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OT: Care and feeding of vacuum tube electronics?

by gregorym＠cadvision.com

Hi. I recently acquired a 1950's vintage Gibson GA-30 guitar amp. Never having owned a tube-based amp before, I'm clueless about the proper way to use this amp without abusing it (and it sounds great, so I want it to last a long time! :v) . For example, should I allow the tubes to warm up for a few minutes before playing, and are there any special precautions I should follow after playing (i.e. do I need a cool-down period before powering down?). Any advice would be much appreciated. A quick Web- search didn't reveal much except prices on used equipment. Thanks! Mark.

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no rom basic

by fpp＠concentric.net

Hi, Just a few possibilities. Some hard drives will cause the above message if the 0 track has been altered (written over) linux is well know for this and the only way I know to resolve this is to low level format the drive. A lot of 386 and early 486 Award BIOS machines have an option of hard drive utility. If you do you're all set. I chose a 3 for the interleave value. Try and boot the computer from the floppy, then run fdisk to see if you can reset the hd. Check to see if any of the jumpers are missing from the pcboard part of the drive. Try typing the drive manufacture and model in Alta-Vista and see if the specs come up. That usually works for me. If you have no set-up disk..... try the following on boot to get to the setup up Menu. 1) Hit CTRL+ALT+S or 2) Hit CTRL+ESCP or 3) Hit DEL Paul At 06:21 PM 2/7/99 +0100, royston hill wrote: >Hi ,can you assist .we have a old 386 with a conner 80 meg HD .We needed >to clean same and used the zero fill from disk manager on boot up. we >got message NO ROM BASIC >SYSTEM HALTED we cannot find anything on this >error message.or what we did wrong ?????? regards from africa ROY HILL >

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Help: scanning old computer manuals

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Try setting the scanner on either grayscale or monochrome, 150-200dpi. This is what I use when scanning any tyoe of documnentation. I have an Artec 4800dpi scanner. -Jason -----Original Message----- From: Jay West <jlwest(a)tseinc.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 12:14 PM Subject: Help: scanning old computer manuals >Ok, I've finally gotten around to attempting to scan a lot of the classic >computer documentation that I have. However, I have run into a problem >perhaps some here could shed some light on... > >Whenever I scan a page from a manual, the scanned image on the screen looks >horrible. However, when I print it out it is absolutely perfect. Yes, I've >tried zooming in on the image on screen, it is unreadable still. One more >twist is that if I send the image to my OCR software, it turns it into text >with almost perfect accuracy. My scan settings are Line Art at 300dpi. > >My scanner is legal size, a scanport 2400 and the application software is >Uload Photoimpact SE. My printer is an HP deskjet 820cse, and the video card >in my system is a Diamond speedstar A50 w/8mb ram. Since the scanned >document looks bad even when still in the scanmodule driver (before getting >passed to the graphics application), I don't think photoimpact has anything >to do with it. > >I wanted to put some of the scanned documents up on the web, but since they >look horrible on screen I'm not sure how to proceed. Of course, they can be >downloaded and printed and look great, but... I have downloaded old dec >documentation that looked fine onscreen and printed fine too. > >Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong? > >Jay West > >

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Abject apology for spam response

by gram＠cnct.com

Sorry about that. Wasn't paying much attention and rather assumed that the advertiser had set the response address to itself. Glad I also neglected to attach the images. (If you want to see them, they're on my home page and no, I didn't create them). OBclassic: anybody got a copy of TRS-edit (a vi clone) for the Radio Shack Color Computer that they're not using? The current GNU equivalents seem to crash my system during the compile, I think that they're too big for a 512k OS-9 system, or else I've got a hardware memory problem -- and the CoCo 3 memory kits are rather hard to find these days. -- Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/> WARNING: The Attorney General has determined that Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms can be hazardous to your health -- and get away with it.

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no rom basic

by rackland＠intekom.co.za

Hi ,can you assist .we have a old 386 with a conner 80 meg HD .We needed to clean same and used the zero fill from disk manager on boot up. we got message NO ROM BASIC >SYSTEM HALTED we cannot find anything on this error message.or what we did wrong ?????? regards from africa ROY HILL

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Kennedy tape drive part

by museum＠techniche.com

Sam, Got 'em. Reply with your mailing address OK? Jon ====================================== >On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Jon Healey wrote: > >> If anyone wants me to pick up any let me know. >> >> They're 50 cents apiece plus shipping, which shouldn't >> be much. >> >> There were quite a few so I don't think that supply is a >> problem. >> >> Let me know soon. > >Sure, send me a dozen. Thanks. > >Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Always being hassled by the man. > > Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 > See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! > [Last web site update: 01/15/99] > >

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Ridiculous Osborne Revisited

by joe＠barrera.org

>The guy that did the high bid last time (Imsai) bought my Kaypro 2X and >I asked him if the seller made a deal with him since it came below the >"reserve" and believe it or not the dummy seller let a $400 bid slide. Hi Russ ("alice"), Well, once again I high bid on the thing -- this time it closed at $51.01 -- hey, if this keeps up, maybe after three more auctions, he'll give up and let me (as high bidder) get it for $17.38... :-) - Joe ("imsai")

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Laptop ID

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 99-02-06 19:56:01 EST, you write: << On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote: > Francois wrote: > > > > Hi, > > This gives a new meaning to the term LOG IN. > > Ok i'll add the :) just to be sure that nobody ask me how I can Log in into > > a wooden laptop (: > > By the way did you get the docking station with it? > > Francois > > > > >I've found a rare transitional form between the ancient abacus and the > > >modern laptop: the wooden laptop! OK, it's a pre-prototype mock-up of a > > I wouldn't feel any need to log in to a wooden computer. I'd just > politely axe for permission to enter. But, only if you saw it first. - don >> let's just hope you can login as root.

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no rom basic

by edick＠idcomm.com

what the message you're seeing says is that you may have forgotten to activate the partition, which you must do in all cases where you don't use the "entire drive" in your primary partition. try that, and see if it doesn't fix your problem. Dick ---------- > From: royston hill <rackland(a)intekom.co.za> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: no rom basic > Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 10:21 AM > > Hi ,can you assist .we have a old 386 with a conner 80 meg HD .We needed > to clean same and used the zero fill from disk manager on boot up. we > got message NO ROM BASIC >SYSTEM HALTED we cannot find anything on this > error message.or what we did wrong ?????? regards from africa ROY HILL

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Euro on old computers

by Philip.Belben＠PowerTech.co.uk

>> ObCC: so what did you UKans do to get your funny-looking L on >> computers, terminals, and printers imported from ASCII-speaking >> countries? > > It's character 0xA3 (decimal 163, octal 243) in ISO Latin 1, and most > systems that don't have a special key for it map it to the "#" key. On > older systems, quite often the drivers replace the "#" character with the > pound symbol, but some replace the "$". ISO Latin on a classic computer? Pull the other one! ISTR that the IBM PC had it at decimal 156. I have seen it replace $, #, \ (Commodore VIC) and ` (IIRC FTS Series 88, which loaded the character set >from disk at boot). Diablo 96-spoke daisywheels used either ESC-Y or ESC-Z (Not in a position to look it up and I can't remember what the 96th spoke was for, either) Philip.

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new toy!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> The 1002 HOST interface has a different address, register command <structure > though there are similarities wbeing both from WD. < <How do the above relate to the 8-bit IDE interface? The 8bit IDE looks like the 1002WA ISA 8bit controller. The 1002HDO host interface however does not. In the 8bit worlds there seems to be three different schemes. <> In any case adding a hard disk to kaypro requires utility software, an <> interface and BIOS. < <But if you have the TurboROM, you already have all of that with the <exception of the interface. How big a chore would it be to adapt the <WD1002/Host interface to the 8-bit IDE? If one could do that with <minimum difficulty, it could provide an easy 40mb of HD storage - a huge <amount on a CP/M machine. It's not easy. The host interface only allows for a few address lines and 8bit IDE is both scarce ands strange. For practical use and the difficulty of interface doing a 16bit IDE converter is more practical. The real problem is you no matter what will be writing a bios for the kaypro. People with the correct controller and MFM disk are already faced with things like the drive needs replacing and there is no formatter or partition utility if the drive is greater than 8mb. Check out TCJ #80, a 1002WXA or similar is easy as pie to interface to a 8bit bus (like the host adaptor port). and they are common enough as they were about the best thing for the XT class. It means using a MFM drive but, st225s and st251s are common and there are old 3.5" mfms that work good with those too. The bios problem remains though. Oh, 40mb would have to be sliced (partitioned) into 5 8Mb logical drives under cpm. I know as my SB180 and AmproLB both have 20 and 45mb drives. Under CPM even 5mb is a lot of space and a 1.44mb floppy is very roomy. The 781k format allows me to have all of my most common utilities and programming tools on one drive and work space on another. That good enough. Allison

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Laptop ID

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Actually, I though ":)" meant that the person typing was smiling when they when they wrote it. >> BTW, " :) " is an extremely rude and nasty way to insult somebody by stating >> that they are too stupid to know what is or isn't a joke :-)

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Ridiculous Osborne Revisited

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

Seems the bidders are losing interest, not to mention he's changed the title of it where it doesn't reflect the word Osborne (so a search doesn't show it). There's less than 8 hrs on it and the high bid is $12.... The guy that did the high bid last time (Imsai) bought my Kaypro 2X and I asked him if the seller made a deal with him since it came below the "reserve" and believe it or not the dummy seller let a $400 bid slide. It's listed on e-pay right now as http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=62164945 in case anyone has any interest.

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Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

I am having a little trouble with my TRS Model IV . When I boot off of the TRSDOS system disk, the system prompts for the time and won't go any farther. When I enter the time, it clears the field and prompts again. The computer works just fine with all my other software so, I suspect the disk is corrupt. If anyone has an extra copy of TRSDOS 6.x laying around, I'd really appreciate it. TIA, Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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Abject apology for spam response

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Sorry about that. Wasn't paying much attention and rather assumed >that the advertiser had set the response address to itself. Glad I >also neglected to attach the images. (If you want to see them, >they're on my home page and no, I didn't create them). The guy was a spammer... the only way to stop them is to make them hurt by NOT giving them any business... I know I won't... I don't do business with ANYONE who spams, even if I were otherwise in need of their service... Megan

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photographing olf computers/parts

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 09:28 PM 2/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >> are quite adequate. Screens are about 72dpi, my Sony Mavica FD-71 is >> 640x480 (or a little over 100dpi for a 4x6 photo). > >Digital cameras are not cheap enough to be worth buying just to stick >pictures on the web. For the same cost I could probably get a second-hand >'classic' camera, and have a lot of fun restoring it, and then take some >real pictures. Consider: Sony Mavica: $660 Take picture, size, and upload. Scanner (Cheap) $50 Cheap 35mm Camera $50 Film - dollar or two per roll Developing (Cheap) $4 per roll ScanTime (I got it down to 4 minutes per pic) So, for 24 pics: Sony Scan $660 $105 Equip/Supplies $ 0 $ 96 Scan time (at $60/hr) $ x $ x Size/Upload (same for both) ---- ---- $660 $201 Now for multiple rolls (say 5): Sony Scan $660 $125 Equip/Supplies $ 0 $480 Scan Time ---- ---- $660 $605 The more you take, the more cost effective it becomes. (Mind you, I don't know how you value your time, but waiting for a scanner hardly seems a good use of my time). I know I've taken a lot more than 5 rolls worth of digpics -- Take a look at <http://www.sinasohn.com/urbadv/phalbum.htm> for example. And I've got a lot of classic computers to take too. The Mavica is not the cheapest DigCamera either. If you go for one of the less expensive models, your costs go way down. > >Also those digital cameras are too darn small. I don't fancy having to >fix the thing... > >-tony > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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AD:Family Reunion T Shirts & More

by print4ever＠micronet.net

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Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS

by fauradon＠pclink.com

Hi, Check this site out http://wwws.enterprise.net/fortknox/emoticon/smiley.html Francois >Sam, >I am still a newbie to this group and the internet. Please answer this question. >What does :) mean? >John Amirault >

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Wanted: Just about anything IMSAI

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Compupro made a Z80 slave card that supported between 64K and 256K or RAM <that had a RS-232 port. If I recall correctly you could only put 8 of thes I don't see it in my old catalogs. the closest one was MPX-1 with an 8085, 16k ram, Transient master and interrupts(8259a). Teltek, Konan, Macrotek and SDS did make them however. <There was another method of placing multiple CPU on your bus. That basical <ment building a Single Board Computer (SBC) that could use the S-100 <Temporary Master Access (TMA) hand shaking. The S-100 supported up to 16 o <these TMA on a bus. The advantages is the TMA's tended to use the bus more <efficiently comparied to slaves boards with requried a bus master present <servicing them. I don't know who use to make SBC that fully IEEE 696 <standard for TMA access but do know that they were out there. Been there done that. Used 4 z80s in a symetrical loosely coupled multiprocessing system. One requirement is local and public pool memory that any DMA (device or transient master) can address. Allison

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Fwd: Old computers

by Roger＠Sinasohn.com

An aside, if anyone is interested in a IIgs, IIe, or Atari 800, please let me know; there's a thrift shop hereabouts with them. FYI... Reply to: >From: DUpah19927(a)aol.com >I was browsing through your web site about the old computers that you collect. >I have a couple of old computers myself that I am looking to sell. If you >would like to have them or know of anyone else that would like them, please >let me know. > >I am attaching the pictures of the computers I have right now. The first is >an Apple IIc+. The other is an Epson Apex, built in 1980. > >Let me know, >D > >Attachment Converted: "C:\DOWNLOAD\ATTACH\EPSON.zip" > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Trash or Treasure?

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

>I have an old IBM motherboard in front of me, and not really sure if it's >worth keeping/trading or (gasp) trashing. It's marked "16KB-64KB CPU" on >the top, 3 of the 4 banks or RAM are occupied. IBM chips are dated >1981/1982. Otherwise I don't really know what to look for in identifing >this. Well I'd keep it. Thats the original IBM PC motherboard. The only other question would be which of the first few bios revisions it has.

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Wooden Laptops [ Re: Laptop ID ]

by joebar＠microsoft.com

Speaking of wooden laptops... check out http://www.luddite.com/ludditehome/product.html - Joe :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nev Dull <nev(a)bostic.com> To: /dev/null <nev(a)bostic.com> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 1:05 PM Subject: HTML O' The Day > >http://www.luddite.com/ > ... the finest in custom wooden computing. >

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~OT: Computer misconceptions

by fauradon＠pclink.com

Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do (some of us can manage both;) Francois >A classic misconception, fostered by humans... When your bill is wrong, >your bank >account balance screwed up, your paycheck short.. They say IT WAS A >COMPUTER ERROR! > > Will > > >Max Eskin wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I'm thinking of putting together an FAQ-like document intended to combat >> the stupid ideas people have about computers. So, does anyone have any ideas >> for common misconceptions about computers that I should address? So far, I >> have the places various things originated (i.e. IBM did _not_ invent the >> PC, Apple did _not_ invent the GUI, etc.) >> >> --Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com) >

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Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS

by fauradon＠pclink.com

I don't think that 2/5/99 is a more valid date than 5/2/99 Anyways the Europeans got it right you are the one writting the date backward. The proof is that everyone in europe places the day first so they must be right. Hint the Europeans go in increasing relevance: day/month/year and not the very unelegant month/day/year. Why don't you set the time in Minutes:Seconds:Hours while you're at it? Francois Disclaimer: I've adopted the US standard now but I think it sucks. >Are you sure you're entering the time in the "correct" format (i.e. not >like those silly Europeans who put the day before the month?) > >Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Always hasslin' the man. > > Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 > See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! > [Last web site update: 01/15/99] >

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Help: Thinker toys Wunderbuss???

by dogas＠leading.net

I have a chance to get an old system but I'm having trouble locating info for it.... It's a homebrew (s-100??? mounted on plywood for chriscakes). Thinker toys Wunderbuss, 11 slot mb, 2x8" drives, 2x(stringy?)wafer drives, alot of wirewrap boards... maybe a punchtape/reader :) !!! Can anyone give me more/any info on this type of setup?? Thanks - Mike

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Basis 108 (was: TRW Swap Meet)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> wrote: > BASIS Incorporated > 5435 Scotts Valley Drive > Scotts Valley CA 95066 > (408) 438-5804 > > This would seem to imply that there should be quite a few more over here > somewhere. Hmm. I'm just flipping through some issues of the First Basis Users Group newsletter, and it looks like Basis in Scotts Valley was out of business by October 1983 (with its inventory being bought by an "investor" and re-sold through a couple of other companies on west and east coasts), and other attempts at establishing a distributorship through other US-based companies met with varying degrees of failure, with the end result being that if you wanted a Basis you had to buy it >from Basis in Germany or find a dealer willing to do that for you. And it looks like there was some sort of Basis in Germany into at least 1987 when I run out of newsletters. But yeah, I have one, a friend has one, he had another one when he lived back east, I've seen others go by, and they were very nice machines, superior to Apple ][s in several ways. So I don't think the 108s are that uncommon in the US. A 208, now.... -Frank McConnell

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3-phase (was: Re: CDC 9766 Drive and packs)

by Philip.Belben＠pgen.com

> so don't get the idea that you can > run it in your house or garage. My parents have 3-phase electricity at home, but I don't (yet). But I think it's more common in the UK than in the US. (BTW my parents have a 16th century farmhouse which they heat electrically during the winter. Maximum load we've measured, 36kW.) I am told (I think it was Toy Duell first pointed it out to me) you can get reasonable 3-phase using a largeish induction motor (say a mechanical rating 2 or 3 times the electrical load you want to connect), without a mechanical load: wiring one phase to ground, a second to line, and the third to line through a capacitor for an approximate 60 degree phase shift. The induction motor will also act as a generator, and produce enough emf to tidy up the phase relationships and voltage imbalance. But be warned - you will not have the right voltage, and one of the phases (rather than the star point) will be at ground potential. A bank of three single-phase isolating transformers should do the trick if either of these is critical (a single autotransformer, upstream of the converter, will also work if only voltage is critical.) Also be warned. I am confident that this works _in theory_ but I have never tried it. Philip.

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Wanted: Just about anything IMSAI

by dragon＠panix.com

>> Three questions: >> >> Where will you be shipping from? >> >I'm in Denver I am in New Jersey. >> How much do you want? >> >I'd settle for a similar function for the ISA bus. I don't have any ISA cards to give away, so I offer you $10 per card. >What's a slave card? A Slave S-100 card usually have some memory, a CPU and at least a RS-232 connector. What would happend is that when your system started up. Your master CPU on the S-100 bus would load the memory of the slave cards with something, like the slaves own version of CP/M. You could have as many of these things as you box could fit. There were a number of way I/O to the the users of the system could be accumplished. One was route all the slaves I/O to the user throught the the s-100 bus to a I/O card connected to the users terminal. The other and more tipical way what to have each user have their termianl connected to the slaves RS-232 port. The drawback to this method was there had to be a bus master handling all bus traffic to an from I/O devices such as disk drives for each of these slaves since the slaves could not do it themselves. Compupro made a Z80 slave card that supported between 64K and 256K or RAM that had a RS-232 port. If I recall correctly you could only put 8 of these on you bus. But you could hack them to put as many as your bus supported. This is the type of board I am looking for. There was another method of placing multiple CPU on your bus. That basical ment building a Single Board Computer (SBC) that could use the S-100 Temporary Master Access (TMA) hand shaking. The S-100 supported up to 16 of these TMA on a bus. The advantages is the TMA's tended to use the bus more efficiently comparied to slaves boards with requried a bus master present servicing them. I don't know who use to make SBC that fully IEEE 696 standard for TMA access but do know that they were out there. >I have a couple of primitive (as primitive as any S-100 board) SBC's from >whoever made the famous SBC-100 and SBC-200. I have one of each, I think, >and they're in unknown condition, as I inherited them from someone who was >moving away and didn't want to haul them. What an SBC-100 and a SBC-200 do? Keep me in mind should you know of anyone who has IMSAI 8080 system for sale out in your neck of the woods. Michael

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FS: M868, M8650

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

I'm not quite willing to give away my secret source yet (they're a commercial source), but I wanted to let folks know in case anyone is desperately searching for the following.... My source has several omnibus modules available: M868 simple dectape control $100.00 plus shipping M8650 console interface $100.00 plus shipping Let me know if interested... Jay West

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Need help on old Tandy stuff -- Allison? Anyone else?

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 09:32 PM 2/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >me wants the machine code monitor. But the user in me wants to be able to >enter text. And most people are just users. I didn't know there *was* a user in you. 8^) >Yes, you could get text editor ROMs for the HX20. But you couldn't buy an >HX20 and start using it to enter text in the field. That, IMHO, is why >the M100 was more successful. Don't underestimate the value of a RatShack on every corner. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Help: Thinker toys Wunderbuss???

by edick＠idcomm.com

It's difficult to give you information about wirewrapped boards. What, exactly, did you want to know. You're probably right in that the backplane is S-100, since that's what the Wunderbuss was. It's clear what the 8" floppy drives are. I certainly can't tell you what the punch/reader is if you can't tell. Mounting a motherboard on plywood was an easy way to do things if you knew well in advance that you needed to "get at" the boards with 'scope probes, etc. It saved extender boards and the associated problems. Dick ---------- > From: Mike <dogas(a)leading.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Help: Thinker toys Wunderbuss??? > Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 5:16 PM > > I have a chance to get an old system but I'm having trouble locating info > for it.... > > It's a homebrew (s-100??? mounted on plywood for chriscakes). Thinker toys > Wunderbuss, 11 slot mb, 2x8" drives, 2x(stringy?)wafer drives, alot of > wirewrap boards... maybe a punchtape/reader :) !!! > > Can anyone give me more/any info on this type of setup?? > > Thanks > - Mike

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Commodore 64 stuff wanted

by dgm+＠pitt.edu

I'm specifically looking for a power supply for a Commodore 64, but I'd also like to pick up some old documentation, too. In particular, I used to have the "Programmer`s Reference Manual" and a book that mapped all of the memory locations and described the kernel routines in detail. Any info would be appreciated. I'm in the Pittsburgh, Pa area. Dave McMurtrie

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Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

Actually, I meant to say "Date" not "Time". Can't blame this on the europeans. "02/04/99" should work either way. Actually, I assumed that it was operator error but the other apps work OK. Since the other software works properly (IE: Profile III), I "think" we can eliminate hardware problems. And... since the dummy behind the keyboard (Me) is functioning correctly, that only leaves the software. Another question: There are several sites on the net that have Model III and IV software on-line. How do I get the software from a modern Pentium (surfing machine) on to a diskette that is readable by the Model IV? I also have a TRS-80 TL2 with 5-1/4 and 3-1/2 inch drives. Can I download the software on to a 720K disk and then transfer it 360K using the TL2? Thanks... Steve Robertson - QA Team Leader <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> -----Original Message----- From: Sam Ismail [SMTP:dastar@ncal.verio.com] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 2:24 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Re: Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Steve Robertson wrote: > I am having a little trouble with my TRS Model IV . When I boot off of the > TRSDOS system disk, the system prompts for the time and won't go any > farther. When I enter the time, it clears the field and prompts again. Are you sure you're entering the time in the "correct" format (i.e. not like those silly Europeans who put the day before the month?) Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Always hasslin' the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 01/15/99]

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Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

At 11:23 AM 2/5/99 -0800, Sam Ismail wrote: >On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Steve Robertson wrote: >> I am having a little trouble with my TRS Model IV . When I boot off of the >> TRSDOS system disk, the system prompts for the time and won't go any >> farther. When I enter the time, it clears the field and prompts again. >Are you sure you're entering the time in the "correct" format (i.e. not >like those silly Europeans who put the day before the month?) Try entering a 1998 date. The year '99' to TRSDOS may be "special" in the sense that they code it to mean "date not initialized". If this fixes it then you've just entered the Y2K Zone ... --Chuck

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1130 has been claimed

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

In einer eMail vom 05.02.99 16:09:15 MEZ, schreiben Sie: << John, Hi. Do they have a website? If yes, can you supply the URL? Thanks, John Amirault Jgzabol(a)aol.com wrote: > There is a _WORKING_ 1130 at the IBM Museum in Sindelfingen, Germany. > > John G. Zabolitzky >> As far as I know, they do NOT have a web site. I believe telephone is the only way to get into any contact with them. John

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Wanted: Just about anything IMSAI

by dragon＠panix.com

I am trying to get 2 more IMSAI 8080. Does any one out there have one for sale Michael

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Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS

by fauradon＠pclink.com

Me Too... I didn't mean to read hostile;) Francois >Oops. I forgot to add the :) at the end to prevent people from getting >hostile ;)

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photographing olf computers/parts

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 05:22 AM 1/29/99 +0000, you wrote: >> If I were you I'd invest in a good digital camera though. I use an >> Olympus D-220L and its fab. The pictures it takes are excellent. > >Hmm... All the consumer-grade digital cameras that I've seen have a >resolution that's noticeably worse than a good lens/film combination. And But if your intended destination is a web page, most consumer grade cameras are quite adequate. Screens are about 72dpi, my Sony Mavica FD-71 is 640x480 (or a little over 100dpi for a 4x6 photo). And I'll say that the Mavica is incredible with a 10x zoom and good resolution. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

*1987*... Now there's foresight! Well... That sounds like the problem. I had tried some other years in case the "99" was the problem but, didn't think to try anything that far back. I'll give that a try when I get home. I Don't have my Linux box running at the moment so, I'll grab the emulator later. Thanks. Steve Robertson - QA Team Leader <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> -----Original Message----- From: Ward D. Griffiths III [SMTP:gram@cnct.com] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 3:17 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Re: Need a copy of TRSDOS 6 OS The problem is that TRSDOS 6 will not accept _any_ date after 1987. That applies to 6.0, 6.1 and 6.2. Try giving it a 1986 date and see if it takes it. Supposedly, it is still possible to get the update to TRSDOS to fix this from Tandy, however it is not necessary. Go to Tim Mann's web page, where he has available for download the final release of LS-DOS, which has the fix. http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/personal/Tim_Mann/trs80.html Oh, and while you're there, and if you run Linux or any other flavor of *nix, grab a copy of his newest improved xtrs TRS-80 emulator. I am now running Model One Scripsit and VisiCalc on my P133 notebook with no need to use dosemu as a go-between as was the case with the other emulators I'd tried. (There's a .rpm of the version a couple of patchlevels back at contrib.redhat.com). -- Ward Griffiths "the timid die just like the daring; and if you don't take the plunge then you'll just take the fall" Michael Longcor

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Building boot disks for PC RT 6150

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 99-02-05 14:38:40 EST, you write: << I want to confirm that RT is really sick by trying different boot disk because both of my diagnostic and boot install disk always gives rapid flashing "99". What part can cause this problems even it did booted the disks but it stops with this error? >> i was meaning to get out my RT info to check, but never got a round tuit. you might want to post to comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt not much traffic, but i'm sure someone will respond to you there.

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1130 has been claimed

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

There is a _WORKING_ 1130 at the IBM Museum in Sindelfingen, Germany. John G. Zabolitzky

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Panasonic Hand Help Computer

by msg＠computerpro.com

Greetings, I am aware that the Panasonic HHC was a topic on this list some time ago; I have not yet had the fortitude to search the archives for leads therefore this request... Does anyone have any documentation (eg. user/operator manual, SNAP programming manual, cross-development s/w or information, schematics, etc.,etc.,etc.? If so, could you be convinced to make dups for cost and something for your time? We currently have a request in to a developer of Insurance software (on EPROM) to scour their archives for any information but as of yet they've not succeeded. All replies are much appreciated. Michael Grigoni Cybertheque Musuem

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Fwd: Diablo 1620 printer/typewrite

by cfandt＠netsync.net

Here's another one from the same fellow, FWIW. >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 224 >Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:29:39 EST >Reply-To: EasyGrk(a)AOL.COM >Sender: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List <HEATH(a)LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV> >From: Aaron Milavec <EasyGrk(a)AOL.COM> >Subject: Diablo 1620 printer/typewrite >To: HEATH(a)LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV > >============================= >DIABLO 1620--terminal/printer/electronic typewriter. The "Cadillac" of daisy >wheel printers in superb condition with manual. Has been loafing at 600 baud >for the last ten years. $399 plus shipping costs. > >DIABLO 1640 with problems: $100 plus shipping costs. > >Moving in two weeks, hence any serious offer will be considered. > >Wolf ++ W8TMY ++ EasyGrk(a)aol.com for reply and info > >--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- -- >To subscribe: listserv(a)listserv.tempe.gov >and in body: subscribe HEATH yourfirstname yourlastname >To unsubscribe: listserv(a)listserv.tempe.gov >and in body: signoff HEATH >Archives for HEATH: http://www.tempe.gov/archives >--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --

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Fwd: H89 + H8 for sale

by cfandt＠netsync.net

Well, FWIW, I'm just posting this from the Heath reflector if anybody's interested. Apparently, the fellow feels his work is worth something as I think the prices are a bit high. He doesn't actually realize the value of these things, so go easy on him. (I do not know him. I'm just a silly engineer myself and probably can do as good of work ;) Don't know exactly what he means by "detached keyboard" in the H89/H8 combo. I know one trick published years ago was to neatly cut off the keyboard end of the H89 case, place nice looking covers over the openings and run a suitable ribbon cable between. --Chris >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 224 >Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:22:36 EST >Reply-To: EasyGrk(a)AOL.COM >Sender: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List <HEATH(a)LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV> >From: Aaron Milavec <EasyGrk(a)AOL.COM> >Subject: H89 + H8 for sale >To: HEATH(a)LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV > >+++++++++++++++++++++++ >I have built three H89 Heathkit Computers. I am a Master Technician and have >wrapped the cables giving the interior a professional appearance. Would you >like to purchase one of these working units? > >Two (2) H89s, 14 years old, modest service, with 40+ diskettes filled with >various software, plus all manuals, $300 each plus shipping costs > >H89, with H8 (dual diskette drives, stand-alone) and with detached keyboard >(nicely finshed), $350 plus shipping costs, with 40+ diskettes filled with >software, plus manuals. > >Wolf ++ W8TMY ++ EasyGrk(a)aol.com for reply and info > >--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- -- >To subscribe: listserv(a)listserv.tempe.gov >and in body: subscribe HEATH yourfirstname yourlastname >To unsubscribe: listserv(a)listserv.tempe.gov >and in body: signoff HEATH >Archives for HEATH: http://www.tempe.gov/archives >--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/

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Need some O.T. help

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

> With the MB outside the case on a wooden surface and nothing connected >except the power supply plug and the front push button, all that I get is a >twitch from the cpu cooling fan, on only the first push, after that nothing >until it sets for a while. This sort of thing happens with AT power supplies if there is insufficient load. Does the power supply cooling fan rotate? You can check by adding extra load like a hard drive

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Wanted: IMSAI 8" Floppy Drive Box

by dragon＠panix.com

IMSAI made a blue box that housed two 8-inch floppy disk drives. If you know where I could find one please e-mail me. Michael

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Commodore 64 stuff wanted

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 08:51 AM 2/5/99 -0500, David G Mcmurtrie <dgm+(a)pitt.edu> wrote: > >In particular, I used to have the "Programmer`s Reference Manual" and a >book that mapped all of the memory locations and described the kernel >routines in detail. You can still get copies of "Mapping the C-64" from the author, Sheldon Leemon, at <sheldon(a)ameritech.net>. - John

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Wanted: Z80 S-100 SBC or Z80 S-100 Slave cards

by dragon＠panix.com

I am primarily looking for some several Z80 S-100 slave cards. Compupro use to sell Z80 slave s100 cards with 64K or 256K of ram and serial port and parallel port. I also understand a one time some use to make S-100 SBC that met all the S-100 spec. So they could run as Temporary Bus Masters (TBM). Thus enabling someone to put up to 16 of them on the same S-100 bus. If you have a few either type you want to sell, e-mail me Michael

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DECStuff FS or trade

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi Bruce, ---------- > From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: DECStuff FS or trade > Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 1:20 PM > PDP-11/23+ with the floating point option. Used to live at Fluke Corp., and drive a laser trimmer for printed resistor arrays. Was working when pulled, so it should be OK. You still have this one ? Which one ist it anyway, quad or double ? I got some MS650 boards here ;-)) cheers, emanuel

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S100 boards

by edick＠idcomm.com

I don't know that this will settle anything for anyone, but I saw an old ad for the DJ2 just a day or so ago in an old mag and it certainly didn't have any HDD port. It was an FDC. I have a board from Industrial Microsystems which has a SASI port on it. I even have an old 8" HDD which should talk to it. I've never tried them, though. Dick ---------- > From: Huw Davies <H.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: RE: S100 boards > Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 7:47 PM > > At 06:28 AM 04-02-99 -0500, Bob Stek wrote: > > >I've got 50 cents that says the DJ 2D/B is a floppy controller, not a hard > >drive controller! > > I'll increase the bid to 2 Euros :-) My rusty memory reckons that it's a > floppy controller too... > > Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au > Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479 1999 > La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the > Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green"

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