- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by sipke＠wxs.nl

I've also found a RF72 drive. I first thought it was a RD54 but on closer inspection it turns out to be a RF72. What i've read is that it has a capacity of 1GB and needs an DSSI-controller Can any one tell me what DSSI is and if there exists a DSSI-controller for a uVAX II ? I Don't know if the beast is still in working order but I'm curious anyway. Sipke de Wal

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OT: Paging Bill Bradford

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Sorry about this, but I was corresponding with Bill about some items and haven't heard from him since the 21st....just wondering if he was having email difficulties or hardware problems.... Thanks. Paul Braun NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you. nerdware(a)laidbak.com www.laidbak.com/nerdware

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pdp11/70 / MK11

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com wrote: > >> Sure, get a MJ11 memory box (or, rather, 4 times as many MJ11's as you > >> had MK11's) :-). > > >Umm... sure. _That's_ an improvement. > > Hey, but it's real core! Ah! That _is_ an improvement. I only have core on my 11/20 (unrestored) and 11/05 (similarly unrestored). All of my working PDP-11s are MOS-based. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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The VAX stuff

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Since Anthony Clifton volunteered to drive to minneapolis and grab virtually al of the small VAX stuff that i mentioned yesterday, i'll just let him have the stuff (assuming thats ok with the professor who is disposing of the stuff). Thanks for your interest, and i'll keep posting if i find more stuff that i dont want or need. -Lawrence LeMay

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VAX 11/730 available

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote: > There is a VAX 11/730 available in Minneapolis. Obviously i'm not shipping > it, or having anything to do with it. if you want it, and can come tpick it > up in minneapolis, i can put you in contact with the person who has it. > > Otherwise, i will of course attempt to grab any useful boards and such > before it goes to the recyclers. At that time, i would then post what > is available to the list. Which style is it? One style has disks above and below the CPU (11/730-Z?), the other has the CPU in something that's more like a BA-11 with the TU-58 at the top of the rack. I have one of the ultra-cramped ones with the CPU in the middle. I don't have one with the CPU at the top. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 3 months

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pdp11/70 / MK11

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com wrote: > >Does anybody know if it's possible to run an 11/70 without the MK11 memory > >box ? > > Sure, get a MJ11 memory box (or, rather, 4 times as many MJ11's as you > had MK11's) :-). Umm... sure. _That's_ an improvement. > There are several other third-party memory boxes/cards available too. How many of these are floating around these days? Serious question, no smiley. I have two PDP-11/70s, both with, I assume, MK11 boxes and am interested in low-power alternatives for memory. > Out of curiosity, why can't you use your MK11's? Not enough power to > run them and the 11/70 at the same time? I had to take multiple 15A > circuits to run my 11/70 with MJ11 memory boxes. In _my_ case, power is the issue. I have a 60A circuit for the entire outbuilding that houses my larger stuff, none of which is powered on at the moment. I need to wire up a 30A Hubble Twist-n-lock outlet so I can plug in either an 11/750 or an 11/70 out there, but once I do, I'll be interested in firing up one of the beasts. Just so I'm not making a serious assumtion here, an MK11 is the high- density memory cabinet for the 11/70, right? What I have is an entire H960 rack with one BA-11 that houses 16 256K boards (mess-o-4116 DRAMs) and some incidental memory controller cards. Do I have what I think I have? -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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pdp11/70 / MK11

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>> Sure, get a MJ11 memory box (or, rather, 4 times as many MJ11's as you >> had MK11's) :-). >Umm... sure. _That's_ an improvement. Hey, but it's real core! >> There are several other third-party memory boxes/cards available too. >How many of these are floating around these days? Serious question, no >smiley. Probably pretty difficult to find. >> Out of curiosity, why can't you use your MK11's? Not enough power to >> run them and the 11/70 at the same time? I had to take multiple 15A >> circuits to run my 11/70 with MJ11 memory boxes. >Just so I'm not making a serious assumtion here, an MK11 is the high- >density memory cabinet for the 11/70, right? What I have is an entire >H960 rack with one BA-11 that houses 16 256K boards (mess-o-4116 DRAMs) >and some incidental memory controller cards. Do I have what I think >I have? The "original" MK11 goes up to 1 Mbyte in a box, according to my books. It certainly was common to see them upgraded in the field to the configuration that you have, though I don't know what the official DEC designation for the high-density version was. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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iOpener Update

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> > Package a) a sole device USD 499, > > Package b) the device and a 24 Month contract USD 99 + 24 x 20 > Or the common package C) box is part of the service and "rented". Cable > boxes especially encoded ones are that case here (usa). Yeah, but there are many places in the US where it is essentially illegal to hook your own cable descrambler to the cable line, not too much different than the old Bell System limits on third-party equipment hooked to phone lines. There are some attractions to cheap and uniform guaranteed service for all, but I don't think I want Internet access to become the monopoly that phone service used to be or cable service is today. It's bad enough with some ISP's threatening that they only support Microsoft Windows and that if you've got trouble accessing their service from any other OS you're out of luck. Actually DSL from some companies is already worse than that - you have to have a PCI-bus PC-clone running Windows to use their service, because the only interface device that will work requires that hardware configuration and the only drivers available are for MS-Windows. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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One of only 3 "enigma machine" stolen; A piece of ENIAC was up for auction.

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- John Lewczyk <jlewczyk(a)his.com> wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_698000/698804.stm > > An Enigma machine used by the Nazis to send coded messages during World War > Two, has been stolen from the code-cracking Station X at Bletchley Park, > Buckinghamshire. The machine, worth about £100,000, is one of only three in > the world. It was brought to the UK after the war. > > I bet it was somebody on this list who grabbed it! Fess up! ;-) The closest I've come is photographing the one at the Deutches Museum on my recent trip to visit Hans. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 3 months

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Watcom C

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

John, I have VAX C also if that would help... I'd offer you OS/32 C, but I don't think you have an Interdata/Perkin-Elmer/Concurrent, heh. Will J ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

26 years, 3 months

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Nuke Redmond!

by hofmanwb＠worldonline.nl

Richard, This must have been said a lot of times, but I say it anyway. I have been putting computers into factories and when you took a DEC PDP-11 you did not have to worry so much about next months software. About drivers you would have to write all over again. About being able to service a 5, 10, 15 year old or even older application, even in far away countries. Yes, you paid, but what about the cost of installing a new system every 3 or 4 years because hardware is no longer supported with the new release or the new version, or the hardware was phased out after months and spares no longer exist. This new hardware is ageing so fast that the Salvation Army is collecting it by the time you paid for it. It is marvelous for a lot of people, but keep it out of the factories. Wim ---------- > From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: !Re: Nuke Redmond! > Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:20 PM > > I really can't understand what all the hostility toward Microsoft is about. > If it weren't for the low prices resulting from the economy of scale, scale > which is enabled by the fact that Microsoft made computers simple enough to > use that the masses could and would use them. > > If you want to dog somebody, the go after DEC, (God be thanked that they're > gone!) with their antiquated technology always a generation behind everyone > else and with their ridiculous prices. > > If DEC had had their way you'd have to use a single flip=flop pair for which > they charged you 10^15 bucks per year and which broke twice a month so some > under-trained ignoramus could come around and pretend to fix the thing. > Then, if you had the unmitigated audacity to try to use some other vendor's > hardware or software, they'd raise hell and point down the wire if their > stuff didn't behave as claimed. > > The only point I've seen in this thread that makes any sense at all is the > one about Visual Basic. If your really want that 6-7 figure income, you'll > learn it. I know at least half a dozen fellows who have taken that up. > > Forget about the C++ or C or Delphi! These guys took 6 weeks to learn the > VB and now most of them have paid off their houses, cards, and credit cards > and vacation in Arruba in the winter and Alaska in the summer. at least > twice. The oldest of the guys I know doing this is 35 and worth over $10^7 > net. Five years ago, he was begging me for work. How many guys do you know > who have net savings of over a year's gross after only five years? That > certainly indicates VB is not just a joke. > > Dick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: Nuke Redmond! > > > > Huw Davies wrote: > > > I was at the Programming sectin of the local Computer Book store last > > > week, only to discover that "Programming" == Visual Basic, C on Windows > > > and that's about it. > > > > Don't you know, being able to write in Visual Basic is what all computer > > professionals aspire to! Rumor has it Windows 2000 was written in Visual > > Basic. > > > > > I wonder what I learnt at Uni should be called? I used to program in > Algol > > > (60 and 68), Pascal, BCPL, Simula-67 and BLISS-10... At least one of > them > > > is still current! > > > > OK, I give up. Which one? I'm not aware of Microsoft having any Windows > > software by those names, therefore they don't exist, and never did! > > > > Zane > > > > PS let me just say for the benefit of anyone new here, I'm joking folks! >

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!Re: Nuke Redmond!

by mbg＠world.std.com

>> their LAN boards incompatible with anyone else's. They also tweaked >> their protocols to weaken their own networking system so people >> wouldn't be tempted to mix and match. That comment is pure cow-flop... I don't know a single engineer at DEC (and now Compaq) who would ever have done this sort of thing... >IP was not the rule until years after DECnet phaseIII and when IP started >to become more wide spread there was PhaseIV and PHASEV decnet which was >routable, capable of doing IP over decnet and a lot of other tricks that >PCs needed. PCs under winders were doing lanman then. Even so, much of the Internet network software has its roots on DEC hardware... even if DEC wasn't doing it at the time... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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PDP 8/L power supply docs?

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

I'm told that the power supply in the 8/L i just acquired has a problem with ripple in the 5 volt output, and thus it had started to crash occasionally. I'm not sure how often it crashed, as they ran the thing constantly, so their idea of a problem crashing might be different from mine ;) Still, if its still possible to obtain the correct capacitors, and it looks like we're talking about coca-cola can sized capacitors, it would make sense to replace them. So, i'd like to find a copy of the schematic for the power supply if anyone has it. -Lawrence LeMay PS: Still looking for the power cable, so i havent turned it on yet...

26 years, 3 months

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PDP 8/L power supply docs?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

-----Original Message----- From: Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 5:53 PM Subject: PDP 8/L power supply docs? >I'm told that the power supply in the 8/L i just acquired has a problem >with ripple in the 5 volt output, and thus it had started to crash >occasionally. I'm not sure how often it crashed, as they ran the thing >constantly, so their idea of a problem crashing might be different from >mine ;) > >Still, if its still possible to obtain the correct capacitors, and it >looks like we're talking about coca-cola can sized capacitors, it would >make sense to replace them. So, i'd like to find a copy of the schematic >for the power supply if anyone has it. Caps and other parts can be had for it. You may end up paying a few bucks for them but hey, their good for 20-30 years. Check Highgate for prints. Allison

26 years, 3 months

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VAX stuff available

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

I just recieved this message from a co-worker of the professor who is giving me some pdp8/pdp11 stuff. If there is some small VAX stuff that you're looking for, let me know and i'l see if he has it and if i can get it. otherwise, if you want something big you come get it yourself, the stuff is in minneapolis. by small stuff, i mean like a few memory or expansion interface boards, etc. ------------------ John Broadhurst mentioned you were interested in some of his old PDP-11 equipment from the Tandem Lab. Thought I'd check, while I'm cleaning up, if you have any interest in VAX equipment:-) John is still the major repository, but I have a box of VMS docs I am getting ready to pitch out. Some dates back to VMS v4, and there is also some media ("Desktop VMS", Online docs, etc) on CD. We also have some hardware we are (ahem) unlikely to need again: VAXstation 2000s, some newer VAXstations (3100-era), a historic RRD-40 CD drive, etc. ------------------ -Lawrence LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

26 years, 3 months

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OT: TFT interface

by bill＠chipware.com

Sorry for the off-topic post, but this is the best technical resource there is. Anyway, my company recently had an IBM Thinkpad 770 go dead. It was sent for repair and was finally deemed "cheeper to replace than repair". My office is the official company electronics/computer dumpster, so it ended up here. The note stuck to it by the repair place says "dead motherboard". I have dissassembled it and now have a nice 15" TFT panel. Now to the question: What is the interface to this thing? There are 14 wires going into it. Two are pretty obviously power for the backlight. They are at the bottom of the panel and were attached next to the slide pot that controlled the display brightness. The other 12 are attached to a connector in about the center of the panel. The IBM part number is 09J0940. Thanks

26 years, 3 months

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pdp11/70 / MK11

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Does anybody know if it's possible to run an 11/70 without the MK11 memory >box ? Sure, get a MJ11 memory box (or, rather, 4 times as many MJ11's as you had MK11's) :-). >I know it can be done with the PEP "update", There are several other third-party memory boxes/cards available too. > but I was wondering if there >is another way, possibly involving standard UNIBUS memory. I do believe that there's an option to map some of the memory space on the Unibus into memory space. It probably doesn't work correctly at all if you're using the Massbus slots for I/O, though, and you certainly can't get above 124 kWords doing this. Out of curiosity, why can't you use your MK11's? Not enough power to run them and the 11/70 at the same time? I had to take multiple 15A circuits to run my 11/70 with MJ11 memory boxes. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years, 3 months

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pdp11/70 / MK11

by blergh＠dds.nl

Does anybody know if it's possible to run an 11/70 without the MK11 memory box ? I know it can be done with the PEP "update", but I was wondering if there is another way, possibly involving standard UNIBUS memory. Thanks, Erik.

26 years, 3 months

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iOpener Update

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>It hurts my head trying to understand this. How the cable companies get >their little whims written into law is beyond me. I mean anything's silly >if you look close enough -- suppose my TV happens to be switchable to accept >a video signal of either polarity (or whatever it is), how is it that that >makes me a *criminal*? Watch out - just tuning through certain high-numbered UHF channels is now illegal, since the cellphone companies grabbed those frequencies and then a few years later convinced congress that it's illegal for the general public to tune in to those frequencies. (As a practical matter, trying to listen to cellphone conversations with an old TV is really, really tough, though you do get to hear bits and pieces. Much better are the non-crippled scanners you can buy in Canada and many other countries.) -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years, 3 months

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iOpener Update

by Anthony.Eros＠compaq.com

I'm getting closer! When I see the splash screen, I hit TAB and saw the following Award BIOS startup screen: Award Modular BIOS V4.51PG Copyright (C) 1984-99, Award Software, Inc. (IPS_TRI) EVALUATION ROM - NOT FOR SALE IDT WinChip C6 CPU at 200MHz Memory Test : 30720 + 2048K shared memory Award Plug and Play BIOS Extension v1.0A Copyright (C) 1999, Award Software, Inc. Suggested SDRAM CAS Latency Time is " 2 " Detecting IDE Primary Master ... None Detecting IDE Primary Slave ... SunDisk SDTB-128 Your i-opener is undergoing a necessary update. This may take 30 minutes or more. If for some reason the service is not working correctly within an hour, please contact Technical Support at 1-800-298-9525 to report the problem. Press DEL to enter SETUP 10/01/1999-VP4-686-IPC_VIAC-00 When I hit CTRL-ALT-HOME, I get a "login:" prompt. The HOME,4 combo doesn't get me a root prompt. So close, and yet so far!! :-) -- Tony > ---------- > From: John Wilson[SMTP:wilson@dbit.dbit.com] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 12:35 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: iOpener Update > > On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 04:23:10PM -0500, Eros, Anthony wrote: > > Has anyone else seen this? The only thing I get when I power up my > iOpener > > is a screen that says "Welcome! i-opener Out of the box. In the > outlets. On > > the counter. Nothin' but 'Net!" Nothing else. No other screens, or > startup > > messages. Control-alt-home, or home-4 do nothing. > > Press TAB as soon as you see this screen. It will switch to text mode > and give you the usual Award BIOS startup screen. It will say press Del > for setup, that's wrong, you need Ctrl/Alt/Esc, so you'll need to put on a > keyboard that has an Esc key. > > John Wilson > D Bit >

26 years, 3 months

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!Re: Nuke Redmond!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

"What He Said." I was going to respond to Richard's email but you've said it all here, Zane. I stand in agreement. -Dave McGuire On April 5, healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote: > > I really can't understand what all the hostility toward Microsoft is about. > > If it weren't for the low prices resulting from the economy of scale, scale > > which is enabled by the fact that Microsoft made computers simple enough to > > use that the masses could and would use them. > > Well, in my case it started when I discovered that the copy of Visual Basic > I bought wouldn't run under OS/2. This is DESPITE the fact that the box and > manuals said it would! > > Then there is the issue of *stability*. > > Then there is the issue of *illegal* business practices. > > Then there is that question of innovation. > > Someone mind explaining why if I install software on a Microsoft system or > make *very* minor changes I've got the reboot the @*& #$)@ thing?!?! > > I could go on and on, but I think you get the picture. > > > If you want to dog somebody, the go after DEC, (God be thanked that they're > > gone!) with their antiquated technology always a generation behind everyone > > else and with their ridiculous prices. > > Um, you do know that's flame bait in this group, and Microslop roasting is a > regular hobby here? Personally I'll willingly pay more if it means I've got > stability. > > > The only point I've seen in this thread that makes any sense at all is the > > one about Visual Basic. If your really want that 6-7 figure income, you'll > > learn it. I know at least half a dozen fellows who have taken that up. > > You know, I can't decide if that's a sad comment on the computer industry, > or the United States. > > Zane

26 years, 3 months

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iOpener Update

by Anthony.Eros＠compaq.com

Has anyone else seen this? The only thing I get when I power up my iOpener is a screen that says "Welcome! i-opener Out of the box. In the outlets. On the counter. Nothin' but 'Net!" Nothing else. No other screens, or startup messages. Control-alt-home, or home-4 do nothing. Any suggestions? -- Tony > ---------- > From: ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk[SMTP:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:53 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: iOpener Update > > > > > > Also apparently they've put in a really ugly "Terms of Sale". > > > > Particularly ugly - if you don't use their $21.95 month net access > > service for their required period of time, they'll charge you $499. > > If they don't have your credit card number, they'll send you a bill. > > What if you buy one in a shop, and pay cash for it? Or do they insist on > being told your name and address? > > -tony >

26 years, 3 months

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iOpener Update

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>I just left CC and they would not sell me the demo unit saying that had to >RETURN ALL the old units they had for the new model. Makes me think they >had some ones in stock. And they will not take orders for the new model >right now. SUCKS I would have faced them down using BAIT and SWITCH as the cause. Which is what is being done. I plan to drop in on CC friday after work likely to cancle as things is getting to be more of a project if it progresses along the current path. I have other projects I need tp put the time to. Unlike some I paid in full, so I feel I can demand product under conditions at time of sale, 3/13! All in all a big pain. Allison

26 years, 3 months

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I need some PDP-11 RT11 archiving software

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>time to write anything. I will have some people come over and feed in the >paper tape this weekend. While I won't be able to archive most of it, I do >hope to at least read in most of the source code on paper tape. (I have over >310 PDP-1 paper tapes alone). So how did the archiving go? Find any notable gems you're dying to tell us about? -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years, 3 months

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I need some PDP-11 RT11 archiving software

by dylanb＠sympatico.ca

-----Original Message----- From: CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com <CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:15 PM Subject: RE: I need some PDP-11 RT11 archiving software >>time to write anything. I will have some people come over and feed in the >>paper tape this weekend. While I won't be able to archive most of it, I do >>hope to at least read in most of the source code on paper tape. (I have over >>310 PDP-1 paper tapes alone). > >So how did the archiving go? Like shit. <pardon the expression> > Find any notable gems you're dying to tell >us about? > I was amazed with just how much paper tape software I had (not including dectapes,disks, etc..). I had source code to every language and package ever put out for the PDP-1. As for the PDP-11, I saved source code to the first RSX-11 version, DOS/Batch, and paper tape operating system. There was over 400 blue trays of paper tape (packed) for the PDP-1,4,5,8,9,11,... I have been working 15 hour days with 3 others over the past 13 days just to pack the collection and test each minicomputer and peripheral. I am going out to the *new* home of my collection in a couple of months and will archive most of the PDP-1 and the rest of the 11 software there. It's in a *much* better home as this buyer has the capital to keep this collection running well into the next millenium. I backed up some of the PDP-1 software (about 10 tapes) but concentrated on the PDP-8/11 software as private collectors want that kind of software installed when I sell a mini. I am looking forward to heading out to the west coast. I *really* wanted to archive Fortran Source code for the PDP-1 but ran out of time and couldn't hold up shippers. I do feel kind of down though... I *really* liked my PDP-8/S minicomputers but they are going to a better home... As for documentation, I saved a copy of the Classic-8 maintenance manual (I had 3). I understand quite a few people are looking for it... I will scan it in next week when things quiet down. {many other "training manuals/prints" were copied} If there are still licensing issues over RSX-11B,C and others (licensing 30 year old software?? - crazy!) then I can email it to you or others next week. P.S. I did save the source code to PDP-1 DECUS "7A" - Expensive Typewriter. Next week I wil be packing some wishlist items, other promised pieces and *finally* ship them out. john >-- > Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com > Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ > 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 > Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927 >

26 years, 3 months

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iOpener Update

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> Also apparently they've put in a really ugly "Terms of Sale". Particularly ugly - if you don't use their $21.95 month net access service for their required period of time, they'll charge you $499. If they don't have your credit card number, they'll send you a bill. See https://secure.netpliance.com/store/terms_sale.asp (Why you need a security-enabled browser to look at their terms and conditions, I don't know. But at the bottom of that page they encourage you to e-mail them with the name and address of anyone who has violated their policies by doing as much as disassembling or modifying the device.) Makes $99 sound like not so much of a bargain anymore, huh? -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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Additional uVAXII question

by sipke＠wxs.nl

My uVAX may have had some 4 or 8port serial card that was removed. The RS232 connectors are still present on the back. Now in the cardcage it seems a card is missing. Would that be a problem ? (bus continuity) this is the current situation Slot ... 6 5 4 3 2 1 +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+ (X) | M | M | M | M | M | 7555 7516 7609 7609 7606 | DI- | M | (X) | | | | LOG 7546 +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+ The first 3 cards are Quad but the bottom position of slot 4 is empty (X) as is the top slot 6 Would that be ok ? Sipke

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DEC hardware questions

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote: > Can RK05's from a PDP11 system be used on a PDP8? Do i need to find > special disk cartridges? 16-bit machines (PDP-11) use 12 sector cartridges. 12-bit machines (PDP-8) use 16-sector cartridges. The difference is in how many saw cuts are made in the aluminum rim on the bottom. While it is *theoretically* possible to plug the wrong cuts and make new ones in the correct place, I am not aware of anyone attempting this, let alone succeeding. I myself have a quantity of 12-sector packs and 1 16-sector pack (formatted for an RK05F) (and no RK8E) -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 3 months

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MAI BASIC 4

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

Anyone have a terminal (serial?) card for an MAI BASIC 4 to help that guy? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:39:50 CLT From: Luis Alejandro Peña Ramirez <douglas772(a)hotmail.com> Gentlemen: We are a small store; SOLARI Y CIA. LTDA. Located in pais of CHILE, city of ARICA, My problem is the following one; We have a computer MAI BASIC FOUR, with the following ones: Characteristic: MAI BASIC FOUR 7.2 R Model 1800 Unix Propietari NO Standard UNIX operating system (BOSS/IX) In this machine there is a program build in language Business BASIC, the operating system BOSS/IX that have the advantages of UNIX. And the Business applications and associated data files The main problem is in which the card multi port that it connects the terminals this card I burn myself due to a blow of current. Good we needed to acquire with extreme urgency this card, because we needed to continue operating with the terminals. The characteristics of the card are the following ones: CARD: Multi Port to 8 terminal ISA 16 bits Conectors : RJ I need information Cost of the card, Cost of send, and more information about purchase of hardware of MAI BASIC FOUR. (CHIP of serial number of machine) I wait for a very quick answer, thank you very much by from now on. Luis Peña Rámirez Ingenier of Computation and informatic Email: douglas772(a)hotmail.com miguelarias66(a)latinmail.com Adreess: ARICA, CHILE: 21 de MAYO #221 Phone: (056)09-8360545 (056)(052)225020 P.D.: The information send me in Spanish, please. (If us do). If you don`t help me. Need information the other place (e-mail, HTTP, phone) where help me, with this hardware. En Español: Señores WAL ENTER: Nosotros somos una pequeña tienda; SOLARI Y CIA. LTDA. Ubicada en el pais de CHILE, ciudad de ARICA, Mi problema es el siguiente; Tenemos un computador MAI BASIC FOUR, con las siguientes : Caracteristicas: MAI BASIC FOUR 7.2 R Model 1800 Unix Propietari NO Standard UNIX operating system (BOSS/IX) En esta maquina hay un programa implentado en lenguaje Business BASIC, el sistema Operativo BOSS/IX que reune las ventajas de Unix. El problema principal radica en que la tarjeta multi puerta que conecta los terminales, esta tarjeta se quemo debido a un golpe de corriente. Bueno necesitamos adquirir con suma urgencia esta tarjeta, debido a que necesitamos seguir operando con los terminales. Las caracteristicas de la tarjeta son las siguientes: Multi Port to 8 terminal ISA 16 bits Conectors : RJ Necesito información de Costo de la tarjeta, Costo de envio, y más información acerca de compra de hardware de MAI BASIC FOUR. (Chip de número de serie del equipo) Espero una muy pronta respuesta, muchas gracias por desde ahora. Luis Peña Rámirez Ingeniero en Computacion e informatica Email: douglas772(a)hotmail.com miguelarias66(a)latinmail.com direccion: ARICA, CHILE: 21 de MAYO #221 telefono: (056)09-8360545 (056)(052)225020 P.D.: La información por favor enviemela en Español. (Si se puede). Si no pueden ayudarme le agradeceria que me dieran informacion de otro lugar donde pueda acudir para comprar este hardware(e-mail, HTTP, telefono).

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Someone needs WordPerfect 5.1

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

Your office software vendor has been found guilty of monopolistic business practices, so... "You must ask yourself 'What would Jesus do?'" He'd ditch MS-Office and boot up WordPerfect, of course! (Sorry - couldn't resist... So the rumor that Bill Gates is the Second Coming isn't true?) --- > >Jesus needs WordPerfect 5.1. Can you help him out? Please reply to Jesus >directly. > Bill Richman http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf microcomputer simulator!)

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Someone needs WordPerfect 5.1

by vcf＠siconic.com

Jesus needs WordPerfect 5.1. Can you help him out? Please reply to Jesus directly. Reply-to: jdiaz(a)turbo.kean.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:12:05 -0400 (EDT) From: DIAZ <jdiaz(a)turbo.kean.edu> To: vcf(a)vintage.org Subject: A QUESTION ABOUT VCF I cannot be present at the Festival, yet I wonder if I can somehow find out if someone has, and wants to sell, WordPerfect 5.1. Though I will carefully test and screen for viruses any such software, my intuition tells me your source is far more reliable than trying to get it through e-bay. Looking forward to your response. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus A. Diaz Philosophy Department Kean University Union, NJ 07083 USA (908) 527-2311 (voice) / (908) 289-1397 (fax) WWW = http://www.kean.edu (Kean University's Home Page) Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF Europe: April 29th & 30th, Munich, Germany VCF Los Angeles: Summer 2000 (*TENTATIVE*) VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

26 years, 3 months

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Borland C++ 5.5 compiler released for free

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I dont know if this is going to interest anyone, but Borland has released its ANSI C++ compiler for free. Check it out at http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/cppc55steps.html Ram

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DEC hardware questions

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

A RP03 i'm told is a multi-platter drive for a PDP11. Does anyone know anything else about it? How much storage are we talking about, compared to an RK05? Can RK05's from a PDP11 system be used on a PDP8? Do i need to find special disk cartridges? -Lawrence LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

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Santee swap serendipity

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

Tony Duell wrote: > The ZX81 uses a 3.5mm jack socket (what you call a 'phone socket' across > the Pond) for the power input. The tip is +ve and the sleeve is -ve. Actually, in the States a "phone plug" or "phone jack" is 1/4" -- the kind used in ancient telephone switchboards, hence the name. To make it more interesting we also have "phono" (aka RCA) jacks and plugs, used for connecting phonographs and their amplifiers. Do these connectors have different names on your side? Glen 0/0

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IBM System/38 Info Needed

by mrdos＠swbell.net

I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the IBM System/38, or had any software or books for it. Do y'all think it is collectable? Thanks, Owen

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Re: OT Paging for François

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

I'm still here Changed ISP Sorry New e-mail: fauradon(a)mn.mediaone.net new web: http://people.mn.mediaone.net/fauradon -----Original Message----- From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: OT Paging for Fran?ois >Sorry for using this medium - just I got no other idea >left to contact him. > >Does anybody have a valid mail address, or other mean >of contact for Francois ? >Las known mail address: fauradon(a)pclink.com >His web pages at http://www.pclink.com/fauradon/ >are still accessible. > >Thank you >Hans > >-- >VCF Europa am 29./30. April 2000 in Muenchen >http://www.vintage.org/vcfe >http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe

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Unknown DEC stuff and a few unknown ICs

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hi, I can't figure out what the heck these two Intersil chips are; one is a 6003 and the other is an 5110. Also, I have these qbus boards from Sky Computer that I have no clue what they are; they're all quad height (assuming that means they have four connectors). They are Skywar-Q-A-03, Skywar-Q-B-03, and Skydpmem-Q-02. Will J ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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OT: Source of IDE Drives for Napster Hackers

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

Just got this in my mailbox...www.hitechcafe.com has 540meg IDE drives for laptops at $25 a piece. Cheers, Aaron

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some DEC finds

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>There is a rack of mystery DEC equipment, lots of green G series >boards, etc. At the top of the rack is an array of lights, and >I found a plastic panel that obviously was supposed to be over those >lights. I've taken a photo of the panel, hopefully someone can >identify it for me. Other stuff in the rack is on wirewrap backplanes, >and the flip chips are plugged in from the bottom, i'm guessing this >stuff goes with the 8/L cpu. http://www-users.itlabs.umn.edu/~lemay/panel.jpg Seeing as how there's 7 lights for track address bits on the panel (implying up to 128 tracks) and there's a big sticker saying "DF:" on the bottom, I'm going to hazard a guess that this is a status panel for a RF08 or RF11 disk controller. I'm leaning towards RF11, as the data width on the panel appears to be 16 bits. (Maybe the same panel was used on both the RF11 and RF08... I dunno.) The RF11 runs the RS11 fixed-head disk, 128 cylinders * 8 blocks per cylinder for 1024 512-byte blocks in total. The capacity in 12-bit-word mode is likely different. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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some DEC finds

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

I just picked up a DEC PDP-8/L cpu unit, someone had already taken it out of the rack for me. How can i determine if I have a complete cpu? most of the cards are present, and there are 3 cables coming from the unit, each with a centronics connector at the end. There is a rack of mystery DEC equipment, lots of green G series boards, etc. At the top of the rack is an array of lights, and I found a plastic panel that obviously was supposed to be over those lights. I've taken a photo of the panel, hopefully someone can identify it for me. Other stuff in the rack is on wirewrap backplanes, and the flip chips are plugged in from the bottom, i'm guessing this stuff goes with the 8/L cpu. http://www-users.itlabs.umn.edu/~lemay/panel.jpg We also grabbed the top half of a teletype 33 ASR for parts, and plan to return with a truck tomorrow for a complete Teletype 33 ASR. There is still a complete PDP 11/20 rack system, with dectape, decpack, and possibly other stuff in addition to the cpu unit itself. My friend will try to rescue this, if we can borrow a pickup truck. Other stuff out on the loading dock includes a DecScope, 2 DecWriter II, 1 DecWriter III, 1 Decprinter. I've contacted the person who is discarding this stuff, to see if anything else is available, such as manuals or dectape. By the way, i'm not planning to take the printers I just mentioned, I just dont have much storage space. Since this is the first 8/L system I've seen in person, any help in determining if i have a complete system would be appreciated. Also, what are those 3 centronix connectors for (connections to expansion units in that other rack maybe?) and how can I connect a terminal or something to make this thing a bit more usable? -Lawrence LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

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Archives are now online

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

Hi all, I spent my lunch break finishing the configuration for the mailing list archives. Due to underwhelming popular vote, the email addresses of posters have been xxx'd out; if you really want your email address to appear with your messages in the archive, you'll have to append it to your sig. The URL to access the archives, at this moment, is: http://www.retrobytes.org/classiccmp/ For the moment, it is a pretty plain setup. The archive is split into separate pages of 75 messages each (my only complaint with other archives: it takes *way* too long to load a 500k archive list every time!) and can be viewed as sorted by date (default page), thread, and author. Soon enough, I hope to add a search engine and better browsing manager...though I don't know when I'll get the time. If anone on the list is a Glimpse expert and has a little time, I'd be happy to set you up a login account... :) Enjoy! Aaron

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Mailing list archives? Questions...

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

Hi all, I know that Kevan posted that he's working on getting his archives back up, but a question in the meantime... I've been thinking of making a new archive of the list available at retrobytes.org (starting with this month); any comments/concerns/advice? Do I have to get anyone's explicit permission to do this? Lastly, assuming I go through with this, would people prefer that I set Mhonarc to obfuscate everyone's email addresses? The benefit, of course, is that a spammer's address crawler couldn't pick up everyone's addresses >from the page like they do on newsgroups; the drawback is that people wouldn't be able to directly contact the authors. If the general feeling is that you'd rather the addresses be hidden, perhaps I could create two archives...one private for classiccmp list members to search the archives *with* addresses, and one public with the obfuscated addresses. As usual, any imput at all would be appreciated. Cheers, Aaron

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One of only 3 "enigma machine" stolen; A piece of ENIAC was u p for auction.

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

Interestingly enough, I ran across an Enigma machine at a hamfest in MD. last year. The gentleman had it on a table amidst a bunch of WWII radio gear. I did a doubletake when I saw it (I only recognized it because I've seen the one in the Smithsonian). It was missing the encoder wheels, and I seem to remember that he wanted somewhere around $7K for it. I'm pretty certain he didn't sell it, and I haven't seen it at any hamfests since, but perhaps he'll have it there again this year. -al- > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Franke [mailto:Hans.Franke@mch20.sbs.de] > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 4:12 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: One of only 3 "enigma machine" stolen; A piece > of ENIAC was > up for auction. > > > > > >I see it as another sign of how serious our hobby is > becoming. Its valued > > >at 100,000 pounds! I wonder what it will fetch on ebay? ;-) > > > Also sounds a bit like an April Foolsday Prank (Saturday > was the day of the > > crime) > > > Hmmm. If ever on sale at Ebay be prepared to fork out > another 100K pounds > > for the shipping ! > > Why ? Do they include an U-Boot ? > > ;) > Hans > > -- > VCF Europa am 29./30. April 2000 in Muenchen > http://www.vintage.org/vcfe > http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe >

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Dayton Computerfest finds

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > --- Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> wrote: > > >> > > So... does anyone out there have a Mac "null-modem" cable... > > > > How is this cable different fromAAAIcAAACIAAAAiQAA > > AIoAAACLAAAAjAAAAI0AAACOAAAAjwAAAJAAAACRAAAAkgAAAJMAAACUAAAA > > lQAAAJYAAACXAAAAmAAAAJkAAACaAAAAmwAAAJwAAACdAAAAngAAAJ8AAACg > > AAAAoQAAAKIAAACjAAAApAAAAKUAAACmAAAAp > > Say what?!? > > -ethan I don't know why this resurfaced (I didn't resend it myself), but since it did, I can provide two follow-up comments on it... 1) The source of the garbage appears to be Yahoo Mail! corrupting random messages in my inboxes. As stuff moves in, I sort it into several categories. I'll read a message one minute, then when new stuff comes in, a formerly legible message garbles in the middle and the end is a message that I had previously deleted. I am now in the process of emptying all of my archival messages from Yahoo before I contact their tech support, lest their "helpful" and "qualified" individuals wipe my mailboxes from the face of the earth in an attempt to root out the cause of the corruption. 2) I did finally get a working cable for my QuickTake 150 and MacIIci. Thanks to all who provided information and advice. It's not a great camera, but for $35, it's a camera I've used before and it's better than nothing. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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iOpener

by lsommo＠hotmail.com

This now appears when you begin a purchase transaction on the Netpliance web site. By purchasing the i-opener you are agreeing to use the i-opener Internet service. The fee is $21.95 a month and will be billed to your credit card approximately 2 days after the i-opener is shipped to you. i-opener Internet appliances shipped after March 20, 2000 can no longer be reconfigured in the manner described in recent reports. Modification of the i-opener in any way is in violation of our terms and conditions. >From: Brian Roth <broth(a)heathers.stdio.com> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: iOpener >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:29:30 -0500 > >Its possible that they could goo the area with epoxy which will make it >very >difficult but not impossible to add the drive. I have seen other manu's do >this as a quick fix until a more permanant solution can be >engineered.(remember Videocipher?) > >I still have one ordered hoping the mod will still be possible. > >Brian. > >Megan wrote: > > > >OK, I got a 6.4 GB laptop drive hooked up and right now the iOpener is > > >running DOS/BATCH V10-01A on an emulated PDP-11/40+RK05 system. I love > > >it!!! > > > > >It's going to take some real butchery to get the case closed, but I >guess > > >that's to be expected. The low-profile 3M connector barely fit under >the > > >CPU heat sink w/o needing it to be clearanced, that was nice. > > > > >BTW the CPU seems to be 200 MHz, not 180 MHz. But it still gets only > > >about 80 BogoMIPS, pretty slow. > > > > I heard last night that Netpliance is making modifications so that >people > > can no longer do this... they are apparently losing a LOT of money >selling > > the machines, having expected to recoup it in the service charges... > > > > Can someone confirm this... and maybe confirm the change that they > > have done (which I understand is simply removal of the cable connector > > for the drive). > > > > Oh, and supposedly back-ordered units will have the mod... > > > > Megan Gentry > > Former RT-11 Developer > > > > +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ > > | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | > > | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | > > | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | > > | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | > > | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | > > | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | > > +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Research Machines Link 480Z )380Z ^IEEE)

by PeksaDO＠Cardiff.ac.uk

>> Please feel free to say 'impossible' - my knowledge of electronics > I was rather covering my own back when some clueful person points > out that it is possible to make a GPIB interface using those chips > (althoughI still can't see how ;-)) >> at this level is minimal. > I wasn't trying to 'get at you' and I apologise if I gave that > impression. I didn't think you were 'getting at me'; looking back I should have put a few :-) :-) in my reply! > I am firstly trying to find out what all the options for the 380Z > really were -- my machine is rather cut down, and contains : > Z80 CPU (with 32K RAM) > 40 column VDU > RAM expansion (32K) > Hires graphics > Floppy controller > Terminator I'm going to have to dig my other 380Z out and record what's in that. > Secondly I wanted to warn you against connected PET or HP > peripherals here, as the results would probably not be good for > either the 380Z or the peripheral. I do have the standard PET IEEE peripherals, thanks for the warning. > It would be interesting to figure out just what it does. Feel like > a morning with the TTL databook and a continuity tester? :-). When I get the time, I'll do this. I also thought I could scan or photograph/scan the board and e-mail you a tiff/jpeg Doug.

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One of only 3 "enigma machine" stolen; A piece of ENIAC was up forauction.

by mrdos＠swbell.net

Just out of curiosity, is there still a chance of getting that piece of the ENIAC? -----Original Message----- From: John Lewczyk <jlewczyk(a)his.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: One of only 3 "enigma machine" stolen; A piece of ENIAC was up forauction. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_698000/698804.stm An Enigma machine used by the Nazis to send coded messages during World War Two, has been stolen from the code-cracking Station X at Bletchley Park, Buckinghamshire. The machine, worth about ?100,000, is one of only three in the world. It was brought to the UK after the war. I bet it was somebody on this list who grabbed it! Fess up! ;-) I see it as another sign of how serious our hobby is becoming. Its valued at 100,000 pounds! I wonder what it will fetch on ebay? ;-) On the other hand, a piece of ENIAC from Eckert's estate was up for auction this weekend in Philadelphia (http://skinner.lycos.com/Scripts/ListingInfo.asp?LotNo=10083515&SiteCatNo=8 1397). Opening bid was $4K, they expected it to go to $8-$12K US. They didn't get a nibble! Go figure! I was rather tempted, but don't have that deep pockets.

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Mailing list archives? Questions...

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 2, 13:32, Aaron Christopher Finney wrote: > I've been thinking of making a new archive of the list available at > retrobytes.org (starting with this month); any comments/concerns/advice? I think that's a good idea. I miss the archive. > Lastly, assuming I go through with this, would people prefer that I set > Mhonarc to obfuscate everyone's email addresses? I'd prefer mine to be obscured in some way, though I don't mind if it's not completely obliterated. If it prevents the more simplistic address-gatherers from reading it, that would be sufficient as far as I'm concerned. > perhaps I could create two archives...one private for classiccmp list > members to search the archives *with* addresses, and one public with the > obfuscated addresses. Sounds like a lot of extra storage :-) I'd just go for one, possibly with munged addresses. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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RC-25 power

by oliv555＠arrl.net

Just picked up one of these, was a pull from a 11/725 and has a 4-pin plastic in-line plug in the back. Don't have any docs for this. Can anyone provide the pinouts for this power plug ? ------- | O |< | O | | O | | O | ------- Thanks ............. Nick

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Santee swap serendipity

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>So what do you call the plug on a 'walkman' headphone? We'd call it a 3 >pole (or 'stereo') 3.5mm jack plug. Here when it's not called 3.5mm, it's called 1/8th inch. And the 2.5mm version is 3/32 inch. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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