Once upon a midnight dreary, Uncle Roger had spoken clearly: Not worth owning.... $180.00 Not worth owning... $125 (used Canon t-body or other *decent* 35mm) Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang.. No wonder you don't want to wait! My (new) Umax Astra 1220S - 600x1200 DPI, 23Meg scan: 45 Seconds flat. (lower resolutions are obviously faster - 15-20 sec's for 100-200 dpi) (erm, get a *good* SCSI card, too. Mine's a Diamond Fireport 40 UW - *fast*. -- that and the 256Meg RAM in my machine doesn't hurt either... ;-) As above, don't wait. Spend a little more for a good one. Also, the better scanners you can scan multiple pictures in one shot - my Umax does that. Of course, if you're doing solely web publishing where picture quality doesn't have to be pristine, your point is well taken. Erm... then you wait for the serial port. Tho I'm not keen on the Mavica (due to low resolution) waiting for scanner (sweet pix) vs. waiting for serial (cruddy pix) is a lot closer to a no-brainer. Of course there's USB, but those cameras are rather expensive yet (last I checked). I'm not knocking the digpix... for many, many things they're very handy; and the Mavica is about the best for web-stuff due to storage format... but it's much easier to re-touch a never-been-lossy-compressed 600dpi 23M image for best quality vs. a 640x480 mediocre-at-best pre-compressed image. And if you get a Ricoh digcamera, there's one thing it can do that *no* 35mm camera (that I know of) can... record a soundbyte with the picture and xfer the stuff over at the same time. Just my $0.000000002 (and that's all it's worth), Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.