- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jonas＠otter.se

On 2011-08-26 19:00, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: >>> > > I think the contents would be disappointing, and prob'ly not worth >>> > > breaking them open. They are glued. I could prob'ly cut the glue joint >>> > > and pry one open, but it would be much more fun to use a LARGE mallet ot >>> > > open it. > On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Tony Duell wrote: >> > I preFer to open things up in the least destructive way possible. Often > That depends on the thing, and whether re-assembly is to be considered. > Unlike ARD, some of us sometimes feel that the greatest value that some > things have may be as a recipient of mindless brutal violence. (even > though neither SC817 bears any resemblance to a college administrator) > >> > the reason for opening some is at least to investigate the internals, if >> > not repair them, so the less damage done the batter. Hitting it with a >> > mallet/hammer could break an intenral PCB (if there is one) making >> > tracing tracks a lot harder... > Well, the largest mallet that I have handy is only 4 pounds, so I'm going > to mail it to Poughkeepsie, instead. THAT might subject it to enough > impact(s) to open it. If not, then somebody else can maturely and > carefully unseal it. Hit it with a college administrator? ;-) /Jonas

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Needed in Seattle: Unibus analyzer (Guy Sotormayor's UA-11)

by RichA＠vulcan.com

We are waiting for a UA-11 from Guy, but in the mean time a high-priority project is being held up for lack of a way to check out the Unibus on a PDP-11/40. Does anyone in the Seattle-Tacoma region have one of these that we might borrow until we get our own? Please feel free to reply off-line if you like. Thanks, Rich Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Server Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

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Low Profile "Header" help needed

by brain＠jbrain.com

I'm struggling with designing adapters for situations where things sit right above a PCB (like the CBM 1541-II PCB under the disk mechanism) where there is not enough room for a: Header PCB Socket IC And sometimes not enough for even: Header PCB IC A while back, I found a pic of a "low profile" header option. Pic: http://postimage.org/image/2o6zinnk4/ Notice how the header pins are attached to a plastic "film"? Does anyone know what that is called, or better yet, have a source for this type of header? Jim -- Jim Brain brain at jbrain.com www.jbrain.com

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IBM 5110 and Zilog 8000 docs spotted

by innfoclassics＠gmail.com

Spotted on epay...thought there might be interest here...no connection with the seller 310335159258 Lot of Zilog Z8000 CPU Manuals, Specs, Dev Mod, Assembl 310335159274 Lot of 5 Original IBM 5110 Portable Computer Manuals -- Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR USA

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What terminal model appears in "Buckaroo Banzai"?

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

Hi, All, Due to an off-hand watermelon comment made around the house last night, I rewatched "Buckaroo Banzai". I already know the computer in the President's hospital room is a DEC Rainbow 100 (with a faux-TV-image overlay) and the computer at the Banzai compound is an CompuPro 8/16 ( http://starringthecomputer.com/feature.php?f=78 ), but what's that orange-tinted terminal attached to the S-100 box? -ethan

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Modcomp minicomputer rescue

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

There is a large lot of vintage ex-JPL Modcomp gear available in the LA area, but it would require an extremely prompt pickup, with difficult logistics. These are classic TTL blinkenlights minis, with really sexy-looking front panels. It looks like there is enough material to satisfy several collectors. I'd be interested in hearing from interested folks in SoCal ASAP. --Bill

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DEC Collection on Craigs List in South Jersey

by shumaker＠att.net

Just noticed a rather large collection of DEC equipment including a MicroVaxII and a CDC fixed disk on CL offered at $499 item no 2550822438. in the South Jersey (Cherry Hill) CL Steve

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What's 6 Feet Tall and Weighs 1,500 Pounds? A Minicomputer

by oldcpu3＠rogerwilco.org

From today's (August 24) Wall Street Journal front page: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903596904576516552161014410.h… Written as a bit of a puff piece, but interesting nonetheless, given the national reach of the WSJ. It might (though I doubt it) spur a few Wall Street types to take a keener interest in retro gear, making things dearer and harder for us homie hobbyists to acquire. :) Kudo's to Ian (King) and Rich (Alderson), et al. -- Jared

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Looking for Sun Ultra5 RAM

by jplist2008＠kiwigeek.com

Don't suppose anyone has any U5 RAM they'd be willing to sell me? Getting a "Memory Address not Aligned" on my Ultra5. Hoping it's just the RAM and not something else. Replies offlist, please. Thanks chaps (and chapettes); - JP Iowa

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Sun Solaris md5sums?

by vintagecoder＠aol.com

If anybody has md5sum.txt files from Sun Solaris versions or can compute them from Solaris ISOs downloaded directly from Sun, would you please post them on this list? md5sums on Solaris Studio would be appreciated also. I lost a bunch of files and I want to make sure any replacement copies I can scrounge are legit. I have not been able to find anything using archive.org on Sun's old site. Thanks guys.

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collecting sales guides and Brochures

by markarmbrennan＠gmail.com

Hello It has been some years since I was last on the list but here goes, I am involved with an on-line computer history preservation site its URL is www.1000bit.com we have a good collection of computer brochures but we are looking for more. I was therefore wondering would any of the list members have old brochure, sales guides etc that they would be will to part with or sell, I am quite happy to pay a fee and shipping I am look for most things from 1984 - to 1999 on various companies here are just a few Apollo/AT&T/DEC/CRAY/DG/IBM/NCR/NEC/Netframe/Tricord/Pyramid and Wang etc regards and many thanks Mark email markarmbrennan AT gmail DOT com

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HP 9845A service/user manuals?

by derschjo＠mail.msu.edu

Hi all -- Anyone have a service manual for the HP 9485A (not the B or C)? I picked up three of these machines in fairly good physical condition just a couple of days ago, but their operating condition leaves something to be desired :). I've looked in the usual places (hpmuseum.net, and hp9845.net) but I can only find the manual for the B/C revisions. My understanding is that the "A" version is different in some ways (not really sure what the hardware differences are yet.) The good news is that one of the three 9845s just required some careful reseating of the cards and ROMs and it now appears to be working correctly (I haven't yet tested the printer (no paper yet) and I'm assuming the tape drives will require a bunch of work, assuming I ever find any tapes to use). I'd love to get the other two running as well, hence the need for the service manual. All three appear to be complete (with I/O, Mass Storage, and Graphics option ROMs), now if I could just get my hands on an HPIB interface... Thanks, Josh

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RS-232 smart cables (was: Re: Getting a Sun Ultra 5 To Work)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 1:14 -0500 8/23/11, Fred wrote: >Would you like a few "RS232 Smart Cable"s? > >They obviously do not work anywhere near as well as a conscious human >being with an LED tester and a breakout box. This depends on the human being, or possibly the definition of "conscious". I was too ignorant to get my Rainbow talking to my NeXT without mine, a few years back. I still have all 3, and next time I connect them, I'll likely still be too ignorant (unconscious?) to do without the Smart Cable... -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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Cabling RQDX3 to M9058

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I am a bit confused about this. I have an MicroVAX II in a BA123 enclosure with an RQDX3 which has a problem with not seeing the disks (which I know to work), when I try to boot from a disk I get DEVINACT. I am beginning to suspect a fault in either the RQDX3 or the M9058. I decided to make sure that the cable between them was the right way round as the cable I have does not have keyed connectors. Here is where I get confused. On the M9058 printset (http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/qbus/MP02259_RQDX3_schem_Oct85.pdf) it shows the M9058 as having pin 1 on the left of the card (when looking at the component side with J12 at the top). The printset does not show where pin 1 is on J1 of the RQDX3, but I had it connected to the uppermost side of the connector when the board was installed in its slot. In this configuration the front panel lights show green when I apply power. However this gets the error I mention above. I checked my MicroVAX II in a BA23, this machine accesses the disk just fine, but the cable is connected with pin 1 at the other side, ie opposite to the BA123. I tried inverting the cable at the RQDX3 in the BA123, but it still gets DEVINACT and this time the front panel lights don't work. I am pretty sure therefore that the cable was in the right way round in the first place, and that looking at the BA23 is a red herring, possibly with the cable being inverted at both ends and therefore "correct". Can anyone confirm that I have the cable oriented correctly in the BA123? In other words pin 1 at the bottom of the connector on the RQDX3 itself when installed in its slot, and on the M9058 pin 1 on the left of the card when viewed component side with J12 at the top (ie at the top again when the M9058 is mounted in its slot)? Thanks Rob

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Fwd: [comp.sys.dec] PDP-11/23 and peripherals available

by legalize＠xmission.com

This message has been forwarded from Usenet. To reply to the original author, use the email address from the forwarded message. Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Groups: comp.sys.dec From: olinhamrick at windstream.net Org: http://groups.google.com Subject: PDP-11/23 and peripherals available Id: <644fd724-48ed-4631-be38-9aca8a334d7b at b20g2000vbz.googlegroups.c om> ======== I have in storage a PDP-11/23 with two RLO-2 drives (I think), two or three VT100 (or 101?) terminals, a line printer and a spare RLO-2 drive. I would like to get rid of the whole lot, located in Mt. Pleasant, SC. The mini-mainframe was last powered up in about 1995. Does this stuff have any value? Is there a market for it or for any of the parts? Do you have any serious suggestions re how I might get rid of it. I have already had several suggestions such as 1) take it all out to sea and dump it to form a mini-artificial reef; 2) construct a catapult and send it deep into the Hell Hole Swamp; 3) buy it a one- way bus ticket to somewhere far away; 4) offer it to any of the local college IT/computer science depts. to be used as yard art. The whole mess weighs about 700 lbs. I would love to see it get recycled or put into a good home if there is one. Any serious suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks, Rick Hamrick

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Intel MDS available in SC

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 12:00 -0500 8/20/11, Rich wrote: > I got an email from someone in Landrum, SC (close to Greenville and >Greer) Grab it before it washes away. Rich, you might return cautions and good luck wishes to the original source for us. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents Hurricane Irene is currently headed for thereabouts. -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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3B2 archive

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Al, managed to resuscitate the drives off my old server and found my copy of Bob Martel's 3b2 software archive, finally. (It had gotten lost in a hosting move) I don't seem to be able subscribe to cctalk, though; maybe you could post a note? The archive is at ftp://www.dragonsweb.org/mirrors/little.nhlink.net/pub/att/, with a b2zip'd version available as well at ftp://www.dragonsweb.org/mirrors/little.nhlink.net.tar.bz2 Thanks, jbdigriz

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looking for dec paper tape trays

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

anyone got any collecting dust would be nice to have something to store my pdp8 tapes in properly cause this storing them in the tub is not the best

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8/L has been sold. Have ADM-3A for sale.

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

The 8/L, ASR33, DF32 disk emulator project has been sold. Thanks for all your interest (and offers). Anyone who wants the DF32 emulator schematic and artwork, I can email you a copy. I hope someone can take my "first draft" and make a useful unit for those who are interested. I have a working ADM-3A that I may want to sell also. It has a homebrewed lower-case 2716 ROM (thanks Steve Loboyko for the font files). I installed the "optional" parts for current loop on the main PCB, and used it with the 8/L. The only thing that's missing is the little aluminum panel covering the dip switches. Any interest? Same deal as before, please email offers, "sealed bids". thanks Charles

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bounty for tool organizer

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

http://www.ezwind.net/jwest/photo.JPG I have one of these bin/toolOrganizers (made by rubbermaid) on my home techbench. Love it. I'm looking for another one for my work techbench, but apparently they are no longer made and my google & ebay searches have come up dry. Anyone have one, or know where I can get another one of these? What's a fair bounty for finding one - $20? Jay

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RD53 Stiction

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I sent the email below out a little while back, just wondering if anyone has any advice? Thanks Rob _____________________________________________ From: Rob Jarratt [mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com] Sent: 23 July 2011 21:25 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts (cctalk at classiccmp.org) Subject: RD53 Stiction I have an RD53 which is suffering from the sticky bumper problem. Normally I can resolve this with a sliver of paper placed over the sticky bumper. But in this instance it seems the bumper has practically liquefied and I think it has gummed up some of the mechanism. Is it feasible to dismantle the assembly to clean it up? Has anyone ever done this? Any advice? Thanks Rob

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eBay... Yikes! (PDP-1 Handbook)

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

wow still pritty cool On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-**DEC-DIGITAL-EQUIPMENT-PDP-1-** > HANDBOOK-MANUAL-/220832138801<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-DEC-DIGITAL-EQUIPMENT-PDP-1-HANDBOOK-MANUAL-/2…> > > Zane > > > > -- > | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | > | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | > | | Photographer | > +-----------------------------**-----+------------------------**----+ > | My flickr Photostream | > | http://www.flickr.com/photos/**33848088 at N03/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/> | >

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Scam?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, This looks so fictitious, I just have to ask: Anyone know "Zephyr"? Anyone else get a similar offer? If no and no, be careful. I have a Mac Plus and don't need a NIB newton. Been scammed once, so I'm highly tempted to drive up to Austin and try to arrange a face-to-face meeting. Not tempted enough, though. At 8:15 PM -0700 8/18/11, Zephyr Carroll wrote: >Hi, >My name is Zephyr and I got your e-mail off of the Antique Computer >collector website. You had stated that you were interested in >Vintage Apples. Well I have a Macintosh Plus, fully operational with >keyboard and mouse, power cable and lots of Software. I also have a >Newton in the box with stylus and docking/charging station. In >addition I have two small floppy boxes loaded with software, and a >sealed yes sealed in the box version of Microsoft Basic interpreter >for mac. As well as A sealed version of the Newton pc connect >software. I was interested in if you would be interested in adding >these pieces to your collection. I would love to make a deal with >you for everything, because I don't want these pieces of history to >end up as an aquarium or landfill, since they are in working order. >Please feel free to e-mail me, I am in the Austin, TX Area. Or call >me if you like at 512-415-3218. Thank you for your time and hope to >hear from you soon. >Zephyr Carroll >512-415-3218 >zmcbreeze at yahoo.com -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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Microvax II + Decwriter IV + VT220 + CDC SMD Hard Disk

by spedraja＠ono.com

Pretty system, sincerely. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vtg-DEC-MicroVaxII-DECWriter-IV-LA34-DEC-VT220-mo… Regards Sergio

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cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5

by jeffj＠panix.com

> [PCs as terminals] >> The big advantage over a conventional terminal >> was the capability of >> capturing output to a file or sending a file Part of me still craves dedicated terminals since they're just so reliable, and you can just swap in another when it breaks. No (or few) stored settings. Even "smart terminals" such as the BLIT and "thin clients" are a pleasure to use when in a properly supported environment. But I'll admit that PROCOMM is still a wonderful program, emulating all sorts of terminals with screen capture, session capture and file transfer. Not long ago, I used a DOS laptop with PROCOMM for an embedded processor lab so I was up and running instantly and consistently. > Incidentally, the first PC I owned was a genuine 5160 PC/XT > (It still runs, it's in front of me now). Nice! There's been a resurgence in appreciation of the "classics". MARCH: the NJ Vintage Computer Museum has a 5100 and 5150 on display! > Reminds me of the tremrinal emiulator ROM for th HP9830, Sweet! Google found this for pix and desc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_9800_series_desktop_computers My high school started everyone with programming BASIC on the HP 9820A: http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp9820.htm http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/hp9820a.html Somewhere I have 2 of the 'extra capacity' cards (HP Part #9162-0045): 10 1/2" inches long, storing 90 memory registers per side. I traded it away long ago, but I had a HP terminal that was extremely "smart" - the lid opened up to add cards for RAM or peripherals - I think it allowed 1-2 tape drives to store/xmt files - the CRT was a 2:1 aspect ratio: twice as wide as high. - external keyboard that was too thick and heavy to ever put on your lap! -- jeffj

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8/L has been sold. Have ADM-3A for sale.

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:27:00 -0400 > From: Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: 8/L has been sold. Have ADM-3A for sale. > Message-ID: <4E4E5694.6060404 at telegraphics.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 18/08/11 4:56 PM, William Donnelly wrote: >> Do you still have the ADM-3A? >> >> > > Me too! I'm looking for a glass tty something like this, pref somewhere > near Toronto, Canada (DEC, Televideo, Visual, L-S, etc). > > --Toby ------------------ How about an ADM-11? Clean, no burn, with manual - $50.00 Downtown TO. mike

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Tektronix Transformer

by technobug＠comcast.net

I just came across a Tektronix labeled transformer that I removed from some scrap analytical equipment some time ago. Part No.: 120-1097-00 manufacture date 7919. The price is right - from 85704. ->CRC

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Wanted: Xpanse PN400 PCI to NuBus chassis ROM v3.5

by d235j.1＠gmail.com

Hi all, I just came into the possession of an Xpanse PCI-to-NuBus chassis, much like the one here: http://web.archive.org/web/20061018024944/http://www.2ndwave.com/details.as… However, it has the 3.4 ROM, which is incompatible with the Beige G3, which is the primary . Does anyone out there have a v3.5 ROM, and is willing to provide a dump? The ROM is located on the PCI card, in a socket. If anyone knows how to reach the company, this would be helpful, but they seem to be out of business. Thanks! --Dave

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IBM3480 A22 w/3 B22 units

by ittybittybytes＠gmail.com

Local but too BIG for me! IBM3480 A22 w/3 B22 units http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=602003 current bid @ $1.00

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mystery panel

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

>> Can anyone identify the diagnostic panel? >> http://ferretronix.com/march/dm160_dage/ >> It's 18: DM160 indicator tubes with hand-written legends, >> possibly from an AT&T 1ESS or early switch. > The DM160 is a European (Philips/Mullard) number and it's quite common in > European paper tape equipment, instrument control systems, etc over here. > Was it commonly used _with that number_ in the States? It had a industrial number of 6977 as well, but most commonly I've seen it called the DM160 even here in the states. The Soviet equivalent is the IV-15. All seem to be readily available today from a number of sources (e.g. tube houses, E-bay, etc.) Tim.

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cables, free for postage (York, UK)

by pete＠dunnington.plus.com

It's tidy-the-workshop time (or as her indoors put it, can't you get rid of some of that junk). So I have quite a big box of surplus cables to get rid of. Some are only fit for an advert on freecycle (assorted long lengths of 3-core manis cable, umpteen RJ45 Ethernet cables), but I thought the more classiccmp-ish ones might be of more interest here. Any or all for the cost of the postage: DB25M - DB25F 8-wire screened 2m DB25M - DB25M 25-wire 10m 50HD - 50-"Centronics style" SCSI 1m DB25M - 50-"Centronics style" genuine HP SCSI 1m DB25M - 50-"Centronics style" SCSI 0.5m DB 13W3 - DB 13W3 Sun screened monitor cable, beige 1.2m DB 13W3 - DB 13W3 SGI screened monitor cable, granite 1.2m (for Indy/Indigo^2) DB 13W3 - DB 13W3 SGI screened monitor cable, beige 3m (for Indigo) DE9M - DE9F Sun screened monitor cable, 1m (for BW framebuffer) DE9M - DE9F Taxan screened monitor cable, 1m (brand new in bag) HD15M-HD15M Sun VGA cable beige 1.8m HD15M-HD15F VGA cable beige 2m HD15M-HD15F VGA cable high quality black 2m (brand new in bag) HD15M-HD15M PC VGA cable good quality beige 1.8m HD15M-HD15M VGA cable PC quality black 2m (brand new) HD15M-HD15M VGA cable PC quality black 2m (brand new in bag) DVI-D - DVI-D cable black 1.8m (brand new in bag) 2 x DE9F - DE9F HP serial cable (null-modem) black 2m DE9F - RJ45 HP serial cable (for Procurve/Cisco switch console) black 2m plus a few SGI and other PS/2 mice. But I'd like to know quickly if anyone wants any, so I can advertise leftovers with the rest of the box on Freecycle. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Northern Telecom DisplayPhone?

by wgungfu＠gmail.com

Hoping someone from the list can help, I'm trying to track down a Northern Telecom DisplayPhone for the archive. http://dxiconsulting.com/images/northern%20telecom%20displayphone%20circa%2… Actually had one years ago as a kid, and what I used for BBS'ing in the early 80's. So it holds sentimental value besides archival. -- Marty

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Walnut Creek 1994 CP/M CDROM disk differences

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I just posted this on comp.os.cpm There is no indication other than the mastering number on the disk that they are different. Now I'm wondering how many other Walnut Creek CDROMs have deleted content. --- > Hallo, > > For the sake of redundancy, conservation and fun: > an ISO of the Walnut Creek CDROM. > Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of this disk! The one you have has versions of teledisk removed, and has directories dated Jan 31, 1995 The original have directories dated Oct 25, 1994. here are the only two files that differ in 00-INDEX.TXT > TELED210.ZIP 89957 01-09-94 Disk utility that can read complete CP/M > | disks and copy them to a file to be recreated > | or transmitted. > TELED214.ZIP 139264 01-07-94 Upgrade to Teled210 disk program- See > | Teled210 for complete Manual and > | documentation. md5 of original is 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c md5 of 1995 version is faa8c5ba9d1184b7bfc34d999a8c42c4

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mystery panel

by jeffj＠panix.com

Can anyone identify the diagnostic panel? http://ferretronix.com/march/dm160_dage/ It's 18: DM160 indicator tubes with hand-written legends, possibly from an AT&T 1ESS or early switch. I also need help with my Dage Scientific MC-3 1802 processor development system. It is similar to the RCA COSMAC ELF. But it is MISSING the keyboard/display panel! Just the manual and/or schematic would help me. Thanks in advance -- Jeff Jonas

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Tony Duell's maxed out 5160 and PDP

by jeffj＠panix.com

replying to ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) >> Nice! There's been a resurgence in appreciation of the "classics". > The 5160 I just mentioned with 4 floppy drive How did you accomplish that? - a controller that honors all 4 drive selects, not just 2 - primary & secondary disk controller - Compaticard or other disk controller at "non-standard" address & IRQ? My pre-PC systems (mostly Z80 CP/M) all support 4 floppies per the original specs. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the PC's "cable twist" ruined that, limiting things to 2 floppies and 2 hard drives per controller. Not 'till SATA have we been able to un-do that mistake :-( > 2 hard drives Awww, come on, you can do better than that :-) I have a 80386 DOS system running MFM, ATAPI/IDE and SCSI. The "4drives" shareware was the first DOS support I found for the hard drive controller at alternate addresses & IRQ. > MDA and CGA cards, Dual display? What programs support that? > 4 serial ports, 24 line user I/O (8255-based), etc. > Not all original IBM of course Ah yes, that reminds me of the excitement of reading Computer Shopper and all the computer shows, always with new upgrades: higher res graphics, more memory, etc. Every month or so, ALL the vendors had a different brand of add-on card. For a while it was a box with a king playing card on the cover. Then Pine Technologies. Then something else. For those of us USING the stuff at the time, we were always upgrading it piece by piece. That's why it's so hard to find one with all original parts. > A PDP8/e with 32K words of real core Do the boards have clear plastic for you to see the cores? That's such a treat: true non-volatile memory! >> My high school started everyone with programming BASIC >> on the HP 9820A: > I find that hard to believe for one good reason. > The HP9820 never ran BASIC... You got me there. It was kinda almost similar to BASIC. It's so close that I totally forgot when I converted to BASIC. Since BASIC has so many "dialects", I guess that fuzzed my memory a little. Thanks for the clarification. > The HP9820 was HP's first infix-notation > (as opposed to RPN/postfix) calculator > and used a language that developed into the 'HPL' of the 9825 etc. It was such a pleasure using an instant response interactive machine! No waiting for carriage-return for the interpreter to handle the line or waiting for the compiler for an all-or-nothing result. > You may have guessed I have something of a soft spot for these machines. As an undergrad, I never had the budget for a HP calculator nor access to a HP desktop like my high school's. Somehow a TI-55 sufficed for me as an EE undergrad. Looking back, I just can't see how. It's *SO LAME*. I got a HP-28C when it was new and it's still my primary calculator. I really need that 4 line display to use RPN so I can see the stack. -- jeffj

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Operating System Design: The Xinu Approach, Linksys Version

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

For those interested, a new book : Operating System Design: The Xinu Approach, Linksys Version Douglas Comer http://www.amazon.com/Operating-System-Design-Approach-Linksys/dp/143988109… ISBN-10: 143988109X ISBN-13: 978-1439881095 TOC : http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9781439881118/ -- Stephane Join Kiva http://kiva.org/invitedby/stephanefr join the team http://www.kiva.org/team/kathleen

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LA50 Manuals

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

The two LA50 manuals listed on MANX don't seem to be accessible, and a web search for them does not seem to turn up anything, does anyone have EK-OLA50-IP-003 or EK-OLA50-TM-001? By the way, anyone know of any UK sources of tractor feed paper that would suit an LA50? Thanks Rob

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Wow! Great OSI collection for someone in MI...

by silent700＠gmail.com

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> wrote: > I wish I was in or going to Michigan... > > Ebay lot # 310337111857 The same seller also has a very complete, incredibly cool Varityper typesetting system for $notmuch. I would love to rescue it but it's well beyond my means (storage & transport) at this time. I am hoping someone else will make arrangements to save it. This guy looks like he's a scrapper! -- jht

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That darned HP card reader...

by jdr_use＠bluewin.ch

I give up. The 11'th attempt at repairing that gummy drive wheel resulted in yet another unround wheel that is unable to smoothly transfer cards. I just cannot seem to find the exact size of tubing, anything constructed with heatshrink just is not round. The clutch operation seems to be OK. Anyone wants to sell me a few inches of KNOWN WORKING ( i.e. correct size ) tubing ? Jos

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museum name contest

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 19:10 -0500 8/9/11, Richard wrote: >My friend who works with non-profits tells me that "Computer Graphics >Museum" is too boring for fundraising. He wants me to come up with an >alternative name that we can use. "Pixels, Bits, and Cobwebs" -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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S-100 Serial IO and S-100 EPROM PCBs available

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

Hi, If any one needs S-100 Serial IO and S-100 EPROM/RAM PCBs to restore their S-100 system or even build their own from scratch please contact me. There is more information here: http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/Serial%20IO%20Board/Serial%20I… http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/PROM%20Board/PROM%20Board.htm There are plenty of each PCB left although the S-100 EPROM/RAM boards are starting to get low. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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AW: cctalk Digest, Vol 96, Issue 18 More regional collectors

by gerhard.kreuzer＠liftoff.at

Hi, Here in Europe, we have still collectors, so maybe this is also for interst. My name is Gerhard and I collect DEC PDP8 and PDP11, www.compuseum.at Thanks for note our work here. With best regards Gerhard OE3GKC -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Im Auftrag von cctalk-request at classiccmp.org Gesendet: Samstag, 13. August 2011 19:00 An: cctalk at classiccmp.org Betreff: cctalk Digest, Vol 96, Issue 18 Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk at classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request at classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (Charles E. Fox) 2. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (Jason McBrien) 3. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (Pontus) 4. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (SPC) 5. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 (Liam Proven) 6. Non-revenue-producing (Was: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 (Fred Cisin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:36:42 -0400 From: "Charles E. Fox" <cfox1 at cogeco.ca> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <338904$8c689t at fipsb03.cogeco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:03 PM 12/08/2011, you wrote: >Hi, >I run the website http://oldcomputers.net >I get a lot of old computer systems offered to me for cheap or free, >but most I don't want - too big, or too far away to pay shipping. > >A while back I asked for other collectors who would be receptive to >these orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so far! > >But entire parts of the US are still open - the East coast is >covered pretty well, but west of the Mississippi River these is >almost no one until the coast. I've got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in >SLC, but that's about it. > >Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and I'll try to get >you some good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). > >Thanks- >Steven Stengel >http://oldcomputers.net Please put me down for Windsor Ontario Canada. Charlie Fox Charles E. Fox 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor Ont. 519-254-4991 N8Y3j8 www.chasfoxvideo.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:14:58 -0400 From: Jason McBrien <jbmcb1 at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <CAHG8iGVmMREt-E_m_WiG7YOjisz87Bao4a3bkqjfGfPXYgcGXw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jason McBrien Warren, Michigan jbmcb1 at gmail.com On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Charles E. Fox <cfox1 at cogeco.ca> wrote: > At 09:03 PM 12/08/2011, you wrote: > >> Hi, >> I run the website http://oldcomputers.net >> I get a lot of old computer systems offered to me for cheap or free, but >> most I don't want - too big, or too far away to pay shipping. >> >> A while back I asked for other collectors who would be receptive to these >> orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so far! >> >> But entire parts of the US are still open - the East coast is covered >> pretty well, but west of the Mississippi River these is almost no one until >> the coast. I've got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in SLC, but that's about it. >> >> Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and I'll try to get you >> some good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). >> >> Thanks- >> Steven Stengel >> http://oldcomputers.net >> > > Please put me down for Windsor Ontario Canada. > > Charlie Fox > > > Charles E. Fox > 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor Ont. > 519-254-4991 N8Y3j8 > www.chasfoxvideo.com > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:32:47 +0200 From: Pontus <pontus at update.uu.se> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <4E466EEF.7010506 at update.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 2011-08-13 10:03, steven stengel skrev: > I will add you. > Everyone who replies to me will be added, whether or not I respond. > A reply is always nice :) I think I already signed up, but I'm in for sweden :) Regards, Pontus. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:15:14 +0200 From: SPC <spedraja at ono.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <CACytpF-bpavfQd7LW17bMyiKqwY2a36ni_pXS+80H7Xi4ujEVg at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I live in Spain. And I've received diverse items from the US during the last ten years (at least). Mostly without problems. Regards Sergio 2011/8/13 steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com> > I have 14 people in Europe. > You are on the list as NW UK. > > > --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > From: Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> > > Subject: RE: WANTED: More regional collectors > > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" < > cctalk at classiccmp.org>, cctech at classiccmp.org > > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 12:47 AM > > Do you ever get asked about machines > > in Europe? Would it be worth extending > > the scope to cover Europe? If so I am in the UK. > > > > Regards > > > > Rob > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org > > [mailto:cctalk- > > > bounces at classiccmp.org] > > On Behalf Of steven stengel > > > Sent: 13 August 2011 02:04 > > > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > > > Subject: WANTED: More regional collectors > > > > > > Hi, > > > I run the website http://oldcomputers.net I get a lot of > > old computer > > systems > > > offered to me for cheap or free, but most I don't want > > - too big, or too > > far > > > away to pay shipping. > > > > > > A while back I asked for other collectors who would be > > receptive to these > > > orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so > > far! > > > > > > But entire parts of the US are still open - the East > > coast is covered > > pretty well, > > > but west of the Mississippi River these is almost no > > one until the coast. > > I've > > > got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in SLC, but that's about > > it. > > > > > > Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and > > I'll try to get you > > some > > > good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). > > > > > > Thanks- > > > Steven Stengel > > > http://oldcomputers.net > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:27:02 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 Message-ID: <CAMTenCF9dJ9swKQsBhv_EkyXata1WHTwUN5tZ7wm2ZLZFYMYGQ at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 12 August 2011 18:39, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> On 7 August 2011 20:49, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > >> > It doesn't. Since nobody will pay me for my time, my time is by definti= >> on >> > worthless. >> >> I am in the same boat, but recently, I have managed to get several >> bits of paying work. > > Unfortunately, I've been informed by the powers-that-be that while it is > perfectly legal for me to use my workshop for my hobby, if I make money > using it, it's a business and I have to meet all sorts of safety > regualtions, such as fitting guards to machine tools, fume estraction > equipment to the soldring iron, etc. Needless to say this would cost me a > lot more that I could evr make from doing such jobs, so while I'll hapily > help you fix your machines, I cannot accept payment for it. > > >> >> So, in the garage & attic, I have: >> >> * 1 dead Apple iMac G5 20" with a well-known motherboard capacitor proble= >> m > > Do you know which capactiros are involved? Do you have replacements (or > at least know what they should be)? > >> * 1 dead Apple Mac SE/30, cause unknown, but I've bought a service manual > > I doubt that's what I'd call a 'service manual' but I can take a look at > the machine anyway... > > >> * 1 dead IBM ThinkPad 700, due to battery leakage, that needs to be >> stripped down and given a good clean and checked for damage > > OK... > >> * 1 dead Acorn RISC PC and a spare motherboard, which to be honest, I >> suspect I can sort out myself :) > > Pitty, that's the only one I have a schematic for. > >> >> Fancy having a crack at the two Macs and the "Butterfly"? Happy to pay >> for your time, and I'll deliver them to you. I'll buy and bring a set >> of replacement capacitors for the iMac. > > Quite possibly, but as I said, there'll be no charge. Alternatively I can > bring a small-ish toolkit and test gear to you and at least fix the > easier machines, and get some idea what needs to be done ot the others. > Let me know... OK, thanks, and I will do! -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Non-revenue-producing (Was: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 Message-ID: <20110813092714.U69797 at shell.lmi.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Unfortunately, I've been informed by the powers-that-be that while it is > perfectly legal for me to use my workshop for my hobby, if I make money > using it, it's a business and I have to meet all sorts of safety > regualtions, such as fitting guards to machine tools, fume estraction > equipment to the soldring iron, etc. Needless to say this would cost me a > lot more that I could evr make from doing such jobs, so while I'll hapily > help you fix your machines, I cannot accept payment for it. But that does NOT preclude you giving Tony an appropriate gift. Legally gifts may include currency, but that might look like non-compliance on Tony's part, so stick to interesting old hardware, or gift certificates to his suppliers. End of cctalk Digest, Vol 96, Issue 18 **************************************

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PDP 11/53 XXDP ZRQC?? on 5 1/4 floppy needed

by dj.taylor4＠verizon.net

Yes, I could use the RX33 format. Email me an image and I'll get PUTR to write it out. Use to be able to do this long ago, but I have changed computers so many times that I lost the ability. Doug At 07:50 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote: >On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net> wrote: > > Did you ever get the disk you were looking for? I need the same thing, I > > had one but accidentally over wrote it. > > > > Doug Taylor > >Are you looking for this in RX33 format? Given an RX33 image do you >have the capability to write it out to a physical floppy from a PC? >It shouldn't be too difficult to cook up a bootable RX33 XXDP image >using SIMH. Of course only a subset of the XXDP diagnostics will fit >on a single floppy so you need to tailor the set to the target system >and task at hand. > >-Glen

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WANTED: More regional collectors

by cfox1＠cogeco.ca

At 09:03 PM 12/08/2011, you wrote: >Hi, >I run the website http://oldcomputers.net >I get a lot of old computer systems offered to me for cheap or free, >but most I don't want - too big, or too far away to pay shipping. > >A while back I asked for other collectors who would be receptive to >these orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so far! > >But entire parts of the US are still open - the East coast is >covered pretty well, but west of the Mississippi River these is >almost no one until the coast. I've got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in >SLC, but that's about it. > >Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and I'll try to get >you some good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). > >Thanks- >Steven Stengel >http://oldcomputers.net Please put me down for Windsor Ontario Canada. Charlie Fox Charles E. Fox 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor Ont. 519-254-4991 N8Y3j8 www.chasfoxvideo.com

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First IBM PC Commercial

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

Anyone know where I can find the first IBM PC commercial? It's not on youtube and they have one on Gametrailers.. I'm looking for it to post on my blog for the 30th anniversary of the PC

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Solaris 10 update 10 is available [OT]

by vintagecoder＠aol.com

Sign up for the yahoo Hercules VM group. They will probably have what you need. Also google or scroogle for Bob Abeles, he is the guy that got the VM distribution from IBM packaged, IIRC. ------Original Message------ From: Christian Corti Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ReplyTo: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Solaris 10 update 10 is available [OT] Sent: 12 Aug 2011 15:32 On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, vintagecoder at aol.com wrote: > Don't everybody grab it now until my downloads finish! Still waiting for Solaris 11 and perhaps silently migrating to FreeBSD in the future (ZFS is a must-have nowadays). | Collecting: DOS assemblers, compilers, & books (Z80, M68K, 6502, 808X) | | Software & doc for IBM S/360 through OS/390 | Hmm, I could need a VM/SP Rel.5 Starter System tape image in order to install my VMSUP distribution. Christian

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Solaris 10 update 10 is available

by vintagecoder＠aol.com

Don't everybody grab it now until my downloads finish! -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Vintage Coder America Online ivagntrpbqre at nby.pbz <ROT13> | | | | Collecting: DOS assemblers, compilers, & books (Z80, M68K, 6502, 808X) | | Software & doc for IBM S/360 through OS/390 | | | | Can't find: Ada 95 compilers for MVS/ESA & Solaris (Sparc) | | PL/I X Optimizing Compiler for MVS, APL/SV for MVS | |---------------------------------------+--------------------------------| | Powered by Slackware 64 Intel and Solaris 10 Sparc | |=======================================+================================| | PGP Key 4096R 0x1CB84BEFC73ACB32 Encrypted email preferred | | PGP Fingerprint 5C1C 3AEB A7B2 E6F7 34A0 2870 1CB8 4BEF C73A CB32 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Computer History Book project

by david＠classiccomputing.com

OK, my Kickstarter campaign is a great success, but it's coming upon it's end. If you would like to pre-purchase a special Kickstarter edition, then please check out - http://t.co/8iSzNKF Your welcome to freely read the entire first issue of the zine "Historically Brewed" here - http://www.classiccomputing.com/hb.html Thanks! Best, David Greelish, Computer Historian President, Atlanta Historical Computing Society Classic Computing The Home of Computer History Nostalgia http://www.classiccomputing.com Classic Computing Blog Classic Computing Show video podcast "Stan Veit's History of the Personal Computer" audiobook podcast Retro Computing Roundtable podcast

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Format Question for M8639 YA (RQDX1)

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

I just finished running ZRQB?? using two different RQDX1 controllers. The drive used in each case was an RD51. While each RD51 drive works correctly under the RQDX1 controller which was used to format the drive, each RD51 will not work with the other RQDX1 controller. Each RQDX1 is able to successfully use the same RX50 floppy drive. Each RQDX1 is so old that the version of the EPROMs can not be read. They look to be the same, but I don't have an EPROM reader. I always thought that any given M8639 YA controller produces the same format. Can anyone comment? This is the first time that I have ever seen an incompatibility. Any advice would be appreciated. Jerome Fine

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Happy Birthday (Corrected)

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

Happy belated birthday to Steve who on Aug 11 became 61 Happy Birthday to the IBM PC who on Aug 12 became 30..

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