For a scan of the BASIC syntax Guidelines got to:
www.pclink.com/fauradon
you'll find it in the "tech info" section
Francois
>At the last TRW, John picked up an HP85 that he stuck me with :). If
anyone
>is interested in it, $10 plus shipping from zip 93105. I haven't weighed it
>yet, but that can be done if anyone is interested. Condition unknown, but
>the guy said his son plugged it in and it worked. No manuals, plugins,
etc.
>come with the unit. I also plugged it in, and it ran my usual:
>
>10 print "hello"
>20 goto 10
>
>program with no problems, and it sounded like the printer was trying to
>print each iteration of the program. The tape drive roller is gooey
>although it is still round at this point :).
>
>Ahh, I see. However since I don't have an M7555 the cables aren't
>connected to anything underneath the backplane. This box has the WQESD
>for the disks and the 7546 for the TK50 (now MIA :-). Good to know.
There is also a little panel, secured by a couple of screws, through
which a cable for a TK50 passes. This pass-through could also be
used for the cables from the WQESD, so long as they are long enough
to run all the way from the board to the disk.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
I have three Torch C series machines that I no longer want. They are the
BBC architecture machines and NOT the variants that run Unix. I have two
hard disk based systems and one dual floppy system. One of the hard disk
based machines is in a pretty poor state so is probably best used for
spares. I do have some floppies for these machines. They are free to a
good home. They are very heavy so collection is probably best. I
am in Cambridge, UK.
--
Kevan
Collector of old computers: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/
I have some that I got from DEC surplus new and I think I have a couple used
ones for a whole lot cheaper than either of the prices for mentioned.
68 pin HD to 50 pin Centronics.
Dan
>> >
>> > I just ordered an external SCSI cable for my VaxStation 3100 model 40 -
which
>> > everyone said was terribly expensive due to it being a wierd connector.
>> > I ordered it from 1-800-digital and they want $58(us) + tax. For those
>> > with 3100 model 40s (it changes from model to model) the part number is
>> > 17-02-008-02.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I'd also like to point DECheads looking for cables to a place called
>> SeaCoast Digital, at http://www.seadec.com/. They have some dirt-cheap
>> prices on DEC cables. I'm sure you -don't- want to hear this now, Jim,
>> but I've ordered the exact same cable through seadec myself, and it was
>> $28.00 (sorry!). They're a very good source for that kind of thing.
>> I can't vouch for their other parts, as I've not compared prices for
>> memory or option boards etc. But definitely check them out if you need
>> cables.
>>
>> -Seth
>
>I'm looking at their web site now and they want 50 bucks for the same
cable.
>35 bucks for the 3 foot version.
>
>--
>Jim Strickland
>jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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>
I may have posted this before but I'm getting nervous. I saw an HP 125
computer at the Salvation Army Store at Lansdowne and Queen in Toronto. It
is all there but the keyboard, monitor, and box are slowly being seperated.
The manager has said $25 but I suspect that you could get him down to
about $20 at least as its been there so long. No I will not ship it but if
there is anyone in the area who wants it, get there quick. I,
unfortunately, have NO ROOM! left for much of anything. I am told it works
fine. I've never seen one before and suspect I may never again. Please
someone get it. Already the manuals have gone missing.
Colan
>Please, no attachments!
>
>Give a address to website if anyone is insterested to look at it.
>
>Some users on List have very limited resources and some dial in
>by the minute pay or by hour. $$$.
A thousand pardons - I should have known better. Sorry to all on the list!
Jay West
Bruce:
Okay, so this means I still owe you $6.12 for my share, right?
Jeff
On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 19:02:25 -0800 Bruce Lane
<kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> writes:
> I would like to extend a warm 'thanks!' to all of you who
>participated in
>the Teledisk Pro group buy.
>
> We've sold all our available shares. Sydex said that we
>definitely had to
>limit it to 50 people, tops, and that we've now got.
>
> I would also like to thank our list moderator (cripes, I don't
>even know
>who it is nowadays...) for allowing me to coordinate this effort on
>CLASSICCMP.
>
> Now the real work starts... getting the paperwork done! ;-)
>
>
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
>http://www.bluefeathertech.com
>Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
>SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
>"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in
>our own
>human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
>
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>Another observation is that the BA23 chassis has the connectors under the
>control box for an RDxx drive but there doesn't seem to be a controller
>in the uVax for them unless this controller was integrated into the CPU
>card or something? Its darn difficult to see where the cables come from
>and go to in the narrow tower, very unusual design it seems.
The controller (an RQDX1, 2 or 3) plugs into the backplane. The ribbon
cable from it runs under the card cage to the bottom of the backplane,
where there is a distribution board which splits the signals into
connectors for cables connect to up to two hard drives, and one
connector for a floppy.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
"emanuel stiebler" <emu(a)ecubics.com> wrote":
>If i read that right, there are 10 switches on this board. Switch 7 & 8
>are defined as:
>
>7 8
>off off Arbiter
>on off auxiliary 1
>off on auxiliary 2
>on on auxiliary 3
>
>Switch 7 is connected to pin 4 of the J2 connector (20 pin connector)
>Switch 8 is connected to pin 5 of the J2 connector.
Thanks... I'll have to recheck the manual, I guess I missed it. Now
I have to figure out what 'off' means... shorting pin 4 to what other
pin (shorted low or high).
I'm thinking of trying a KA630 as a coprocessor in a qbus pdp-11
system.
The KA650 manual mentions using the same board, but it says that only
the off-off configuration is supported. I wonder if the KA650 can
be a co-processor as well... But then, the KA650 doesn't have on-board
memory.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
I would like to extend a warm 'thanks!' to all of you who participated in
the Teledisk Pro group buy.
We've sold all our available shares. Sydex said that we definitely had to
limit it to 50 people, tops, and that we've now got.
I would also like to thank our list moderator (cripes, I don't even know
who it is nowadays...) for allowing me to coordinate this effort on
CLASSICCMP.
Now the real work starts... getting the paperwork done! ;-)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
Well, that depends.
PanValet (by Pansophic systems, originally) had version _tracking_ by line
number, and you could have multiple libraries, and migrate things between
them. There were similar competitive systems. Wisconsin DOT had PanValet
when I arrived there in 1975.
Amdahl UTS was Unix, complete with version control I imagine. Seems to me
this was around about 1980.
Hope that helps.
Jay
At 08:13 AM 2/26/99 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone recall when version control tools became available on IBM
>mainframe OSs?
>
>
>--
>David Wollmann
>DST / DST Data Conversion
>http://www.ibmhelp.com/
>
>ICQ: 10742063
>
---
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At 02:21 PM 3/1/99 -0800, Sellam Ismail wrote:
>Its the rape and
>pillage of this once serene hobby of collecting retired computers and
>bringing some life back into them for fun that I don't care for.
>
>I never got into this for the money.
No, you got into it for the groupies and the fame. ;-)
Or maybe you got into it because you saw highly under-appreciated
old computers selling for next to nothing, which is another way of
saying that you're wise and anticipated a market that hadn't
reached its full potential.
- John
The model number for the Monitor is 4863 (with my luck it's probably the
most common one). No light pen or HD (that's where the "pretty much" comes
in). I have't inventoried the software box yet but I've noticed the BASIC,
DOS 2.10, IBM Writting assistant and Print shop. I'm not sure when I'll get
around to setting it up.
Francois
>Hi,
>
>What is the model number on the monitor? There are two different
>monitors that I know of. Do you have an extra light pen? Does it have a
>hard drive? Do you want more info on IBM PCJr's? What cartridges do you
>have? Which version of DOS are you using? I suggest 3.3 . Please
>respond. I collect PCJr's and do have some extra parts and am in need of
>a light pen.
>
>John Amirault
>
>Francois wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>> Not all of us can find Altairs. So I had to brag about whatever it is
that I
>> got. (I would prefer to brag about an Altair though)
>> How many of have the IBM PCjr Carrying Case?
>> Francois
>>
>> >Francois,
>> >
>> > Whatever floats your boat!
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> >At 09:25 AM 2/27/99 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>Fine,
>> >>I got a complete PCjr with pretty much all of the peripherals ever made
>> for
>> >>it, two joysticks, color monitor, a box of software and the carrying
case.
>> >>So there!
>> >>Francois
>> >>
>> >>
>
On Mar 1, 12:38, Chuck McManis wrote:
> Subject: Tape drive identified!
> Thanks to everyone and some additional snooping the tape drive is indeed
an
> Exabyte 8200 8MM SCSI tape drive. It is connected to a SCSI board
labelled
> "TD Systems Inc"
> "VIK/QTO #2719"
> and a rom labelled:
> "Viking Q/B A3.1"
> (presumably QBus)
I'm pretty sure BSD2.11 supports it. I can't find the list right now, but
I think that's exactly what I had in my 11/83.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
I realize this isn't ebay related, but could someone clue me into what the
7546 controls? The DEC site lists it as a:
M7546-00 Q-BUS TAPE CNTRL, DBL 8.5
And its in my uVAX with no removable media.
--Chuck
Whilst aware that I'm breaching netiquette by copying personal email, I
think in this situation that Chris won't mind, as he's trying to sell these
items. I can't afford the prices he's asking (I'm not saying they're BAD
prices, nor am I saying they're GOOD. I just can't afford 'em), and felt
that rather than waste the time of both of us by attempting to significantly
haggle-down, I'd let everyone have-at him.
Top part is his response to my letter in response to his newsgroup ad.
---
A guy said 10 days ago he would send $200 (plus shipping)
for the Unix docs, which I accepted, but I haven't seen the
check yet so maybe it will be available again.
The vic20 had a price.
I would like $250 for a stack of pdp11 hardware fisch.
$70 for a folding fisch reader.
How about $100 for H-11 doc 3-ring binders, and
$140 for the paper tape media software. This is unused,
partly sealed.
$80 each for a couple rk05 packs containing rsx11m, rt11, ?
What do you think?
Rebate if you convert my 9-track unix tar tapes to CD or TR-3
tape (windoz). Also, you can then keep the 9-tracks, contents
are probably interesting to you.
310-393-5525
----------
From: Andrew Davie <adavie(a)mad.scientist.com>
To: c-bristol(a)usa.net
Subject: Re: ANTIQUE TV's & RADIO, etc. in L.A.,CA
Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 8:11 PM
Hi
I'm a classic computer collector, very interested in your Heathkit items,
and also the RT-11 docs. I have just aquired a PDP 11/23 PLUS, and would
love any documentation for that, too. You don't list prices for these
items - if it helps, I offer a good home :)
Please let me know if these items are still available, and I'll try and make
a swift and easy transaction - if the price is right!
Cheers
A
*** OLD COMPUTER EQUIP. NOT IBM STYLE, UNIX PDP-11, VIC20********
DOCUMENTATION: SOFTWARE: UNIX: full sets of docs for v.6, v.7,
4.1BSD, 4.2BSD, 4.3BSD, SUN OS2, SUN OS3, SunView. About 3 big
file boxes of UNIX docs. Also have distribution tape of v.7
for PDP-11 licensed to me from SCO (Santa Cruz Operation) and the
PDP11 hardware it is licensed for. I paid $1350 to SCO for this
licence and tape, forsale now Cheap! Original v6 Lyons course,
1978?. Bell SysV Driver writing course, 1985.
DOCUMENTATION: SOFTWARE: DEC OSs: Full set, RT-11 v2, v3, v4,
partial RSX-11. Also have the software on floppy and RK05, and
the PDP-11's that are licensed to run it. Also Heathkit
H-11 paper tape operating system, media and docs, new.
Also a couple of RSTS/E manuals. Disks also (RX01, RL01,RK05).
RT-11 set, XXDP Diagnostics, on 8" RX01 floppies and paper tape.
DOCUMENTATION: SOFTWARE: DEC OSs: Full set, RT-11 v2, v3, v4,
partial RSX-11. Also have the software on floppy and RK05, and
the PDP-11's that are licensed to run it. Cheap! Also Heathkit
H-11 paper tape operating system, media and docs, new.
DOCUMENTATION: HARDWARE: many DEC PDP-11 docs from
1970-1985 on microfiche. (Have reader too.)
VIC-20 Commodore computer with tape deck, books, games, working, $40
---
--
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Museum of Soviet Calculators
http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html
Yahoo! Netscape, New Scientist, The Wall Street Journal, Newsweek and UK
Independant
Cool Site!
>Err... The crosspoint switch is the C004. The C012 is related to the
>C011, and is a transputer link adapter to a normal computer bus. It's a
>bit like a UART for transputer links (and the normal computer side looks
>awfully similar to a DEC DL11 ;-)).
Oops, boy is my face red :-) I meant it used the one specific to the
T9000 which I don't remember off the top of my head. I guess I will have
to look it up to get further info (is may be the C104 or such).
Ram
This is the last call for folks interested in pooling resources to get a
copy of Teledisk Pro. So far, counting myself, we've got nine people in on
it. This dropped the per-person price down to around $17.00 each (shipping
included).
Sydex was willing to go along with the group buy on two conditions: First,
that there be one central point of contact (a person) that they can encode
the copy to; And second, that this same person be POC for all tech support
questions. I have volunteered to be this POC.
Given that the license would be for up to 25 users, we have sixteen slots
left. In the event we actually do get 25 people interested, it will drop
the per-person price down to around $6.00.
For those that may not know, Teledisk is a marvelously handy utility that
will read any floppy format that can be read using PC-based hardware,
including PCs equipped with such hardware as the well-known 'CompatiCard,'
and turn the data on said floppy into a single image file that can be
archived or sent to anyone else.
Once sent, anyone with similar hardware can reconstruct an exact image of
the original floppy using a freely redistributable extractor program.
As one might imagine, this has a lot of possibilities for preserving old
boot and application floppies for such things as KayPro's, Commodores,
Apples, DEC hardware, and God only knows how many other pieces of gear that
used floppies. The image files can be easily stored on long-lived media,
such as CD-R discs, and recreated at will.
Again, the only limitation is that a PC's floppy drive be able to, at the
hardware level, read the original diskette.
The current version runs under DOS, or under a DOS window in W95 or NT
Workstation. One caveat: Since it is possible that the program makes direct
hardware calls to the floppy drive, it may not perform as it should under
NT, thanks to NT's security features. Other than that, I know of no problems.
Will anyone else who may be interested in getting in on the group buy
please drop me a PRIVATE E-mail, so we don't end up cluttering the list?
Thanks in advance.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
This one is of special interest to Tim Shoppa, but I figured the rest of
the vax lovers here would be interested too.
I just ordered an external SCSI cable for my VaxStation 3100 model 40 - which
everyone said was terribly expensive due to it being a wierd connector.
I ordered it from 1-800-digital and they want $58(us) + tax. For those
with 3100 model 40s (it changes from model to model) the part number is
17-02-008-02.
Generally speaking this is the second time I've ordered formerly VERY expensive
parts through 1-800-digital and gotten them for a fraction of the price
people were quoted in the bad old days. If you have DEC hardware and need
some wierdo proprietary pieces for it - simms, cables, etc - I would encourage
you to call them and get a current quote on the prices. It's been speculated
that what's happening is Compaq is unloading the spares for post-end-of-life
DEC stuff, so you might want to do it soon.
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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Your debate about eBay filled up about 1/4 of my mail this morning.
It's obvious that you're at an impasse of opinion. The messages on the
subject are funny but the humor is the desparate kind. Since there IS
another list (as Megan and others pointed out) could you find some way to
tone down the traffic?
I swear, a few more of these arguments and I'll have enough data to create
an eBay-argument-generating program! :)
-- Derek
So I just got of the phone with David Webster:
David Webster <david(a)wccusa.com> Phone +1-408-353-5252
Webster Computer Corporation Tollfree 1-800-5WEBSTER
16040 Redwood Lodge Road Fax +1-408-353-5253
Los Gatos, CA 95033-9260, USA http://www.webstercomputer.com
Dave's company designed the WQESD controller and WOMBAT software and
sublicenced it to Sigma and Qualogy. He's selling a copy of the manual to
me. (Yippee!!)
Since some of you have offered to buy my "other" controller I asked him if
they had any left and he said he suspects they do. So if you need a Qbus
ESDI disk controller card you might give him an email or a call. I have no
idea what he would sell them for (didn't ask) but hey, you could get a
'new' one.
--Chuck
Does anyone know where I can get technical information on the Motorola
CyberSurfer cable modem? I want to know if there's any way to hack it to
do weird stuff.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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>I have the data books on the T9000 chip (one on the hardware, one on the
>instruction set), but they're nearly 500 pages each, so rather
>impractical to copy.
>
Well, he didn't really provide me with much information. I just sent him
another email indicating exactly what he has (i.e., software, boards, docs,
etc)
That way, I can easily see if I can get him up and running.
>IMS cards sound like INMOS, of course. I can't find the B013 in the data
>book, though. It's not an ethernet TRAM (B407 or B431, I think), and I
don't
>think it's part of the B300 ethernet interface system.
>
I never seen or even heard of an IMSB013 board. I figured it was a modified
B300 or ethernet tram.
>> transputer motherboard that looks like a TMB12 from Transtech. He also
>> has all the power supplies and the case.
>
>Probably a clone of something INMOS, or at least close to it. Is this a
>board that takes TRAMs, or what? What host bus does it use?
>
The TMB12 is a 12-slot tram board from transtech, similar to the B008 from
INMOS.
He said it looked like it but used C012 crossbar switches instead. I got to
see if I
can get more info from him.
Ram
I have the docs on that board and additional info on hidden things in the
setup for it. With a PAL change it can be a disk and tape controller as
well. If we can find some blanks I could make a copy for you.
Dan
>Thanks to everyone and some additional snooping the tape drive is indeed an
>Exabyte 8200 8MM SCSI tape drive. It is connected to a SCSI board labelled
> "TD Systems Inc"
> "VIK/QTO #2719"
>and a rom labelled:
> "Viking Q/B A3.1"
>(presumably QBus)
>
>Now to see what OSes support the board and if I can find docs ...
>--Chuck
>
>
Thanks to everyone and some additional snooping the tape drive is indeed an
Exabyte 8200 8MM SCSI tape drive. It is connected to a SCSI board labelled
"TD Systems Inc"
"VIK/QTO #2719"
and a rom labelled:
"Viking Q/B A3.1"
(presumably QBus)
Now to see what OSes support the board and if I can find docs ...
--Chuck
Hey,
Not all of us can find Altairs. So I had to brag about whatever it is that I
got. (I would prefer to brag about an Altair though)
How many of have the IBM PCjr Carrying Case?
Francois
>Francois,
>
> Whatever floats your boat!
>
> Joe
>
>At 09:25 AM 2/27/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>Fine,
>>I got a complete PCjr with pretty much all of the peripherals ever made
for
>>it, two joysticks, color monitor, a box of software and the carrying case.
>>So there!
>>Francois
>>
>>
I was feeling nostalgic tonight, so I went out to the loft in the shop
and dug around and found an old TI Silent 700 portable terminal that I
picked up somewhere along the way.
It needed a little bit of work...the paper-advance stepper had seized
up, but a little TLC there got it happy again, and the solenoid that
pulls the thermal printhead away from the paper when the paper advances
was way out of adjustment. After tinkering with it for a while, I
powered it up, and it seems to work great.
The machine is a "Model 745 Portable" with built-in acoustic coupler
cups at the rear of the machine. It works at 300 or 110 baud.
I actually dug out an old Western Electric phone (most of the new
telephones today have handsets that won't fit into an acoustic coupler
cup) and dialed up my Sun Unix system (which has a couple of 28.8 modems
hanging off it), and stuffed the phone handset into the cups, and viola...
a (upper case only) LOGIN: prompt! Heck, there was even a termcap for it!
The terminal works great...I loaded up the PDP-11 simulator, and loaded
the image for RT-11, and played around for a while. It brought back
some memories, no doubt! The acoustic coupler worked fantastic...no
glitches, except when the dog barked at a noise outside...and I got a few
@'s printed.
The first question for y'all is this: On the rear panel of the machine is
a DB-15 male connector...my assumption this is for hooking up a (RS232 or
current-loop) 'direct connection' to the terminal. I don't have any
documentation
for the machine, and am wondering if anyone out there might know the pinout
for this connector.
The next question is: Anyone know where I could find the thermal paper for
this
thing? I've got a good sized roll of it in the machine, and a spare roll
still
in the wrapper, but my guess is that as time goes on, it's only going to
become
more and more difficult to find. Anyone know if thermal FAX machine paper
in
roll form would work?
Happy retrocomputing,
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculators Web Pages
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7510
Hi,
I got this request from another transputer user. Apparently he has
a T9000 SuperCluster with no documentation & software. Parsys Ltd
is no longer in business, so does anyone have the so mentioned software
and documentation. Thanks.
Ram
PS: He also has a network interface card that is called IMSB013 and the
transputer motherboard that looks like a TMB12 from Transtech. He also
has all the power supplies and the case.
>I have one question...if you read the DEC/Compaq license
>agreement at: http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/license_terms.html
>you'll see that the agreement is only for one year.
>What happens after one year?
The license PAK's you get issued expires after one year. At this point,
you re-register with DECUS and they issue you a set of new PAK's.
--
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Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
Upon the date 03:21 AM 2/24/99 -0800, Sellam Ismail said something like:
>
>Did Hans Franke die or something? I haven't heard even a peep from that
>loquacious Bavarian in a while.
Yeah, it has been a bit quiet around here :)
I wonder if he's away from home on business. He works for Siemens Business
Services (www.sbs.de) in Munich and I think I recall that he manages
software development projects. SBS is a rather large systems integrator,
consultant and outsourcing provider, so he could be anywhere on a job.
Christine works there too in the Human Resources dept.
>
>Maybe John Zabolitzky has heard from him in the past few weeks?
>
>Christian, do you have his telephone number by any chance?
No, I haven't yet got his number although Beverly and I plan to _someday_
get back over there (depending on my job schedule whenever I find a new
job) and should get it anyway. I find there are seven phone listings for
Hans Franke in M?nchen and I don't know his exact address either. John Z.
could dig deeper over there I'm sure.
He'll reappear sometime I'm sure. I think this group is a bunch he can't
stay away from now :)
Regards, Chris
-- --
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Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/awa
Hi Stan,
----------
> From: ss(a)allegro.com
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist Program V2.0
> Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 11:20 AM
> I have one question...if you read the DEC/Compaq license
> agreement at: http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/license_terms.html
> you'll see that the agreement is only for one year.
>
> What happens after one year?
You sign up again ;-))
Same as in the old hobbyist license ...
cheers,
emanuel
How to Maintain the Nova (1969) - US$35
CS/20 Illustrated Parts Breakdown - 016-000681-00 - US$10
Nova 800 Technical Manual - 015-000004-02 & 016-000016-01 - US$20
Nova 830 Nova 840 Technical Manual - 015-000039-00 (some handwriting in it)
- US$15
Nova 840 Technical Manual - 015 000020-01 - US$20
Nova 1220 Technical Manual - 015-000011-04 - US$20
SuperNova Computer Technical Manual - 015-000008-01 - US$20
microNOVA Board Computer MBC/1 Data Manual - US$5
microNOVA Integrated Circuits Data Manual - US$5
An Introduction to Microproducts and the Micron Operating System - US$5
Microproducts Hardware Systems Reference - US$10
MP/OS Utilities Reference - US$8
MP/100 Computer System - US$8
Communications Interfaces and Character Device Controllers - US$5
Input/Output and Interfacing (Microproducts) - US$3
Sensor I/O - US$3
Disk and Diskette Drives - US$3
MPT/100 Computer System I/O Programmer's Reference - US$8
All items are in excellent condition unless otherwise noted. Prices do not
include shipping.
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Kevin Stumpf * Unusual systems * www.unusual.on.ca
+1.519.744.2900 * EST/EDT GMT - 5
Collector - Commercial Mainframes & Minicomputers from
the 50s, 60s, & 70s and control panels and consoles.
Author & Publisher - A Guide to Collecting Computers &
Computer Collectibles * ISBN 0-9684244-0-6
.
I'm curious, has anyone ever sat down and figured out how best to define a
database that would hold info on all thier Classic Computer documentation.
You know stuff like DEC Fiche, DEC Handbooks, manuals, catalogues,
brouchures, etc.?
Does anyone have any thoughts on what info should be captured? For
example, a randomly selected piece of Fiche yields the following info:
Colour: Brown Bar
Title: Mini Index 83-05
???: Hardware Documentation Library Index, Updateing and User Information
Part Number?: EP-0MINI-IX-05
Copyright: 1983
Fiche 1 of 1
Produced By: Digital
I can see needing a field that is something like machine type that would
be; PDP-11, PDP-8, VAX, Terminal, Printer, Tape Drive, Disk Drive, etc.
Properly defined this database could be used for more than just DEC Doc's,
which is my primary concern at the moment.
Zane
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Honeywell DPS6 & Level 6 GCOS 6 Mod 400 Programmer's Pocket Guide (CZ07-01)
- US$6
DEC PDP-9 & 9/L Instruction List, and PDP-9/L COMPACT Software System - US$6
DEC VAX-11 Programming Card - free
DEC MicroVMS Programming Pocket Reference - free
HP MPE III software pocket guide (April 1978) - still in binding, but well
used - US$3
HP MPE software pocket guide (3" by 5" binder) (April 1981) - has name
written on cover - US$6
HP MPE software pocket guide (3" by 5" binder) (April 1981) -- US$7
Intel 8080 Assembly Language Reference Card (March 1978), and 8" by 11"
MCS-8 Users Manual Rev 2 (November 1972) - US$17
All items are in excellent condition unless otherwise noted and prices
include ground shipment through Canada Post/US Mail.
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Kevin Stumpf * Unusual systems * www.unusual.on.ca
+1.519.744.2900 * EST/EDT GMT - 5
Collector - Commercial Mainframes & Minicomputers from
the 50s, 60s, & 70s and control panels and consoles.
Author & Publisher - A Guide to Collecting Computers &
Computer Collectibles * ISBN 0-9684244-0-6
.
<Does anyone here have any 30-pin SIMMs as often found in i386 computers
<that are more than 1 megabyte? I have 1-mb SIMMs but I've never seen
<bigger ones
You can still buy 30pin simms (256k, 1mb, 4mb) from JDR. the 4mb parts are
scarce and finding them for less than 10$ is hard. The 1mb parts are like
flies and they can be had for nearly nothing.
Allison
On Feb 28, 0:08, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> >Chuck wrote:
> >> On the tape drive in the BA123, it has a plain black front with a
button
> >> and two LEDs, one orange and one green. TK50? Where could I get media
for
> >> it? What does it look like?
> >
> >Maybe an Exabyte 8200 drive (8 mm)? But those aren't standard equipment
on
> >the uVAX II, and would require a SCSI controller.
>
> Yipes, looking over at my _Exabyte 8500_ it has a little black button
that
> has a green LED above an orange one directly to the right of the button.
> I'd guess the drive in question is a 8500, all the 8200's I've seen have
> beige faceplates. This makes sense seeing as how the MVII in question
has
> SCSI Hard Drives.
Both of my ExaByte 8200's have black faceplates. However, the LEDs are
side-by-side about 1.25" from the left side of the drive, and the button is
on the right.
When the drive is powered up, what do the LEDs do? If you press the
button, does the front open to allow you to insert a tape, like a miniature
VHS machine? Or does it just have an open slot to slide a cartridge into?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
<Which simply means, carry a screwdriver with you at all times :) In fact,
<PC clones sometimes have interesting software on them. I once saw a Compaq
<Portable that had a network card and had apparently been used in some sort
<of DEC network.
Yes, DEC sold cards and networking software to work with the VAX (DECNET)
systems. The software started as PCSA, later known as PATHWORKS and
TEAMLINKS. Since I have and use vaxen the software would be a find. The
net cards are standard eithernet.
Allison
Anyone in the UK (heck, here for that matter) want some VMS books?
Get in contact with this fellow.
-=-=- <snip> -=-=-
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:22:25 +0000, in vmsnet.pdp-11 you wrote:
>>From: "Tim. Bluck." <tb(a)oes-ee.demon.co.uk>
>>Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
>>Subject: VAX / VMS Manuals etc..
>>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:22:25 +0000
>>Organization: O.E.S. Electronics Engineers.
>>Message-ID: <3$oznCAhjR22Ewkx(a)planet-tharg.demon.co.uk>
>>NNTP-Posting-Host: planet-tharg.demon.co.uk
>>X-NNTP-Posting-Host: planet-tharg.demon.co.uk:212.229.58.50
>>X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 920296582 nnrp-02:3920 NO-IDENT planet-tharg.demon.co.uk:212.229.58.50
>>X-Complaints-To: abuse(a)demon.net
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>>Xref: news1.jps.net vmsnet.pdp-11:1130
>>
>>Hello.
>> I have A whole load of Dec vax / vms / basic / all-in-one.....
>>manuals, If anybody would like any of them, or if there's any interest
>>at all, I'll try to post a list of what I have..
>>
>>They're free, You just pay for the postage, or collect. I'm in North
>>Kent, England. And I can be reached at the following e-mail address.
>>
>>tb(a)planet-tharg.demon.co.uk
>>
>>Many thanks.
>>Tim.R.Bluck.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho,
Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com
Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com
"...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object,
event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."
As of 06:48, Monday, March 1 '99, we have TWO (2) shares left in the
Teledisk group buy.
I ask that those who may get the urge to get a couple of shares simply to
push things forward please hold off until, say, Wednesday afternoon. We may
get another couple of folks into the ring.
Thanks to all who have participated so far.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
>>I have absolutely no RT-11 documentation, although I have two systems
>>running it (both 11/23s). Does anyone have any online documentation on
>>the command language, configuration, device drivers, sysgen, etc? I'm
>>fumbling around without it.
>There is no on-line documentation... if there is, I'm sure Mentec
>would be a little bothered by it.
Actually, an "on-line" version of the RT-11 mini ref nearly made it into
the 5.7 release. Space considerations on the floppy distributions is
what axed the idea in the end. And all the manuals are "on-line" here,
just not publicly accessible :-(.
> There might be HELP available on
> the system, depending on the version and whether all the required
> files are still there...
If it's not there, then an web-accessible version of the same information
(albeit for RT-11 5.7, the Y2K compliant version) is available from
http://www.trailing-edge.com/~shoppa/rthelp/
or
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/rthelp/
The second reference will be faster to view, though slower to type in :-)
The above references have been available for well over a year and a half
now.
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
Gees, should I start signing myself "Tim Shoppa, Current RT-11 Developer,
Former Nuclear Astrophysicist?" ? :-)
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
Reply to him directly if you are interested.
-- Kevan
Collector of old computers: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Neil R. Temple <SMASafety(a)compuserve.com>
To: "collector(a)heydon.org" <collector(a)heydon.org>
Subject: Vintage Electronics
I am in the process of cleaning out my home office and realized that I have
1st generation office electronics that may be of interest to a collector.
I have a Sharp PC-7000 portable computer ( 2 - 5.25 " drives, no hard
drive!, LCD screen, detachable keyboard with case, original manuals and
disks) a portable fax machine (300 baud rotating drum Polaris Datafax 300
with carrying case, manuals and paper) and a personal copier (3M 051 copier
- 2 step thermal transfer process with paper) all very early 80s. Are you
interested or do you know another collector who may be?? I just can't bring
myself to junk these old friends.
I'm not looking for money for these items, only the cost of shipping.
I'm located in Northern Virginia, just south of Washington, DC. I may be
able to provide photos and/or additonal information. I really want to
move them out of my office, but can't bring myself to just throw them out.
>> Are there any adapter cards so 4 1mb simms can be used as a 4mb
>> 30 pin? I have seen those that can be used as a 72 pin.
Well, I came across a 72-pin adapter that took 30 pin SIMMS (I'm not
sure if you meant that or were talking about 72 pin adapters that took
72 pin SIMMS). I've never seen a 30 - to - 30 adapter around, although
I'd expect it to be possible to build one. I think SIMM-savers were only
around briefly during the couple of years when 30 pin SIMMS were going
out of fashion and 72 pin ones were coming in.
I remember working on some PCs (Unisys?) a few years ago which had all
their main memory on a full-length daughterboard card - there were
something like 16 30-pin SIMM sockets on there, although I think the
systems only recognised 256Kb SIMMS, not 1Mb's...
cheers,
Jules
>
>
This is an update for the rather large group buy of Teledisk I'm
coordinating.
As of 23:32, Sunday, 28-Feb-99, we have 47 people in on it and THREE
license shares remaining.
That's three shares left, folks.
More updates as I get them. Thanks to all those who have participated so far.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
I have a TRS-80 Model 16 I'd like to get rid of. Comes with:
* Base unit with two 8" floppy drives
* keyboard
* printer
* Twelve Meg Disk System
* Nice stack of manuals
I picked this up last summer, but haven't had the time to clean it up and
make it work. It powers up fine, but won't boot from the hard drive or
>from floppy. There's some minor screen burn-in.
I *really* don't want to ship this monster. I live in central Iowa, and
pickup is welcome. I'm also driving across the country at the end of the
month, so if you live between Iowa and Connecticut, we might be able to
work something out.
I'm not looking for much in exchange - some nominal amount of cash or
something small and interesting.
--
Ben Coakley http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley/ coakley(a)ac.grin.edu
CBEL: Xavier OH CMEL: Xavier
Since I have no maint docs, does anyone know what the error
message "System Status 02" mean during a Kaypro 10 boot?
The ROM signs on, CP/m signs on and then it hangs with that message.
ROM 1.9e CP/m V 2.2F
10M ready light is on, Floppy light is on, floppy does not access,
keyboard clicks but no effect. multiple resets return to the same state.
Cheerz and Thanks
John
OK, I'm stumped. I'm finally getting around to adding one of the 380Mb
ESDI HD's that I got to replace the 150Mb ones I've been using in my
PDP-11/73. So I check out "The Tech Page" and while they've got the drive,
they don't give any of the jumper settings. Does anyone happen to have the
settings for this drive?
Zane
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| and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |
Uh oh. Chris is rather furious with me.
I guess I really should have culled his phone number, but I really thought I
was doing EVERYONE a favour.
A
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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug <doug(a)blinkenlights.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Even More Stuff available
>On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Sellam Ismail wrote:
>
>> He just wants too much money for some very mundane stuff. He thinks
>> the shit is worth gold, but its not.
>
>Define "mundane." Can you get H11 software and docs at the 7-11? For
>somebody that *needs* the stuff, the prices are on the high side, but not
>completely absurd. It's simply impossible to ever say what something is
>"worth" unless it's a commodity. Don't even try. As you've seen, even
>prices on ebay vary wildly for the same stuff -- it all depends on who's
>looking on a given day. There's no formula. Rare doesn't necessarily
>mean valuable, and "mundane" doesn't necessarily mean cheap.
>
>> > How about $100 for H-11 doc 3-ring binders, and $140 for the paper
>> > tape media software.
>
>Speaking of paper tape, does anybody know where I can get fanfold paper
>tape holders? I've got one holder, and its great to organize the tapes,
>but I need a few more. Any good substitutes?
>
>-- Doug
>
>