) that there is a System/32 available for not much money in Helsinki.
If you're 100% interested the contact is stidialla at gmail.com
Cheers!
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
t: @binarydinosaurs f: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
I just picked up a board set from a Zenith Z-100 (not sure if it was a 110
or 120 model) which had been junked. I threw this out on the sebhc mailing
list too, but perhaps someone here knows:
a) If the machine's keyboard is completely passive (i.e. just a bunch of
switches), or if there's any intelligence to it,
b) If the system will start up with no boards plugged in (other than the
bitmap display PCB) - i.e. no S100 FDC or winchester,
c) If "yes" to the previous, whether the mainboard/bitmap board will
function on just +5V and +/-12V (i.e. without the S100 +8V and +/-16V rails)
Trying to power up what I have might be fun, but I'm really not sure about
the lack-of-keyboard issue - if it's just switches and decoded via the
mainboard then rigging something might be possible, but if there's some
kind of higher level serial protocol involved then maybe it's too much
hassle. I don't have a S100 bus machine kicking around to power things with
at present (but of course rigging something would not be too difficult).
I'm not sure what kind of details the documentation went into, either -
I've got a Z-89 and the docs there are extremely technical, with full
schematics, but I'm not seeing any equivalent online for the Z100 series
(there seems to be very little out there about them at all - came too late
in the S100 era, perhaps?)
cheers
Jules
Has anyone replaced the capacitor in a ferroresonant power supply with much
success? My current understanding is that the capacitor and transformer are
mated as a pair, so replacing just one of them would require careful
consideration.
The PDP-8/I I'm working on has a 704A in it, with a GE 8uF 660V capacitor.
It measures a couple of nF on my capacitor meter, and I was told by the
previous owner that it's dead.
Any advice?
Thanks,
Kyle
>Thanks! Someone else pointed me to Mouser as well. Was hoping to find
something in stock, but I guess I can wait and go with Mouser; after all,
the PDP-8/I has >been waiting well over 30 years for a new capacitor!
>
>Kyle
It looks like Farnell/element14 have a couple in stock ->
https://au.element14.com/search?st=8uf%20660v Element14 Order Number
2668607
Malcolm
Hello,
A few weeks ago I ordered a Sigma 400255 for my H11A LSI-11 computer with
the hopes of getting a 8" floppy hooked up for VCFMW. For the most part,
all the tests I ran from the ODT seemed to be AOK. The one this I couldn't
do it boot RT-11 from my TU58 emulator, as it would crash every time. Every
since I was able to boot RT-11 on my machine it has been unstable and prone
to crashes, but i chalked that up to the TU58 emulator, and not the machine
itself. Since I needed to boot from to TU58 in order to INIT and make a
bootable RT-11 disk for my system, I looked for other causes for the
crashes. I ran the VKAA XXDP test, which passed fine. I then ZKMA test,
which lo and behold listed back there were numerous bad addresses all over
memory. The only memory modules I have are 3 nearly identical 3rd party
32KW memory modules. The one that I have in the system right now came with
it, and is the one with memory errors. The other two are ones I bought on
eBay that are in rather poor condition and currently do not work at all. I
was hoping to transfer some of the 4116 chips from my nonfunctional units
over to my semi-functional unit, but I cannot find schematics for any of
the boards because they don't have any marking identifying marking on them.
If anyone knows where I can find schematics for these boards, that would be
wonderful. I am including a picture of one of these boards below.
https://i.ibb.co/sQwZw0j/32kwram.jpg
Thank You, Gavin Tersteeg
AST-coax, AST-432, AST-SNA, etc. IBM comms products circa late 80s
I'm in the process of pdf-ing the manuals this afternoon.
The only product disk I have is AST-3780
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Sunday March 22nd, 2020.
To make this happen we are looking for exhibitors, speakers and
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looking to have a good time again in March.
If you are thinking of traveling from outside of the region there is plenty
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Regards,
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> From: Mister PDP
> listed back there were numerous bad addresses all over memory.
> ...
> I cannot find schematics for any of the boards
You can repair MOS memory boards where the board is basically working, but
just has some failing memory chips, without schematics.
First you need to create a map which translates memory chip # to bits. You
have 32 chips in the array, so there are probably 2 32KB banks, each 16 bits
wide. Pull a chip, and then try and figure out which bit it is; then repeat
with other chips to try and figure out which bits are stored in which
chips. (Unless the designers were insane, each chip will hold the same bit in
all the words in that bank.)
On yours, the memory chips are in sockets, which makes this less painful.
(On boards where the chips are soldered in, a program which loops, storing a
word with a single 1 bit, can be used to the same effect; the chip data sheet
will tell you which pin is the data pin.)
Usually a missing chip results in bits stored in that chip reading as '0', but
it's possible they will read back as 1. Anyway, to test the first possibility,
start by finding a location in the each bank that can be written to all 0's
and all 1's (read back after writing to verify).
Next, pull a chip, and then try writing all 1's to that word in the low bank,
and read it back. If it now has a 0 bit, congratulations i) you've verified
that missing chips read as 0, ii) that chip is part of the low bank, and iii)
the 0 bit tells you which bit that chip is - fill in that entry in your
chip<->bit chart.
If not, try the high bank word, and see if it now has a 0 bit. If not, try
writing 0's to the high and low words, and check for a '1' bit; if so, i)
missing chips read as 1, etc. If neither is true, check back here!
Otherwise, try pulling another chip, and work out which bit that one is, and
add it to the chart. Repeat for all 32 chips - although if you're lucky,
after a couple you might find a pattern, and be able to predict which chips
hold which bits. (But not always; many are random; see e.g.:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/Q-RAM_11http://gunkies.org/wiki/NS23M
for some.) If so, do a few spot tests of your predictions to make sure your
pattern is correct.
With the completed chart in hand, given a failing word (address and bad
data), you can work out which chip is at fault, and replace it. Repeat
for all memory errors.
Noel
Hey Guys,
I recently picked up an MDS 6401 Key-To-Tape unit in NCR guise to park next to my keypunches. It's been in storage for a couple decades and is in pretty decent shape. Even has a tape on it from when the university that had it pulled the plug and sent it off for surplus. Found an internal date code of 1971.
The unit does actually show signs of life, but I suspect a power supply issue. Does anyone have a lead on a schematic?
This here is basically what I'm working with: http://www.thecorememory.com/NCR_C-735_-_MDS_6401_Memories.pdf
Thanks,
Cory
Can anyone here provide a pointer to info on testing vintage power
supplies? Search results on the web may eventually lead to the kind of
info that I am looking for, but I have to get through too many pages of
modern PC power supplies first.
Specifically, I will be testing the power supplies in my Sun 3/260,
which has 24V, 12V and 5V. I am wondering things like what is suitable
loads and do I need to put a load on all three or can I test them one at
a time and what I haven't thought of with regards to testing them.
alan
I've been contemplating a floppy diskette drive emulator with features to make it fit better into systems using 50-pin Shugart style floppy drive interfaces vs. the other emulators already on the market. Studying manuals for various 8" floppy diskette drives, I see that they generally provided a great deal of configurability. There are the myriad of jumper-selectable options which change drive behavior for compatibility with various computers. Then there are features like FM data separators which are present on some, but not all, drives. And then there are many documented "cut this trace, then bodge wire this signal to pin X of the edge connector" options for special purposes such as individual drive motor controls, simultaneous monitoring of all four drive ready signals, etc.
Since fully supporting all of the options I've seen documented would have real hardware cost and add complexity to the design, I'm wondering just how much of that configurability is really necessary. Which non-default options are really needed for system still in use and/or in the hands of collectors? Which were only ever provided for some obscure industrial system manufacturer, with no surviving systems in existence? Which were included just in case somebody might need them, but were never used in practice?
I'd appreciate it if anybody can provide insight into this, such as examples of systems which required non-omnipresent and/or non-default configuration options.
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:03:54 -0400
From: "Craig M." <cmook1968 at gmail.com>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: ROLM - Dat general 1602 - AN/UYK-19 computers.
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Good Morning,
Have you ever come across a document called the
"Rolm
I/O Designers Guide?" I am working with some developers trying to
figure
out the data words and how they work on a Navy AN/UYK-19 computer.
I have some sticktime on the Eclipse machines. In going to boot camp
getting my MV4000/DC I ran into some interesting characters. One was
with DG on military sales, was visiting Groton? or another base where a
test was being conducted. The computer was suspended on wires in a
hangar and, while running, was subjected to simultaneous blows from
heavy pendulums on either side. The noise was teriffic and my friend
asked the same question, why on earth, to which the cryptic reply was
two words: Depth Charges.
Probably your USAF machine, corn field kept though it was, was designed
for service in another kind of silo, the missile kind. Those would be
projected to survive near-direct hits from megaton thermonuclear
weapons. Not to mention that no air force property is immune from
attack by all sorts of ordinance, nuclear or otherwise.
Best,
Jeff
Another note, saw an old query on the "Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A,
1602B,
1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)" thread about breaking
down
the military system designations. This website may help if you never
got an
earlier answer:
https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2015/05/27/whats-in-a-name-…
Thank you!
Craig Mook
This is the next list of keyboards I can bring in.
Anybody want some of this?
2 IBM 6052141
IBM 1391401 missing some keycaps
Apple M3501 nice ,no pluggable connect cable
WYSE PCE,p/n 900840-01 Din-5 connector
Data Desk Int,new/unused Din-5
Datatech SBK-100
Cadmus 00185-00 (dark grey) no plug-in connect cable
2 Chicony KB-5311 very nice Din5
Commodore KPR-E9447 unused Din 5
Honeywell 101WN unused Din-5
Keytronic KB101 Plus Din-5
Mitsumi KPQ-EA9YC looks good Din-5
Mitsumi NPQ-E99ZC-13 Din-5
HP C14058
If so, please send price offer for what you want. Shipping will be extra.
Yes, I will ship internationally.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-370-3239 cell
sales at elecplus.com
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Hi all --
Been working on an MSCP implementation for Joerg Hoppe's Unibone project,
and it's working well on PDP-11 systems; less well as of late on the VAX.
I've been looking to tidy up a few dark corners in the MSCP spec and one
thing that's left is bus adapter purges -- I have a pretty good grasp of
Unibus mechanics these days but I'm not quite understanding the reasoning
behind this. Here's what the Storage System Unibus Port Description
(AA-L621A-TK) document says:
"To support such higher-level protocol functions as transfer restarts,
compares, etc., the host memory interface must allow repeated access to a
given host memory location for both reads and writes. On purely Unibus
systems such as 11/44, this requirement is trivially met with no
participation by the host CPU.
On systems with bus adapters such as the 11/780, the repeated access
requirement means that the relevant adapter channel may have to be purged,
requiring the active cooperation of the host CPU. The port signals its
desire for an adapter channel purge by interrupting the host. The host
writes zeroes to the SA register to indicate purge completion."
This is also discussed, from the bus adapter point of view, in the
technical documentation for the bus adapter itself. (See
http://www.vaxhaven.com/images/2/29/EK-DW780-TD-001.pdf) It hasn't been
particularly enlightening to me, but I will admit to not having read every
page of this and the DW780 doc -- maybe I missed something :).
I understand the mechanism here; in essence it's:
1) MSCP controller decides a purge is necessary after a DMA transfer and
requests one by setting a value in a reserved slot in the communications
area
2) Host system (MSCP driver) sees the special value, and issues a purge
command to the bus adapter.
3) Host system then clears the value in the communications area
4) MSCP controller continues on its merry way.
What I do not understand is (a) why such purges are necessary, and (b) how
the MSCP controller knows when one should occur. The Port Description doc
hints that it has to do with repeated access to a given area of memory.
The DW780 documentation hints that it needs to happen after *any* block
transfer. (See pg. 2-58 of the document linked above.)
Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks!
Josh
Good Morning,
Have you ever come across a document called the "Rolm
I/O Designers Guide?" I am working with some developers trying to figure
out the data words and how they work on a Navy AN/UYK-19 computer.
Another note, saw an old query on the "Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B,
1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)" thread about breaking down
the military system designations. This website may help if you never got an
earlier answer:
https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2015/05/27/whats-in-a-name-…
Thank you!
Craig Mook
5287534 "Correcting Crossover Distortion Produced When Analog Signal Thresholds Are Used To Remove Noise From Signal"
It describes the DEC CXM04 board for the DS550 communications server, which inserts itself between an IBM establishment
controller and a control unit (coax) terminal so the CUT can pretend it's a serial terminal to VAXen without dropping
the polled connection to the IBM mainframe.
weird..
Hi,
For historical reasons (I'm starting to plan my VCF East 2020 exhibit) I'd
like to get real ATV Research PXV-2A Pixie-Verter. I know that there were a
lot of other RF modulators out there (I have a SUP "R" MOD II (that I might
trade)) but I want this one in particular. Various S-100 boards and other
vintage computer hardware available for trade or cash if necessary.
Thanks,
Bill Sudbrink
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Dear All (mainly UK and Ireland),
We have a "lo-boy" DEC cabinet containing 2x pdp11/34a in half height
boxes, and 2x RL02 drives.
It is available for free to be collected in north Dublin, 5 miles from
Dublin port.
It is also about to be scrapped, so urgent action is required.
Please contact ronan.scaife at dcu.ie.
Best Wishes,
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My Sun 3/260 came with a pair of 8-inch SMD disks in a separate cabinet.
1. Anyone have a pointer to docs that describe cabling and configuring
SMD disks? My Google-fu has failed here.
2. The system came with no cables (external cables between cabinets).
Are these standard cables or will they be Sun-specific?
3. The system "ran when parked" about a dozen years ago, but it was left
in an open barn after that. How likely is it that the disks will work
and be readable? One is a Fujitsu M2333; don't recall what they other
one is.
alan